Innsbruck Screenshots (1.89MB - dialup warning)

[EHM-1617 Iain]

Here is my familiarisation flight in Innsbruck:

RTT1J RWY08 departure and hold at RTT NDB at 9500'.
DCT KTI NDB 13000' and then full LLZDME West approach, circling for RWY08 (the most difficult procedure at Innsbruck).

Hope you like them, comments welcome.

Engines Started!


Ready for takeoff!


Liftoff!


In the RTT hold, 9500'.


On the LLZ West approach, in the narrow valley.


Looking down at the city.


Nearing the MAPt, where a visual right turn is made to heading 254*.



After the turn, heading 254*.


On the right downwind for RWY08, now hdg 264* and 3700'.


Turning and descending to line up RWY08.


Almost completed the turn to final, but too high. Reduce throttle!


On short final, lined up nicely, altitude problem fixed as the GPWS calls 100'.


Idle thrust at 60KIAS, flaps up, spoilers retracted.


Comments are welcome as always.

Sceneries used:
eurslowi.zip (adds OEJ llz, missing in FS9) - Avsim
innsbruck_g2k4.zip (very nice terrain, landclass, river for Innsbruck) - Avsim
switzerland_austria.zip (high detail mesh for switzerland and austria) - also Avsim

Charts Used:
http://www.ivao.org/at - click on 'downloads' then 'karten'

Happy flying

[EHM-1343 Jonathan]

WOW, spectacular shots, i need to try that out


looks so good fun, was it a smooth touch down. btw, you should try to land there in harder weather, i done a vis rwy26 there and i nearly crahsed, cheers for the scenery links

[EHM-1343 Jonathan]

can you post direct links to the files, i cannot find them:(

[EHM-1617 Iain]

Yes the touchdown was smooth, will try different weather.

The LLZ West is sensational, but you need at least the top scenery listed above to use it. You start about 20nm west of the airport, join a LLZ (no GS). The LLZ is not lined up with the RWY at all, the RWY is off to the left at an angle. In the 737 you need a steep 1400fpm descent to keep to the profile.

Then the AB locator swings, you crank over to the right, just missing the mountains, follow the southern edge of the valley and desc to 3700' (just clearing some of the valley), then crank it over to the right again at your Vref and 30*bank (scary, I almost stalled) and even then you miss the centreline, have to turn back to it and you find yourself on a quite short final approach.

http://www.firwien.at/charts/lowi/locdme_west.pdf - the approach chart.
http://www.firwien.at/charts/lowi/pfslowi_vac.pdf - the visual section. You come in on the red line from the bottom left toward the AB NDB, then follow the outermost red line.

Of course, in the alps, theres always the foehn to contend with - limited visibility, 20KT (50KT gust) southerly winds up and downdrafts . That must be really hard.

[EHM-1617 Iain]

Instead of typing 'blahblahblah.zip' type 'blahblahblah*' in to the avsim search.

I don't know why you need to, but it seems to work.

The top and bottom ones are dead easy to install, the middle one is harder. And the mesh is about 47MB.

[EHM-1617 Iain]

But in case it doesn't:

the LLZ - http://library.avsim.net/esearch.php?DLID=&Name=&FileName=eurslowi.zip&Author=&CatID=root

the landclass - http://library.avsim.net/esearch.php?DLID=&Name=&FileName=innsbruck_g2k4.zip&Author=&CatID=root

the mesh - http://library.avsim.net/esearch.php?DLID=&Name=&FileName=switzerland_austria.zip&Author=&CatID=root

[EHM-1343 Jonathan]

Ah, thats really great help, thanks Iain;)

[EHM-1365 Benjamin]

Fantastic shot Iain. Always a fun landing there (not necessarily successful at the same time though ).

Favourite is the one with the turn onto finals.

[EHM-1500 Jim]

Nice shots Iain....if ever i feel a bit bored with an hour to kill then a nice run into Innsbruck with the Beechcraft 1900D does it for me everytime!!

[EHM-1343 Jonathan]

yeah, i mastered it in the fokker, gonna try it in the 757 now, will post pics, owever i don't have the mesh installed yet, so the bridge appears broken and the river runs up the side of a mountain hehe:$

[EHM-1617 Iain]

If you are going to do any approach into innsbruck in a 737 or bigger then take absolutely as little fuel as possible. You need to be able to make a 0.9NM turn radius (which is 154KIAS 25* bank).

Obviously this is close in a 737 (you have to get almost down to Vref before you even enter the visual section of the approach) but in anything bigger... you get the idea. And if you miss the turn radius then there is no leeway at all, you go into the other side of the valley.

For LLZDME WEST Approach:

Get on the LLZ as on the chart and put the gear down before even starting descent. You'll need it - it's a steep descent and you have to keep your speed down for the turns. Establish at 150KIAS with a 1300fpm descent to 5000.

After AB, turn to heading 254* keeping your altitude at the MDA of 5000' no lower. This turn must be a 0.9NM radius or less eg. 154KIAS 25* bank). Check if you have visual reference with the airport. If not, then turn back to the right to rejoin the LLZ and follow the Missed Approach.

When another valley opens on your left, then turn right to 264* and descend slowly (about 650fpm) to 3700. If you descend too quickly, you will hit the side of a hill. You should have the AD out your right window.

Now you have cleared the side of the hill, increase descent rate to around 800 or 900fpm. When you are 45* past the AD, then make another small radius turn to line up. It is almost impossible not to overshoot this turn just a little bit. Use the PAPI and put the plane down on RWY08. And give yourself a pat on the back.