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Cypriot \"HELIOS\" airliner crash in Greece
EHM-1507 Manuel:
well, freezing coud also be an symptome of poisoning some poisons could lead to shivering...
EHM-1366 Themis:
Correction, the circles were anti-clockwise. This means that if somebody was trying to find LGAV and land the plane he/she was most likely sitting at the left seat and making left turns provides better view to the person sitting aleft. But I think I 've gone too far by now, I'm sure there are many points left in the way to make any kind of assumption till now... :s
EHM-0005 Maarten:
Poisonned oxygen is only possible when breathing through a mask. The oxygen that is going through the airco is the same for both cabin and flight deck. Passengers poisonned by the oxygen coming from the lose mask of the commander is impossible.
At this moment, I stick to the malfunction of an oxygen system. We can only speculate about poisonning.
--- Quote ---Also the plane doesn't seem to have crashed due to run out of fuel.
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You are right, the aircraft did not crash due to low fuel. The descent that resulted in the crash was most likely caused by the co-pilot lying unconsiousness on the yoke. This caused an override of the autopilot.
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The F16 pilots reported that at sometime they saw two people in the cockpit, presumably trying to take control of the plane.
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This is the first time I hear this, so I can't say a lot about it. This is most likely speculation by the media.
If this is right (and this is the only thing I am going to say about it) then it could be passengers too. [--> Pilots have bad oxygen from their oxygen system -> commander gets out the cockpit to get fresh air -> Passengers see what is happening and go to the cockpit, because they are unsure about the pilots
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Could the two clockwise circles over LGAV be executed by autopilot or someone else tried to take control and land the airplane?
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I am not aware of these facts, so I can't say anything about it.
EHM-1366 Themis:
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well, freezing coud also be an symptome of poisoning some poisons could lead to shivering...
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Well, its true. Or, maybe the captains were starting feeling dizzy-unconfortable-sweating and assumed that there is something wrong with the airconditioning. Before they left Larnaca control they reported some problem with the airconditioner...it was the last contact they had with a ground station
EHM-1366 Themis:
--- Quote ---If this is right (and this is the only thing I am going to say about it) then it could be passengers too. [--> Pilots have bad oxygen from their oxygen system -> commander gets out the cockpit to get fresh air -> Passengers see what is happening and go to the cockpit, because they are unsure about the pilots
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That's what I believe.
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