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Airbus A380 in EHM fleet?

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EHM-1001 Robert:
What the hell are they doing ? Are they replacing all the Airbus fleet ???

EHM-1703 Philip:
Emirates is one of the fastest growing airlines in the world in terms of fleet. Unfortunately they are not growing in PAX terms at quite the same rate. I know the deal they have done with Airbus for the A380 has the 43 aircraft they have on order being delivered over a minimum period of 10 years and a maximum of 15. I hear they have a similar deal with Boeing on the Triple 7's. You have to remember that even though Emirates is ordering large numbers of aircraft, the last of these is not expected to be delivered until 2020! That's a long way off in Airline terms, especially when you consider that a prestige carrier like Emirates will probably be retiring the first planes of this order before the last one is delivered! It also a widely toted fact that Emirates got such a good deal on the A380 that it was almost imposssible for them to refuse as Airbus was desperate to get a large order on the books.

True Lufthansa has placed firm orders for 15 but they have options on what is believed to be 10 more and there are roumours as they were an early customer on the 747-400 (they have been flying the 400 series for something like 17 years almost) that they will be planning to order the replacements for the entire fleet in the next 18 months these commitments have not been assigned to Airbus although it is believed that they are under a lot of pressure to buy European and as they have a large Airbus fleet anyway, this is likely although I bet Boeing are driving a hard deal! This could total something like 30 aircraft!

EHM-1617 Iain:
A little bit of a problem here for the A380: wake vortices. They were hoping that it would increase PAX per RWY per HOUR, but now initial surverys are suggesting it will need about 10 miles spacing on approach due to extreme wake vortices. This is especially a problem at EGLL, where aircraft are crammed in as close as 2 miles if the vortex rules allow it, but with an A380 that's needing 10 the PAX/RWY/HR rate will be decreased.

http://www.flightinternational.com/Articles/2005/11/23/Navigation/177/203231/ICAO+warns+on+A380+wake+vortices.html

EHM-1760 Sven:
I think the A380 needs a new catecory like super heavy aircraft:o:o:o

10nm = 18,5 km and 15nm= 27,8km for all other phases of flight including en-route that are a long distances

that is not only a problem in EGLL I think that is a problem for all big airports but the ATC will get along with it I am sure
A 747-400 or a MD 11 or A340 probably don't need such a long distances.

EHM-1001 Robert:
I am a bit confused now... I saw a 2 hours document film on Discovery Channel about building the A380. It was told there, the vortex problem caused a lot of problem to the developers. But then, they implemented the new winglets, and they reduced the vortex size, reaching 1 minute gap for takeoff, which is absolutely normal at heavy aircrafts. And in low altitude, you can fly only about 4 miles within1 minute, not 10 !

So how is it ? The new winglet was only a marketing trick ?

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