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EHM-1343 Jonathan:
Do sports stars or musicians not fit into your list?

EHM-1199 Philip:
Difficult one that Razza. I guess the answer is yes but not for transitory folk who are of the moment. I wouldn't for example include the likes of Madonna, or even Elton John. They are current yes but almost certainly of the moment. There would be an argument for people who have lived beyond their moment - e.g. John Lennon. Sport's stars again is a difficult one. The Americans here would argue for say, Babe Ruth. Most Europeans know he played Baseball and struck out dozens of times before ever getting a home run. However, most folk couldn't put a face or team to him. He is a national folk hero maybe but not an international star. Most of Europe would argue the same if we tried to place the likes of Geoff Hurst or Bobby Charlton up there. They are national heros but not really recognised in the same way internationally. For an international VA we would need people who are recognised internationally.

Sorry, for a moment I found myself being serious ... anyway back to winding up the yanks ;)

Otto Lilenthal is the father of flight and without him the Wright brothers would have had no starting point ... he deserves a named plane more therefore than the Wright brothers.

What about the inventor of television ... no .... calm down over the pond ... not Philo Farnsworth who although Time man of the year actually got there half a decade behind ... John Logie Baird.

EHM-1612 Paolo:
MC HAMMER is the best! ;D
This is my list of people that must be remembered for their big actions in the exploration and transport area:
1. Neil Armstrong
2. Iury Gagarin
3. the Wright brothers
4. Leonardo da Vinci for his studies on aerodinamic and flying objects
5. Icaro ( he was the first to fly)
6. Alexander Magnus for his explorations
7. Marco Polo for his travel
8. Cristoforo Colombo for his lucky action
9. Magellano for his fantastic half-travel ( he died in Philippines) around the world
10. Tom Cruise ( for his leading role in Apollo 13) :>

EHM-1199 Philip:
Tom Cruise wasn't in Apollo 13 ... that was Tom Hanks.

Icaro ... why? Alexander Magnus ... not up there really on the whole International stage.

Marco Polo ... one of those strange ones where we need to nod and say .yeah, interesting guy. but on the international stage I would argue the guy isn't quite making the top list.

As I said, maybe Otto should have a place over Wilbur and Orville ... or is that the duck! Maybe Orville the duck should be up there ... I wish I could fly... right up to the sky ... and now I can with EHM :)

I like the inclusion of Neil Armstrong but alongside this Iury seems like an also ran. (Oh no ... what's happening to me ... I'm bigging up the americans!)

This is such a contentious issue ... I'm enjoying the debate. Perhaps we could throw in Barnes Wallace ... at least if the plane crashed out it would probably bounce :)

EHM-1199 Philip:

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3. Eurocargo - Ernst Heinkel (Designer of the first ever Jet Aeroplane)
 
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Or Frank Whittle perhaps ... if indeed Ernst first put the plane together that would be on the back of Frank's genius.

The problem is we need to find people who's history cannot be contended either. It really is impossible if you try and speak with the Americans who in four hundred years of history claim pretty much every invention. (Take the automobile - car - invented by the frenchman Joseph Cugnot in 1769. The gasoline variation later invented by Daimler and Benz. Now, go ask an American who invented the car! Indeed, do an internet search on it and you'll find thousands of pages of incorrect history!) We should try to avoid these disputes and find people internationally agreed to be the tops. (So, I take back my Sir Francis Drake lest those who remember him as the pirate, El Draco are offended ;) )

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