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EHM-0361 Karsten:
I can agree with Phil, it would perhaps be more  realistic if we moved class 1-3 traffic to Gatwick, or at least the traffic the domestic traffic. There are 14 flights in the EHM going out of EGLL to different parts of the United Kingdom. I would guess there are 14 going back as well. So if we did that it would be 28 class 1-3 flights we moved from EGLL to EGKK. That's shouldn't be that big of a deal.
However I can understand if the MT isn't to keen on the idea. Because that would mean they had to make 28 new flights. Because you can't just move those 28 flight. So 28 new flights with 28 new flight numbers, plus we still need to keep the old flights in the database, otherwise some pilot will start to have blank records in their flight record. So I can understand both sides of this. However I'm sure in the end that the MT is going to make the right decision, whatever that might be.

EHM-1199 Philip:
Karsten, thanks for this. I hear what Bruno said and understand the management are working hard as ever and this is a 'fringe' issue compared to some of the bigger developments. However, what you say Karsten makes perfect sense. Put alongside say a chopper flight linking EGLL and EGKK we could have a realistic use of EGKK and also provide pilots with a reason to purchase and enjoy Gary's superb scenery.

EHM-0654 Murray:
I'll just quote a small part of a post I made in the management forum:


--- Quote ---Originally posted by Murray Crane
Flights to/from Gatwick? I say "tinkers rucksack!" What does it matter if we have flights to/from there or not. Having our logo on a few gates will get us additional exposure, whether we have flights or not (a flight or two would be nice).

I don't expect anyone outside the UK to care about Gary's scenery, and I really don't think any non-EHM pilots would want to add our "gates" to their GatPro. I didn't buy the UK2000 bits I own because of EuroHarmony, I bought them because I like to fly VFR in the UK. As an owner of much of the UK2000 scenery (Heathrow Pro and most of the UK part sets) I'll probably buy GatPro too. It'd be nice to see the EHM name whenever I'm thereabouts.
--- End quote ---


Baring my hardware investments (I have another $1,500+US purchase lined up...) the next single greatest expenditure I have made is on UK terrain, scenery and textures. I'm a UK "pilot", I enjoy spending time in UK airspace, and I want it to look as "real" as I can afford to make it. I'm never going to spend anywhere near as much on non-UK.

I see this issue currently having no impact on non-UK/non-EHM pilots. If, longer term, we do start more realistic UK operations (EGLL for Transcontinental, EGKK or one of the other London airports for Domestic and "local" International), great! However, I doubt it will have any effect on GatPro.

As such, this is nothing more than a brand awareness exercise. I'd like to see EHM taking Gary up on his kind offer on maybe one or two gates (one "large", one "small"). Perhaps a few EHM UK pilots will enjoy seeing the logo whenever they are there, same as I know I will.

EHM-0641 Rico:

--- Quote ---Originally posted by Murray Crane
I'll just quote a small part of a post I made in the management forum:


--- Quote ---Originally posted by Murray Crane
Flights to/from Gatwick? I say "tinkers rucksack!" What does it matter if we have flights to/from there or not. Having our logo on a few gates will get us additional exposure, whether we have flights or not (a flight or two would be nice).

I don't expect anyone outside the UK to care about Gary's scenery, and I really don't think any non-EHM pilots would want to add our "gates" to their GatPro. I didn't buy the UK2000 bits I own because of EuroHarmony, I bought them because I like to fly VFR in the UK. As an owner of much of the UK2000 scenery (Heathrow Pro and most of the UK part sets) I'll probably buy GatPro too. It'd be nice to see the EHM name whenever I'm thereabouts.
--- End quote ---


Baring my hardware investments (I have another $1,500+US purchased lined up...) the next single greatest expenditure I have made is on UK terrain, scenery and textures. I'm a UK "pilot", I enjoy spending time in UK airspace, and I want it to look as "real" as I can afford to make it. I'm never going to spend anywhere near as much on non-UK.

I see this issue currently having no impact on non-UK EHM pilots. If, longer term, we do start more realistic UK operations (EGLL for Transcontinental, EGKK or one of the other London airports for Domestic and "local" International), great. Then, maybe, the general user population would perhaps have a desire to purchase a payware scenery pack such as this, but I doubt it. I don't think Gary is going to see a surge in purchases if we begin operating from EGKK.

As such, this is nothing more than a brand awareness exercise. I'd like to see EHM taking Gary up on his kind offer on maybe one or two gates. Perhaps a few EHM UK pilots will enjoy seeing the logo whenever they are there, same as I know I will.
--- End quote ---


Murray.. 100% agreed.. wheather we fly there or not, our name being there will give us more exposure to non EHM pilots, and maybe they will be interested to visit our site, and ultimately join our VA...

EHM-1199 Philip:
I hear what you are saying Murray - the EHM logo on there even if it was a non-EHM flight would still be great. The reality is though that these gates are downloaded as a bolt on and consequently the only folk seeing the gates are the EHM pilots. This is about us getting a little more pleasure from our flight simming and VA.
Listening to other comments on the forum too many folk fly largely VA flights ... there are other threads running where people have tried to get flights listed in our timetable so they can claim VA hours and some folk, who shall remain nameless unless they want to wave another flag in this thread, who have been filing personal flights under EHM9999 to get the hours! Hence, it is important to folk that their flight sim time is accredited at EHM and a small handful of flights in and out of Gatwick would be easy enough to do and give folks more pleasure from the Gatwick Pro scenery if they choose to purchase than if they could only fly non-EHM flights to enjoy it.

Either way, the way this started was a request for a decision on which terminal and piers. If we could sign up to a consensus on that I'll get back to Gary and then whether or not folk's buy the scenery is up to them and whether or not any flights actually go there for us is up to management.

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