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EHM-1749 Hector:
Today as I was approaching Viena (LOWW) from Athens and when being below 10000´I was commanded by the controller to speed up to a minimum of 270 kias. Even though I warned him that I was below 10,000´he insisted so I had to do it. Of course, I received a 150 points penalty.
How can we do in future events to deal with this?
Any input is apprecaited.
Hector Partidas
EHM1749

EHM-1703 Philip:
Hi Hector,

As far as I am aware there is no way to overide a penalty on PP, even from the server.

It is very infrequent that you will be asked to do this and the controller was wrong to do so in my eyes. He should have slowed the traffic behind you and kept you at a maximum of 250 unless there was an emergency inbound in which case if you were intefering with it you should have been stacked or diverted.

I am sure the ATC guys can put me right if that is wrong. You can be issued high speed clearance or you can request high speed clearance under 10,000 but I didn't think it was mandatory to maintain a higher speed.

EHM-1798 Conrad:
Well he would have done it for separation, but 270 knots is extreme. I think it would be good to leave it down to poor separation and poor judgment by the controller. Next time, ask the controller why you are needed to go this fast! Also if it was that bad, then he should have given you a new heading or even new altitude. Question him! I would :P

If a controller does something rash, they should usually explain why ie "EHMXXX turn left heading 260 degrees for separation"

EHM-1429 Terence:
Hi folks,      
                     10000ft Speed Limit

The legal restriction in the US allows you to travel at 250
knots OR your slowest clean maneuvering speed, whichever is faster.”

(If an online ATC controller tries to argue the 250 knot limit with you: Simply refer them to

91.117
paragraph (d). “If the minimum safe airspeed for any particular operation is greater then the
maximum speed prescribed in this section, the aircraft may be operated at that minimum speed.”)

Cheers,

EHM-1555 Kendy:
Hello,

speed limit under FL100 is 250 kts KIAS. If you request or you are approved for high speed under 10'000ft means that you are allowed to fly till 280 kts KIAS.
Our PP system is also set on this mark 280 kts IAS under FL100.
So when you got from ATC to speed up to 270 kts does this mean that you should fly 270 IAS. If you did, you shouldn't get this penalty points......


best regards,

Kendy

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