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2006-10-27 \"The Other Side\"

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EHM-0654 Murray:
As if to prove I'm doing everything I can to fly this tonight, I've printed up the two chart packs and I now see that the RouteFinder routing is a little askew (hardly surprising given the newness of VTBS). The SID transition we'll likely want/need to use is REGOS isec... depending on the active, the SID will be one of:

FIRNN 1B/1C from 01L/01R respectively
COMET 1B from 19R
SEESA 1C from 19L

Javier, how's the weather at WSSS today (in general)? Anything heavy we'll need to be aware of either just arriving, already there, or just on it's way out?

EHM-0005 Maarten:
Is FIRNN (and other nav points that are related to VTBS) included in the latest AIRAC cycle? It's not in AIRAC0610.

EHM-0654 Murray:
I do hope so. The 0610 PM airac knew about VTBS but I didn't get any further along than that. If you have the SID pack from the online page, there are LAT/LONG coordinates supplied for all the RNAV IDENTs. For those without, they appear below:

FIRNN 1B:
> RWY01L (DER)
> VARIS (M015;K220-;R) N13 45.62 E100 45.48

FIRNN 1C:
> RWY01R (DER)
> EXSON (M015;K220-;R) N13 44.90 E100 46.55

thence:
> BS621 (A5000-;R) N13 42.68 E100 57.62
> BS622 (A6000-) N13 30.55 E100 54.29
> FIRNN (A8000+;R) N13 16.48 E100 50.45
> BS624 (FL160-) N13 04.99 E100 44.11

COMET 1B:
> RWY19R (DER)
> ROVEN (M195;K220-;R) N13 36.87 E100 43.18
> BS521 (A5000-;L) N13 31.88 E100 35.64
> COMET (A8000-;L) N13 23.24 E100 34.70
> BS526 (FL160-) N13 04.16 E100 34.81

SEESA 1C:
> RWY19L (DER)
> LOUIS (M195; K220-) N13 35.99 E100 44.21
> BS517 (A5000-) N13 28.70 E100 42.29
> SEESA (A8000-;L) N13 15.07 E100 38.72
> BS518 (FL160-) N13 04.13 E100 37.16

thence:
> JASSY (L) N12 48.33 E100 34.90
> REGOS N12 00.10 E100 34.90

And for those not used to seeing these thing, the FIRNN deps consist of TO and a NAV point, then the four NAV points in the immediately following "thence", then the two NAV points in the final "thence"; COMET and SEESA are TO and four NAV points, then the two NAV points in the final "thence".

UPDATE: I've just downloaded all the 0611 updates from Navigraph that I need, and looking in the vasFMC data (which it turns out is just a series of text files) I can confirm that the two ISECs I looked for (EXSON and FIRNN) are in there.

EHM-1798 Conrad:
0611 is out, however i wont be able to attend, im working tonight ;(

EHM-1947 Miko:
For PMDG Users there is also a SID/STAR VTBS.TXT available in WWW.NAVDATA.AT.

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