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EHM-1838 Andrew:
Your certainly right Christian
The problem with FS is that its to easy fly the aircraft with just a basic knowledge of instrumentation,but when you use PP it starts to reveal your shortcomings.But its good though just a little more knowledge gained.PS thanks for PSS stuff if i can work any of that out i will apply to British Airways for a pilots job.
Cheers Andy;D

EHM-1617 Iain:
Try an ICAO B noise abatement procedure, reducing throttle at 1000 AGL. In essence, it goes like this.

Set takeoff power (around 92-94% N1), or around 89% N1 if using reduced takeoff thrust (recomended if light load, long runway, cold weather - use it whenever possible).

At Vr, rotate at 3* per second to 8* until airborne, and then further rotate to an attitude that allows you to maintain a speed of V2+10 (up to V2+20 if lightly loaded). Usually there will be no pause at 8* as the aircraft becomes airborne straight away. The final rotation attitude will usually be in the region of 18*, plus or minus 3*. Get the gear up when you have two indications of positive climb (altimeter and VSI). Maintain V2+10-20 by adjusting pitch as necessary.

At 1000 feet AGL, reduce the thrust to climb thrust (around 90* N1 - if takeoff was performed with reduced thrust, you won't have to do much) and simultaneously lower the nose to 10*-12*. Maintain this pitch. When speed hits the flap maneuvering speed of the setting you are using and you are accelerating, retract the flaps to the nextstage.

e.g. flaps currently set to 5, accelerating through the flaps 5 maneuvering speed (about 185k), retract the flaps to 1.

e.g.2 flaps currently set to 1, accelerating through the flaps 1 maneuvering speed (about 200k), retract the flaps.

Maintain the pitch until the speed hits 220k. On reaching this speed maintain it. The aircraft will be 'clean' in a stable climb at 220k. You can then engage autopilot/autothrottle, accelerate to 250k (monitoring the autothrottle) and you're good to go! Meanwhile, don't forget to fly the departure route. Hopefully this should stop you getting penalties in medium sized jets.

EHM-1838 Andrew:
Thanks Iain
I will TRY to put your theory into practice.Its probably not a bad thing that i crashed as i can now practice my takeoffs in my other much neglected VA(since discovering logger and PP).
Again thanks for taking the time.
cheers Andy
Blimey no spelling mistakes .
Even THATS improving:P

EHM-2089 Vincent:
Hi,

this thread is really useful, thanks for the host of info posted here. I am still flying the smaller ones, on Class 1, just got promoted to fly Class 2, so will surely be bumping into these problem shortly ... I hope this forum thread, will help me reduce on that penalty.

EHM-2029 Sotiris:
Vincent,

welcome to our community. Everyone here tries to help each other :)
Just remember, don't fly pro-pilot to learn a plane. You'll quickly gather more penalty points than you care to count (I'm talking from hard experience).
Use FLLogger as it helps reveal mistakes but only fly ProPilot with a bird that you know and feel comfortable with.

All the best

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