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EHM-1883 Matt:
When I posted the topic, I was a bit angry, as you could probably see;D

I feel better now, after all, when I posted this topic, everything was going wrong for me, and then after reading about a possible black hole, I guess it was the last straw!

I wish I could withdraw my signature from the petition, however, is it going to make a difference?:%

I'm more in favour of the machine now, but I still think it's a bit too early to use it. I think they rushed into it a bit.

My best area of physics is Astronomy, which doesn't really help here, so when researching about the Hadron Collider, there are some things that completely throw me off, and the black holes were the only thing I could deeply understand (Thanks to Robert for answering the light question!)

As for the people who want it to be built and started, I'm sure there are numerous petitions for the collider. I've looked for petitions for you, but I can't find any yet. I'll try to find one for you guys;D

@ Murray: I think the protons and the electrons are going to be going at 2/3 of the speed of light. I've heard on other websites (non-official) that when they collide, the collision will be at twice the speed of light, but due to Reletivity, I don't think that's possible. And also, Hawking Radiation has not been tested. That's why the media are probably going to try to terrify us later.

EHM-1612 Paolo:
Hi guys, this is such an interesting post! I just love physics, but I've never studied astronomy and black holes (and I won't study these subjects until 2008).
I completely agree with this project as I don't see any problem involving this mini-black hole. I read it will vapourize in 10^(-42 seconds) and I think there is no danger at all, just because CERN scientists are the best in the world, and if they say there's no danger I believe them...
They built www, and that wasn't luck ;)

EHM-1883 Matt:
that's the point I'm making. We don't know whether the Black holes will vapourize. My grandfather (an ex-physicist who worked in World War II, helping to develop the radar) was very interested in this machine. He's dead now, but he was very interested in the theory of hawking radiation, the theory that the black holes will evaporate. My dad told me that he told him (if this is making any sense!) that Hawking Radiation makes perfect sense, but cannot be tested until a black hole is created, and this machine may prove the theory correct. However, it is not certain, because it can only work under particular circumstances. So CERN is going to make these circumstances present in their experiment, so it should be fine, but seeing as it's not even been tested before, we do not know for certain, but I'll believe my grandfather since he seemed confident that if there ever was a black hole, it will evaporate.

@ Ben: This grandfather is on my dads side, not my moms side, so he's english, not Croatian, for once!

@ Paolo: I've never had a very very deep interest into physics, I love it, but I've always loved astronomy more! Can't really say why!

EHM-0654 Murray:
@Matt: There's currently some very good astrophysicists out there who would happily stake their reputations that Professor Hawking has got it right. If, as observation suggests (within the last year), there are black holes holding most galaxies together, then it's also a reasonable certainty that these black holes are broadcasting vast streams of energy back into the universe as we understand it (again, direct oberservation...).

EHM-1883 Matt:
Just bringing back this topic,

I've heard it's going to be switched on on Wednesday, but I'm a bit confused as to what they are switching on! I've heard they're just testing to see if the particles will make it successfuly around the machine, I've heard others say they're actually going to do the collision, I've heard people say that nothing will happen and the fun starts in October.

What is actually going to happen?

p.s. I'm not scared of the machine anymore, I just want to know what's going on;D

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