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EHM-2198 Didimo:
After being used to flying my B737-800 and B767-700 I joined EHM only to be downgraded to a turboprop flyer :(

So I just did my first flight as turboprop in the Sukhoi 80GP from Torino to Zurich and noticed the following problems:

1. The used fuel reported by the Flight Logger appears realistic but the FS9 log showed a much lower (unrealistic) fuel usage.

2. The torque lever works weird, lowering it from Max lowers the torque up to a point after which it starts increasing again. This lead to various weird conditions during the approach.

3. Has a tendency to pitch up

4. Then I tried the a/c (after the official flight) and at a certain altitude I shut down the engines. The aircraft kept up its pitch up tendency, started dropping then stalling and then it starts climbing again (no engines!), then it starts dropping again, stalling, and then up again.

Doesn't look like a very stable model, I hope I get promoted soon because flying this a/c is no fun at all.

EHM-2029 Sotiris:
Hello Didimo,

welcome to the EHM family.
This is a first...
I have flown the Su-80 for countless hours and never experienced any issues like that.
Saying that, we recently had new planes for FSX which I haven't flown.
Is your Su-80 an FSX or FS9 model??

EHM-1001 Robert:
Hello Didimo,

welcome to the community. First of all, if you do not like flying the Sukhoi, you can choose the Beech 1900 which is very popular. ;)

Unfortunately FS can produce unbeliavable things on certain PCs, so I cannot answer all these problems.

1. FlightLogger reads out from FS the fuel quantity. If you realize you have more fuel left than the Logger reported that is almost impossible. It happened to me once when I accidentally parked next to a refuelling station, and I filled my tanks within a second.

2. On turboprop planes, just as on large jets, the thrust is reversable. It depends on your flying style, you can push the levers to reverse mode, for example by the mouse. I fly with a joystick, and it is calibrated, so the 0 lever position equals hitting the F1 key (zero thrust) . But if I try to manipulate the levers by mouse (it is possible even with a live joystick on the desk) I can accidentally push them to reverse position.

3. Mainly small planes can be very sensible to the center of gravity. A not optimal point can cause a high nose. Although I do not remember I realised it in the Su80.

4. Unfortunately FS is a simulator only, and not the real thing. You can do many many things in it with unreal input, which results unreal things. Tuning the flight dynamics can cause situations, that under real conditions the plane flies nicely, but under unreal conditions it will fly unreal. I mean, if you shutdown engines on the air...how can we except a plane to fly ? The Su80 wings produce very high lifting force, and maybe it can cause the unreal situation: it can glide in FS without power.

EHM-2198 Didimo:
Well, it is an ok plane but I guess I did not expect that sinusoidal behaviour while engines where off.

Pity the a/c has greyed cabin windows rather than a translucent window with some fake pilots as some models :(

In the meantime happy with my EHM flight though I have to get used to the fact that I can't fly wherever I want due to the routes. I finally had ATC (Milan) but unfortunately Swiss Radar lighted off before I arrived to their airspace :(

Still learning about the logger, unfortunately I first put the plane there at the gate and since I did not want to let the 5:45AM time advance I put the sim on PAUSE while on ground and when I submitted the PIREP it said "We will discount the 19 minutes your simulator was on PAUSE" !!! :( Also had another first, somehow during the flight my sim went into half speed rather than normal speed.

My problem now comes to PC overload... I have IvAp and IvAe on the secondary (laptop) but my FS PC not only runs now the simulator but also Flight Sim Commander X, FS Realtime, a browser AND EHM Flight Logger. Would love to move some of those to the secondary but €23 for WideFS (and then only for ONE FS version!) seems a bit excessive.

Hopefully I have another exciting flight, I lost the screenshot of my 1st EHM flight with a night dawn over the alps :(

EHM-1001 Robert:
Well, that nasty PAUSE problem can be annoying. Therefore there is a simple trick:

Load the game, prepare your aircraft, fill in cargo and fuel, start multiplayer software if you want, and start the Logger only when you are ready for pushback ! Also, you do not need to place your plane to starting spot by the Logger. Just select aircraft and flight, and that is enough ;) This way you will not lose paused time, and you will not mix the things in FS ;D

I do not know your specs, but you can see my at the bottom...I think my PC is a quite old machine, but runs fine all the programs at once you mentioned:

- FS2004 fully packed with scenery and AI
- FS Navigator
- FS Screenshot
(- FS passengers) sometimes
- ActiveSky weather
- Adobe Reader for browsing charts
- FlightLogger
- browser for EHM ProPilot portal
- browser for surfing...
- Messenger

and occasionally the multiplayer overload:
- IVaP
- IvaE
- TeamSpeak

sounds terrific much, but works fine ;) ... and sometimes I am even watching movies when get bored ;D

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