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EHM-2097 Andrei:
I realize now I have been kind of harsh on my first post :)

In my defense, let's say that it never occured to me that it was an option to fly online for traffic, because in my "online existence" traffic seemed rather scarce. Also, it is even less predictable than ATC presence.

Which leaves only the ATC to have fun online with... or the opposite, depending on one's luck ;D

The fact is that there is one major point on which the online community does not agree (yet?). How far the "as real as it gets" should go? Especially when obviously the best real life practice is not quite adequate for flight simming and vice versa.

One controller once explained to me, when I commented on some procedure: "I realize this is not a good way to do things, but this is the real life procedure and we are proud to replicate even the errors they do in real life".

Another fine example is a forum thread on IVAO where people could not agree whether the ATC should say things like "have a nice flight, good bye". It is polite, but non procedural...

Also, there are various reasons, both personal and produced by training, why some ATC are excessively bossy.

Personally I think the keyword here is "reasonable". In the online community, every one is supposed to have fun but should also do reasonable efforts to let the others have fun too. Some extra work, for some extra fun, to put it otherwwise.

Andrei

EHM-1883 Matt:
I always so "Welcome to *wherever we are*" unless there are heaps of traffic.

There is no excuse to not be polite;D

EHM-C8LE Kyrre:
I would like to try online, but after reading this site I`m not so sure.. Are yoy really not allowd to be a noobie and make some mistakes online?. I`ve already installed Ivao but havent tried it yet.. And what is the easiest for a beginner vatism or ivao?.. Anyway I have to improve my landing skills before going online, usaually my flights ends with a BOOM;-(
But when I`m ready I would like to fly with someone the first time, just to learn the basics.

EHM-1883 Matt:

--- Quote ---Originally posted by EHM-C8LE Kyrre
I would like to try online, but after reading this site I`m not so sure.. Are yoy really not allowd to be a noobie and make some mistakes online?. I`ve already installed Ivao but havent tried it yet.. And what is the easiest for a beginner vatism or ivao?.. Anyway I have to improve my landing skills before going online, usaually my flights ends with a BOOM;-(
But when I`m ready I would like to fly with someone the first time, just to learn the basics.
--- End quote ---


I would say start on IVAO because there is less traffic. I would say start at an airport in the middle of nowhere where you can just get used to the IVAP system and familiarize yourself with things such as the Flight Plan.
The you can work on flying along with other pilots, and then when you've learnt the proper Phraseology, fly with Air Traffic Controllers.
Flying with Air Traffic Controllers is a very big step as it is a completely new experience. We all make big mistakes and it is best to put in your flight plan that you are new, but as we all also know, practice makes perfect and if you fly with them long enough, you will get used to it and it will be easy :)

My last bit of advice would be when you fly with ATC for the first times, instead of using a microphone, use the text box instead. This way you can take your time, there is not so much pressure to readback, and you can understand everything the ATC says because it is written down. It's harder for the ATC, but if there were no pilots, there would be no ATC so who cares what they think;D

Finally, the online training department will help you fly for the first time with someone else so you will know what you're doing.

EHM-1953 Daniel:
I have flown a bit online before, i think it's almost 50h or so, but now i don't have the time...
I think that if i had spent 200h or so i would maybe have dared to remove the "newbie" from the flightplan, it is really much to know and understand.
 It's a long time ago i flew the last flight online but i appreciated most of the controllers i met out there and especially those that were extra helpful and then added some lines of courtesy after i left their airspace or so on , but i'm still to inexperienced and insecure with procedures and stuff to log on just to enjoy.
I'm afraid that the controller should say something that i don't understand or doesn't find the mentioned thing in the charts etc.
And on top on that i have had problems with an unstable system and CTDs, and i think that it's unfare to the controller that spend time to help me and then my dot on his screen just disappears....

Well, i think that that's my reasons not to fly online any longer where the time aspect is the strongest for now, with time all the other things would be sorted out.

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