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EHM-2387 Eric-Jan:
I have the same issues, being an FSX-only pilot.
I am just a beginner, so up to now I only flew the SU-80, B1900D, and recently I am trying to master the F1 ATR.
All of these are FSX-able, if not FSX specific (ATR). So, up 'till now no problem.
The thing is, however: I only fly ProPilot, and flogger starts to warn in bold red lines that the selected plane / route is not the same as locked previously if that is the case. I never actually flew a flight after that warning, but I could imagine that flogger would end up with an error message, and not filing the pirep. If that is true, then alternative aircraft are not possible in combination with PP.
That would seriously limit my VFA options.
I could try to convert some VFA aircraft for use with FSX if that would be of help. Perhaps fleetmanager Evan Kirou would be able to answer that?
EHM-1997 Alexander:
Do you have the livery for the flight 1 atr Eric-Jan?
I had difficulty getting the 2004 livery on fsx version, so I remade a master template for use with text-o-matic. I can supply you with this if you have difficulty.
EHM-2387 Eric-Jan:
Thanks! That would be nice!
I got the EHM livery working, I think with the usual tinkering of the aircraft.cfg. But I would like to put a design of my own on her some day. A layered template would be very helpful then.
I'l U2U U my email adress, so we can be in contact about this.
Thanks again!
EHM-2097 Andrei:
Hi Eric-Jan,
It's probably a little late to say this but you should not be afraid of that message. It's unfortunately a bit of software which is slightly updated. Let me explain:
When the FlightLogger 3.0 was written, the rule was that an aircraft may be used only for flights of the VERY SAME class (like the AT72 for class 3 flights only).
This rule was later relaxed. Currently it is allowed to use an aircraft for any flight requiring the same category of aircraft. Categories are propeller (classes 1-3), jets (classes 4-5) and "really big stuff" (class 7). Of course, this applies within the same division.
The ProPilot software on server side has been updated. Th available flights that you see while locking take into account this category criteria. For instance, after having selected an AT72 the server shows all class 1-3 flights originating where your AT72 is located.
The message displayed by the FlightLogger is only a warning and has no blocking (or otherwise harmful) effects. The message itself says nothing about the locked flight, but only that the selected flight and aircraft do not match (perfectly).
Personally I did numerous ProPilot flights with that warning showing and nothing bad ever occurred. As long as your locked flight is properly recognized by the Flight Logger, there is nothing to be afraid of (except crashes of all kinds, network disconnection and the such ;D )
Hope this helps
Andrei
EHM-2387 Eric-Jan:
Thanks, Andrei, for the reassurance.
In fact I flew LPPT-LPFR yesterday with the ATR. I got that message, but flew anyway. Simply because it is a small hop, and I wanted to try to learn the FMS and stuff like that. I had no problems with flight logger (I did have problems with my internet connection, but that was right after I filed the report [phew]). And the Landing Lights rule bit me in the behind when I was climbing towards FL100, and I thought "Oops, still have my LL on. Quickly, turn them off!" followed by "@%##%*, that was the rule with that other logger, %$#*(*". Ah, well, what's another 100 points on 7500? Ha! But I'm drifting off subject now...
The original post by Alexander was aimed more at the GA planes. As there are none that are FSX compatible in the VFA pool (acc. the table on the site), what would happen if you take a different plane. Say I have a Seneca IV, instead of III. That is not the original EHM plane, obviously, so what would happen with the PP flogger? It must look at the airplane type at some point, and decide that the plane used is not the plane planned. What will happen then? If the info is only recorded in a field without any consequences, than what's to stop me from using my trustworthy ATR instead? Maybe even in a non-EHM livery... See my point? Are any alternatives possible with PP, and if so, then what are the boundaries?
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