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EHM-1532 Søren

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« on: October 16, 2005, 06:18:35 am »
Many of us fly online with either IVAO or VATSIM. But now with PROPILOT,  we have the risk of failures to look forward to. I was wondering what the procedure is in regards to atc. For example with an engine failure. How do we declare an emergency or issue a MAYDAY to atc.

BRGDS

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EHM-1281 Cyriel

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« Reply #1 on: October 16, 2005, 10:29:24 am »
I think I will write a tutorial about this in the next few weeks buti n very short.

When you have an emergency on board but will be able to keep flying or perform a normal landing ( although you need prio and maybe a fire crew and stuf) you call: PAN PAN PAN EHMxxx <nature of the problem> landing gear will not deploy (or something like that). ATC will know you have an urgent problem and get you on a priority landing and divert other traffic if needed.

In the case of a "more dangerous" emergeny which will cause you to crash if you do not land right now you call: Mayday Mayday EHMxxx all engines failed(or something like that).

Thats it in very short words.

Offline EHM-0005 Maarten

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« Reply #2 on: October 16, 2005, 12:04:12 pm »
First of all, I would like to state that the chance you'll get a failure is very small. However, knowing the procedures for distress and urgency situations are good to know.

The following procedures reflect real-world procedures:

Distress messages
A distress message should be issued when you are in a situation of huge danger and/or upcomming danger which requires immediate assistance from ATC.

A distress call should be made on the frequency you are currently on, if nobody responses, make the call again on 121,5.

When you are in distress, your concentration is focussed on the aircraft. However, try to make your distress call as complete as possible.

1) Mayday, Mayday, Mayday
2) Station you are currently on (e.g. Schiphol Approach)
3) Your callsign (e.g. EHM1234)
4) the emergency (engine 2 failure) (engine numbers are counted from left to right, so the outer right engine of a 747 is engine 4)
5) Intentions of the captain
6) Position, altitude and course of the aircraft
7) Other useful information

When you are in distress, set your transponder code to 7700. If you are hijacked, set your transponder code to 7500. If a hijack gets out of hand and you're in emergency, set it to 7700.

Urgency messages
An urgency message should be issued when not immediate assistance is required. This can be related to your own aircraft or to something else. For example: If you see a small aircraft crashing in the fields then you should issue a urgency call too.

An urgency message should be made at the current frequency first, when you get no response: make the same call again at 121,5.

An urgency call looks like this:
1) PAN PAN, PAN PAN, PAN PAN
2) Call sign of the ground station (e.g. Schiphol Approach)
3) Your callsign (e.g. EHM1234)
4) Description of the urgency situation
5) Intentions of the captain
6) Position, altitude and course of the aircraft
7) Other relevant information

EHM-1328 Willem

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« Reply #3 on: October 16, 2005, 01:38:03 pm »
Oke this is for REAL-LIFE but if your ONLINE on netwerk rember this:

VATSIM:

8.   Pilots are permitted to declare in-flight emergencies.  If, for any reason, air traffic control requests the pilot to terminate the emergency, then the pilot must do so IMMEDIATELY or log off of VATSIM.  Pilots are not permitted to simulate, in any manner, an unlawful act while logged onto the VATSIM.net network including, but not limited to, declaring a hijack by statement utilizing either voice or text or by entering a transponder code of 7500.


IVAO:  
    4.4.5 - On the IVAO network Hi-jacking, war simulation and all other forms of
       aggression are not allowed.


Regrards Willem, EHM1328

Offline EHM-0005 Maarten

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« Reply #4 on: October 16, 2005, 01:39:48 pm »
About the hi-jack, that was just an extra piece of information ;) I understand that VATSIM/IVAO do not allow hi-jacks

EHM-1539 Pierre

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« Reply #5 on: October 16, 2005, 02:57:36 pm »
Regarding the XPDR emergency codes, there is a last one : 7600, meaning radio unserviceable...

EHM-1532 Søren

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« Reply #6 on: October 16, 2005, 04:21:38 pm »
Thanks Guys, this is quite helpfull. The procedure as I see it is quite similar in most respects to the maritime distress procedures.

can't wait for 2359 ;)

Best regards

Søren

EHM-0001 Gergely

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« Reply #7 on: October 18, 2005, 10:19:28 am »
Hi,

the following are links from the IVAO training pack:
http://www.ivao.org/training/tutorials/Ipack/Files/L5-Emergprocs.htm
http://www.ivao.org/training/tutorials/Ipack/Files/L6-Emergprocs.htm

(these are mostly for ATC, but pilots can find it useful too)

Gergely

 

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