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EHM-1749 Hector:
Murray,
I really don't think the problem is with IVAO because as soon as I fill the PIREP manually it is accepted. The problems seems to be in the EHM database with my ID. Whenever I click to send the PIREP to IVAO I get the following message:



Then after I fill the PIREP manually I send it without problems.
Like I said before this has been going on probably on the last 6 months.

EHM-0654 Murray:
Wow, that is freaky, isn't it?

I'll check again what our end of the VA system says, then as I still think it's an IVAO database issue, get in contact with them with all the screenshots we now have to prove the point.

EHM-2097 Andrei:
This problem looks very familiar to me... and I always thought it is an IVAO problem. I had the same first digit misteriously disappearing from the pilots id when navigating from one screen to another.

So maybe it is the same problem. Hector, by chance is your manually filled PIREP still pending so that I can check how validation goes? In fact, I'd better look :)

[EDIT]
I checked and the flight was there all right... but I was wrong. Indeed on all (pending) PIREPs but Hector's the first digit of the pilot id is missing, and unfortunately it looks like we validated lots of flights having this problem. However, I checked and this id mismatch has absolutely no impact on the pilot flight time counter, these flights are linked to the right IVAO account whatever the VA pilot id.

However we should fix that, it looks like the first digit is lost when the PIREP is submitted. I don't know much about  how this submittal is done, but soon I will have to in order to implement it in FL4. Any specification on this topic, Murray?

Andrei

EHM-0654 Murray:

--- Quote from: EHM-2097 Andrei on August 04, 2009, 02:34:56 pm ---...
However we should fix that, it looks like the first digit is lost when the PIREP is submitted. I don't know much about  how this submittal is done, but soon I will have to in order to implement it in FL4. Any specification on this topic, Murray?

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No idea mate. I would hope that somewhere on IVAO there's some documentation for VA system PIREP submission, but knowing IVAO... May be another case of 'Sharking to see what v3 is doing.

EDIT: Well, I can't be sure if it applies to how v3 sends IVAO PIREPs, but Gustavo H has made the follow documentation available:

[ http://www.ivao.aero/vasystem/admin/Pirep_Send_Info.asp ]

EHM-2097 Andrei:
Sorry but as far as I understand this documentation refers to the opposite scenario: the pilot FIRST fills a PIREP on IVAO site, then using some VA-configurable information the data is sent to the VA. So it's also a single-submit scenario, but it requires IVAO.

This is not applicable to EHM as long as we do not force every flight to happen on IVAO - which we are not.

If you don't have any other info, I will try to search their site + forums to see whether such information was ever published. Last resort, I will write the IVAO dev department to see what they think about it.

However, if the official position of IVAO is NOT to support PIREP submission from the VA sites to their site, in this case I am afraid we won't have this feature in FL4. I prefer to let it out rather than develop on an unsupported interface that can change at any moment without notice, resulting in our system to fail.

Andrei

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