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Why not fly online?

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EHM-2758 Peter:
Hi Dominic,

Ok, you're right. We did discuss this item before. Since there hasn't been any following up since then and I do see the need of promoting online flying, I'm willing to make a humble start to get our members online. I hope that when things are made more concrete, we can count on experienced online pilots to give a helping hand. I'll send you an email with a basic plan for an Euroharmony Online Flightschool.

Peter

EHM-1465 Dominic:
That's great Peter, thanks very much :)

To everyone else - please share your thoughts and experiences here about online flying so we can gain a better understanding of how to help those who are interested ;)

EHM-2581 Dirk:
Here is my penny's worth. I have for a long time had the urge to fly online but it seemed an overwhelming task on my first try which I eventually gave up on.    I have discussed with members of management and other pilots who have all prompted me to take the jump. And now the humdrum on the Forum. This prompted me as well to try - what with all the anxious pilots that would like to - one should surely not be without assistance.  I ran into so many obstacles which eventually left me bogged down and this is where I am currently. Hardware was not a problem in my case, however the software one needs to become familiar with is scary and this is exactly what Peter refers to. I tried but eventually had to write to IVAO and the basis of this communication is attached hereto under "First Steps".   Problems arose on all the software bits. The setting up of these various required settings is scary - to sat the least.  Take "Teamspeak" - there is a manual available. I went through some of the items briefly until I came upon "Connect". Here the 4x4's wheels fell off and left the wheelnuts hidden somewhere in the mud !. There are about 40+ chapters in this manual alone with "Connect" being on the early pages. For ease of reference I again attach a Snip thereof. Yes many people may find this so easy, but this newbie (to online flying) has fallen off the cart with the terms being used here. This is but one small indicator of what else is there. Those of you out there that have tried and gave up, please give your comments so one can try to establish a core.
I am going to try VATSIM to see what it is like. However along the way I heard that VATSIM concentrates more on the American Flying and IVAO more on Europe. And we are a European based airline. So much for my input. I see no light up ahead but will be very sad to not be able to venture through to the day my first on-line flight is undertaken.     After all, there are some awards that can only be achieved by flying on-line....
Dirk Uys
2581

EHM-1908 Steve:
Hi Dirk
I am suprised that you say the software is difficult to setup because in my opinion IVAP is the most simple unless running on a remote pc which can sometimes be a pain to get right.Regarding setting up TS very little needs to be done and reading to much of what can be out dated manuals will lead you down the wrong road.Perhaps you could do it in sections.Install the IVAP program following the on screen prompts when you have done this then report back and we will go from there.

Hope that helps

Steve

EHM-2581 Dirk:
Hi All, Steve as I said there will surely be those, such as yourself it seems, who find the setting up to be pudding. This was not, however, meant for the gurus but the many people that have given up along the way due to hurdles which seemed to be too high. In any case Steve, the whole idea of this discussions on the Forum was to investigate and establish possible reasons for pilots not flying online in order to try and find ways to get more pilots, such as I, to take the step. I am sure you mean well by saying it is easy but if that were so for everybody then would it be regarded as necessary for such a comprehensive manual to be placed at disposal. I repeat, Steve, this is not about your personal opinion but for the people who excell in other fields than being computer gurus. I can remember writing about MTL, Teamspeak etc not not specifically IvAp.  To put this into perspective I have just received a reply from IVAO and it opens with the sentence:- "First of all we are well aware that the step up for new members can be quite high". Thus it seems that I am not the only surprise factor here. I am convinced you mean well with your input, Steve.
I have gained a wealth of knowledge in the reply from IVAO and am attaching the contents to this in the hope that it will be of help to the others who may be pondering the indea of carrying on or not. Please read also the second paragraph with interest.
Kind regards,
Dirk

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