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EHM-0240 Joe:
I have to agree that the first page has always annoyed me really. When I used to use a dial-up connection it took forever to load and the way I got around it was by just adding a link to the main page in my browser so I never saw it anyway, I suspect a lot of other users probably do this. When you say that it gives an immediate idea of what the site is, the main page does this too in the whole paragraph that is clearly visible entitled welcome.

I don't know about redesigning the site completely though, there is a lot of information and a lot of complicated pages on the site and I think the current set up is a very user friendly way to show it all.

EHM-1001 Robert:
Well, I am a a bit angry now. Maybe not the best word though... I never used the logo page for entry to the site until it was changed sometimes and I wanted to notice the changes. I always used the longer link from the Favourites window, that led me to the REAL main page. I think it is not a real problem, although you are right, the logo only does not show it is a VA, but this is not the main point.

About the general lookout of the site:
I choosen EuroHarmony almost 3 years ago, because I loved the site. I browsed through EVERY VAs site on the VATSIM VA list, and all the sites were amazing boring. They contained no graphics, they used awful colors, awful fonts, and there was not any hierarchy on the most sites. Words like Hanger, Roster, Fleet that have a meaning, were used in a very wrong place and objective.

Then I saw EHM site: superb colors, modern PHP scriptis, statistics, good design, modern forum, nice graphics...and I felt the professionalism behind the website, and felt the power, that this is the community I must join. 3 years ago, I did not know anything about what makes a VA good, but when I saw the homepage I felt this must be the VA and I was not dissapointed ! I am not saying it only because I am part of the team now.

I have to say, that maybe the top menu line is not the best at some points, but I do not care it really. If I browse through the net, I still find those problems I mentioned about. There is only a small VAs left that have a good site. And I do not think a good site is enough for raise the number of pilots. A good arganism behind it is much more important.

EHM-0361 Karsten:
I think it's important that people can express their P.O.V on this subject too. Here is mine, and then I will redraw myself from this subject at least for some time.
I have just like Robert been with EHM for nearly 3 years. One of my reasons for pick it was the website, and the fact it was a european company. Marteen and others made a total redesign of the site in 2003. I think that all here is fairly open to change, both pilots and members of the management. But I think if somebody is talking about a full redesign of the website to make it look more mordern. Well then I think it will have to be another VA with another management. Haven't said that, ideas that can make our airline better is of course welcome and all is intitle to there own opinion. But I have to say I'm strong aganist destroying all of Marteens hard work.
That's all and now I'll keep quiet

EHM-1199 Philip:
I agree with the above. The site and the design is exemplary. Many other VAs with greater numbers of pilots struggle to do a site this good and we should enjoy and be greatful tfor the hard work that has gone in to making this site what it is. If you don't believe what I say, search for VAs on Yahoo or Google and look at the first ten websites listed - mostly they are not even close to this one.

EHM-0948 Bruno:
Well, after I readt some of the posts, I got misunderstood in some points.

First, Merlin, I dont think that a re-design of a VA must lead to a new VA. After all I am not saying to change the logo, or change the funcionality of the site. I am just refering to the layout of the site. Not the processes of the site. That is intrinsic to the VA processes and rules.

I was not comparing this site to another ones. If we are thinking that we should upgrade only when our "competitors" are close (with better sites, and else) you should check another airlines like Gateway Air, or TAP Virtual or British Airways Virtual :) ...

Now, we should not "radicalize" things :) like dumping all Marteens work to the garbage :)

Second, The idea is to have an open mind and more important yet a cold blood analysis on the site, in order to optimize the navigation of the site.

We could have some things like :

- Some images could rotate on the site. Like the images on top of the site. We now have a B747 but it should show another images if we get in the site another time (like a random showimage function).

- We could have a better navigation area. Like a tree-navigation area. In that form, we could have a more dinamic information on the tree. Imagine that you need to put some branches (like special adventures, or something), it should be more easier, and people would know that right on the tree.

- The first page (not the FIRST, but the main page) should have a more organized information. Like Latest news, but with a small text beneath each newsline. Should have a poll that should change more often (i am tired of seeing the "Do you use checklists ?" ... )

- The frame is too small on the all site. Why that size ? To fit 640x480 ?

- The "Life Support" is on the main page. Why ? In the main page we should have information that should be relevant and that should change regurarly. I am seeing that message for long time ... "Life support NOT available".

Look guys, I was giving some ideas (on an open spirit basis) to modify, not re-create all of the site. Of course we could mantain the aspect of the site on colours, logos, and other things, but the information should change more often and the access to information could be more optimized :)

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