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EuroHarmony and IVAO 2013
EHM-2832 Tomi:
Hey guys,
Back in the day (May 2013) I joined EuroHarmony as an offline pilot, happy and convinced enough with my MSFS addon, Radar Contact. But then I joined IVAO, where human pilots meet human controllers, following published ICAO procedures, delivering a whole further level of realism to flying experience only achieved by online flying. Early enough though, I realized that EHM's livery was for some reason missing from the IVAO MTL, although the callsign was still valid and correctly associated both in IvAc and on WebEye as EuroHarmony, and furthermore, EHM's liveries were also on the catalog, but no longer in the installable library.
Going through the EHM forums I've found a post according to which EHM's IVAO membership as a VA was revoked for not enough active registered pilots, which was from 2012...I also asked around on the IVAO forums, according to whom even EHM's callsign was already removed, only the mentioned software work with the old catalog still.
Nevertheless, that got me down enough, suddenly delivering the first ever negative impression I've ever had since the day I joined EuroHarmony. I love the fleet (especially the ability to use my much loved PMDG a/c with EHM), and the routes too, covering and even directly connecting several of my favorite European airports together. So here's my real question: since EHM is still an active airline, what happened to our online backbone? Is the airline today more focused on VATSIM, or rather flying offline? I understand that IVAO is a difficult world with far stricter expections, but -- according to the airline history -- once we did it, is there a chance that we ever will again?
Lastly, I believe my post may have gone a little bit more off-topic than I meant it to be, I'd just like to know if it's still worthwhile to fly the EHM callsign on IVAO.
P.S. I understand online flying is not a requirement at EuroHarmony and I am not trying to influence anyone into anything, I am just driven by curiosity and a touch of sadness to get a view on what happened to something that once, at least for a while, used to work.
P.P.S. To anyone else still flying EHM on IVAO, my greetings to those of you (also, my greetings to everyone taking the while to look at, and, maybe, answer on my topic)!
Thanks in advance for any positive answer.
EHM-1465 Dominic:
Hi Tomi,
You raise an interesting question and one that has been debated a lot behind the scenes among the Management Team. The short answer is that there are not enough EHM pilots who fly regularly online on the IVAO network for us to maintain our VA status there. There are many possible reasons for that - lower pilot numbers than in years gone by, lack of confidence among those who have not flown online before to try it, lack of active MT encouragement through lack of time and personnel to push this area of activity...
We do have some online pilots and I'm sure you'll have seen arrangements to do group flights on the Forum, often for our Events.
We did ask the membership a while back if any pilot here wanted to take a leading role to encourage other pilots to try out online flying or return to it if they'd moved away but there was nobody in a position to take this on with the energy and time needed to take it forward. If you have the time and enthusiasm you might be able to encourage others to join you on IVAO in our colours - what do you think?
EHM-2832 Tomi:
Hi Dominic,
Certainly I would be more than willing to take the effort to bring us back online. I think it would be worthwhile to conduct a survey (unfortunately I am not much on my own but if we could get some of us willing to participate then we are already one step forward), and then maybe organize some sort of training for our members to get them familiar with the principals of flying online the IVAO way - which, up to as far as my own life allows me, I'd willingly take on my back.
EHM-1465 Dominic:
That's great news Tomi :)
I'll send you an e-mail to give you a better idea of where we're at currently and you can let me know what kind of plans you think would work best, ok?
EHM-2832 Tomi:
Ok thanks, looking forward to coordinate with you and it's my pleasure to give a hand for the future of this great airline! ;)
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