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Community Discussion => Flight Operations => Topic started by: EHM-2387 Eric-Jan on December 02, 2014, 09:38:04 pm
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As announced here: http://www.fly-euroharmony.com/forum/index.php/topic,7670.0.html (http://www.fly-euroharmony.com/forum/index.php/topic,7670.0.html),
We have a New tour throughout France.
This thread is for reactions to that announcement, and for getting together to perhaps fly in groups online.
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Anyone who like to fly this tour together online on IVAO, please visit the Doodle-scheduler by clicking the link below and choose your favourite date(s) and time.
http://doodle.com/d87xpzfmdcquccbe (http://doodle.com/d87xpzfmdcquccbe)
For those who like to use the route I planned for this leg, the link below contains a rar-file with flightplans for FSX, FS9 and Xplane: a Plan-G-file; a few VAC's of origin and destination airport.
https://www.dropbox.com/s/9ng5h9zy90byg5g/leg01%20LFPH-LFRS.rar?dl=0 (https://www.dropbox.com/s/9ng5h9zy90byg5g/leg01%20LFPH-LFRS.rar?dl=0)
Meet you all on Mumble!
Peter
p.s. The RAR-file contains something more, which will be revealed by playing it with the Windows Media Player.
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Bonjour mes amis,
Just arrived in Chelles, Le Pin France. In four stages (EHGG-EHBK-ELLX-LFPH) I already brought my Cessna182T Skylane to the start airfield near Paris (I hate being late), where the goods to be transported already were unloaded from the truck. I told the guys to wait till next week, but they were in a hurry and couldn't make it during the weekend. So, to check if the contents of the crates I have to carry next week are ok, I opened one of them and took a bottle back to my hotel. I must say, it's not my favorite drink, but it does give me 'a taste of France'.
Hope to meet you (sober) on Mumble next week,
Peter (hiccup...hiccup)
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If we fly together I'll expect to use one of them: Cessna 172, Cirrus SR20, Piper Cherokee Arrow III, Piper Seneca III or another possibilities... See you next week guys ;D
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The Doodle-poll just closed: we'll fly our first leg of the "Give Taste to France" -tour next Wednesday the 10th of December at 20:00h Z.
There're four of us, but we would be very pleased if you'll join us anyway. Don't be afraid of us, were're a bunch of nice guys ;).
Meet you all on Mumble!
Peter
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"Give Taste to France" ... that's what the four of us (Trevor, David, Gian and me) just did last evening while starting this tour flying from a small airfield in the south-east of Paris, called Chelles Le Pin, to our first destination Nantes. But we certainly did more than that: I'm convinced that we gave something else to the guy that was controlling Le Bourget approach: a bad headache! Le Pin actually is situated just outside his airspace, Class A airspace that is. Instead of setting course east to avoid that zone (I initially thought there was a D en E zone too), we flew straight in. Ooooops... Four small planes on a VFR tour were "kindly" requested to leave that airspace. Someone of us was so scared off that he almost flew into Germany, before setting course westbound.
What did we learn from this: stay out of Class A airspace, keep smiling all the way and don't put into practice the proverb: "When in France, do as the French do" (just a free interpretation).
Not bothered by any ATC on our way, we safely landed in Nantes.
The Doodle-link for next weeks flight from Nantes to Rouen: http://doodle.com/vpqvutg42ipm9m6b (http://doodle.com/vpqvutg42ipm9m6b)
and for those who want to use some extra information (Plan G-file; flightplans for FSX, FS9 and Xplane; Charts of Rouen): https://www.dropbox.com/s/bq7zjlczpka4gha/leg02%20LFRS-LFOP.rar?dl=0 (https://www.dropbox.com/s/bq7zjlczpka4gha/leg02%20LFRS-LFOP.rar?dl=0)
Meet you all on Mumble!
Peter
p.s. if you have any problems downloading the files from Dropbox, just send me a personal mail and I'll send it to you.
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According to the four preferences in the Doodle poll for the second leg of the "Give taste to France" tour, the flight from Nantes to Rouen will take place at Friday the 19th of December at 20:00 H Zulutime.
Meet you all on Mumble!
Peter
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That is good news Peter! I thought I had missed the second leg supposed (in my mind) to be flown yesterday evening!
So, happy to see you all on Mumble on Friday! ;)
Gian
EHM-1882
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Hello Guys,
I may be late this evening, but will try to make it anyway, accelerating 4X if necessary to catch up ;)
Gian
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It was a rainy evening, while we (David, Gian and me) flew from Nantes to Rouen. Nevertheless we enjoyed our tour and encountered some friendly assistance of Paris_CTR for a change, who guided us in safely at Rouen airport.
Because of the Christmas holidays I'll put a Doodle-link for the next flight on this forum in the first week of the new year.
In the meantime: a Merry Christmas and lots of flights in blue sky in 2015.
Meet you all on Mumble!
Peter
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Hi Folks !
I was trying to make a flightplan in FS Navigator, but there are some airfields I could not find -
ex. LFSD, LFSA; LFLL; LFDY;
are this special add ons ?
Is there a solution ?
Cheers
Franz
EHM-1800
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Hallo Franz,
If I've understood you correctly, you cann't find the mentioned airports, which are some small ones, in FS Navigator, but do they appear in your Flight Simulator? If not, what FS are you using (FSX or FS9?).
If they are present in your FS, it's FS Navigator that's probably not up to date. Have you evervtried Plan G for planning your flights?
Peter
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Hi Peter !
I´m using FS9 and that mentioned airport don´t exist even in the flightsimulator.
I can´t load them !
Cheers
Franz
EHM-1800
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Hallo Franz,
Because I don't have FS9 myself, I cann't check the existance of the airfields you mentioned. I designed the tour using FSX. Maybe someone else flying FS9 can verify if they exist, however two of them (LFSA and LFLL) are middle large airport which should appear in FS9. LFSD and LFDY are indeed smaller ones. I know from experience that Flightlogger accept an alternate destination in the vicinity of the original one within a certain range: LFQM instead of LFSA, LFBD instead of LFDY! I really don't know the exact distance.
But to be absolutely sure and to avoid disappointments, maybe Eric-Jan can tell you more when he reads this message.
Peter
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I checked the entire tour before release against all supported sims (FDS9, FSX, XP9, and XP10) with a tool I wrote a couple of years ago (but only the XP10 database could change over time; the others are "static"). At the time I found no errors, so all ICAO codes should be present in FS9 as well. I am firing up FS9 on my laptop as I write this, because my true FS PC is disassembled at the moment. That takes a while, so I have plenty of time to type you an answer ;)
LFSD is present in my "virgin" copy of FS9, see LFSD.jpg You can just see LFSA listed on the top line in that same jpg.
I have checked and found LFLL in the same way.
LFDY, should not have been in the leg list. I should have replaced that one with LFCS as I discussed with Peter at the time. That was for this very reason: it does not exist in FS9... Apparently, I let that one slip through; apologies for that!
I modified the tour legs, but I am not sure what will happen with FL for those that have already assigned themselves this tour, when they get to leg 19. As there is just more than 10 nm between the two, FL will not accept landing on the one airport as having arrived at the other.
The only solution for all that fly FS9 I see at this moment is to fly to LFCS, and file a manual PIREP as if you flew to LFDY. Those that fly FSX or up, can fly to LFDY, as assigned, as it is in their scenery.
Other option is to un-assign and re-assign the tour, but that would erase your record of having flown the legs you have flown thusfar. So that would probably only be an option if you have only just started the tour.
But then there is still the other three airports that really should be in your default scenery, Franz. It looks like there is a different problem with your install, I'm afraid. No clue as to what, though ...
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Hi guys in my FS9.1 I've: LFSD Lovgnic Ab (Dijon); LFSA Thise (Besancon); LFLL Saint Exupery (Lyon), but not LFDY, then I'll fly to LFCS Leognan-Saucats (Bordeaux) ;D
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Once you guys get there, let me know what FL thinks of landing at LFCS. It might be that it approves of landing there instead of LFDY ("parked at destination" status), but I am afraid it's a touch too far apart. In that case, if you file a manual PIREP, I will approve it manually, and that's it for the flight itself. At the end of the tour, there's another thing: I expect that, if FL does not accept your landing at LFCS as "at destination", that also the automatic award system will not recognise the tour as being finished.
Should that be the case, then shout out, and I'll see what I can do manually...
This goes only for those that have already assigned themselves the tour, and are flying FS9. So far, I think it's three pilots, so that is manageable manually ;)
Anybody assigning the tour today or later, will have LFCS in their dispatch - assigned flights.
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First of all I would like to wish you all a very good and healthy new year with lots of pleasant hours in the virtual sky.
As promised here's the Doodle link for our next online group flight, the third leg of the "Give a Taste to France" tour:
http://doodle.com/ks7ry9z6y8fytbaw (http://doodle.com/ks7ry9z6y8fytbaw)
and of course some files you might want to use to get from Rouen to Vatry:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/mfiob3p245crkhn/VFR%20Rouen-Vallee%20De%20Seine%20to%20Vatry_Xplane.zip?dl=0 (https://www.dropbox.com/s/mfiob3p245crkhn/VFR%20Rouen-Vallee%20De%20Seine%20to%20Vatry_Xplane.zip?dl=0)
Hope to meet you all on Mumble next week!
Peter
p.s. the Dropbox file looks to be for Xplane only, but that's not the case, I just forgot to change the filename.
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Next Wednesday the 7th of January 2015 at 20:00 H Zulu is scheduled for the third leg of the "Give a taste to France" tour from Rouen to Vatry. Study the route carefully, because we'll be flying close to the class A airspace of Paris and at any time we must avoid possible ATC to get angry.
Meet you all on Mumble!
Peter
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Copy that: Wednesday 7 at 20.00Z....Peter is right. Probably our ATC friend will be on line...and will "recognize" us...We must act as the professionals that we are this time ;)....
see you tomorrow!
Gian
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Hi Guys,
Bed-ridden for a couple of days now and not able to do what I'm doing now. Hopefully I feel a bit better for our next leg of the tour.
here's the Doodle-link: http://doodle.com/kbxya2pbbaw7vwed (http://doodle.com/kbxya2pbbaw7vwed)
and the info-files: https://www.dropbox.com/s/kdhbeajo91989ry/leg04%20LFOK-LFQO.zip?dl=0 (https://www.dropbox.com/s/kdhbeajo91989ry/leg04%20LFOK-LFQO.zip?dl=0)
Hope to meet you on Mumble!
Peter
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Could be to do with the weather Peter, warm and damp instead of cold and dry.
Hope your on the mend. ;)
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You're absolutely right, Trevor. . . and an attempt to restore the balance in the bodily fluids by increasing the spirits level in the blood, wasn't affective in the end. ;)
Peter
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Next Thursday the 15th of January at 20:00 H Zulu is scheduled for the fourth leg from Chalons-en-Champagne to Marc-en-Baroeul.
Meet you then on Mumble,
Peter
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Sorry to hear Mumble was down during the last group flight of yours... I wasn't aware of any problem or I would have fixed it then already.
All is working now, as far as I can tell :)
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No problem Eric, we "worked" like in the old days by text. Unfortunately my FS crashed down just five minutes before arriving and I disappeared without saying goodbye>:(
Gian
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Old fashioned communication during our flight last evening from Vatry to Marc-en-Baroeul. Old Fashioned problems too to get a steady connection to one of the IVAP servers. That's why we left Vatry one hour later than was planned, what reduced my fuel level to a halve. Enough though left to make this leg. Unfortunately Mumble was down, so we had to communicate by means of the IVAP chatbox, which makes manual flying almost impossible. Typing and flying are two things that don't really match. I think that's why they invented the autopilot... and the copilot, the latter had a day off BTW
I do a lot VFR flying and in most countries it's obvious if and when to contact ATC if online. In France it's a totally different matter. Whether they don't like those small, tiny planes of ours and prefer the ones that fly IFR, or they're just afraid of these four who show up every week on their screen. Fact is that after we make contact with ATC, they just send us back to Unicom.
a little example of the conversation between the four of us, to illustrate:
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PHPBG>I switch to ATC now
EHM2589>rgr
EHM2589>LFEE or LFFF
PHPBG>LFFF
EHM2589>rgr
PHPBG>D you don't have to make contact with ATC
EHM2589>ok
EHM2589>only 122.8
PHPBG>I tax to rw28 and yes only unicom
EHM2589>rgr
EHM1829>Hi folks I cant see you, so there is a prob
EHM2589>probably we will start right now T
PHPBG>hi T gladyou're back; try to connect to antoher IVAP server
EHM1829>ok have tried without luck, will just start flying and hope for best
EHM2589>ok
EHM1829>starting FLogger
PHPBG>at HP A4 rw 25
EHM2589>right now you're with us T -)
PHPBG>cannot see you on screen T, yet
EHM2589>I can see T right now
PHPBG>me too; perfect
PHPBG>are you ready T?
EHM2589>I mean EHM1829 -)
EHM2589>We're at h/p rwy27
EHM2589>pardon me rwy25
PHPBG>28 actually
EHM1829>ok folks
PHPBG>we'll wait for you
EHM2589>sorry, my fault, h/p rwy28
PHPBG>doesn't matter it's all in the same direction
EHM1829>on my way
PHPBG>In this particular case it means you'll be last T, for a change :}
EHM2589>yep -( -)
PHPBG>Sorry D
EHM1829>hahah
EHM2589>what a luck T -)
EHM2589>Gian is coming too -)
EHM2589>ça va Gian ?
PHPBG>It's a little bit confusing with French ATC; according to LFEE_ctr we don't have to contact LFF_CTR
EHM2589>ça va G, Mumble ne marche pas pour le moment
EHM2589>we're on the chatbox
EHM2589>only h/p rwy28 many problems
EHM2589>we will waiting for you -)
PHPBG>Hi Gian, welcom
PHPBG>OK Three in line waiting at A$ rw28
EHM2589>nous sommes dans le hold point rwy 28
PHPBG>A4 I meant
PHPBG>That's what I said... in English
PHPBG>or do you prefer French G?
EHM2589>first of all G, put .chat and then add all of us, think so
EHM2589>ok you got it -)
EHM2589>We're four right now -)
PHPBG>great; supperb
EHM1829>Hi PD&G
EHM1829>at long last i am ready
EHM2589>and number 2 for this one -)
EHM2589>the better is that you're with us T
PHPBG>I think my fuel tank is half empty now ;}
EHM1829>hahaha
EHM2589>ha ha ha ...
EHM1829>oil is half price
PHPBG>Sounds crazy "hahaha"we've never had that before; What happened to EJ's Mumble?
EHM2589>tomorrow have to leave early 06h30 -(
EHM1829>oops
PHPBG>Maybe I've to go back to the fuelstation...
EHM2589>that's what I'm second in this leg -)
EHM2589>Gian n'oublie pas FLogger...
EHM2589>have to put parking brake...
EHM1829>back in one min
EHM2589>t'en prie
EHM2589>many problem with server but we will see you, come to rwy 28
EHM1829>back
EHM2589>Me and T are in server 6 thnk so
EHM1829>rgr
PHPBG>OK, let's see what ATC (our beloved friends) is doing while we're on the way; lining up and take-off; happy flight nevertheless DG&T
EHM2589>ok guys we're ready
EHM1829>ready
EHM2589>yep thanks to you too
EHM2589>Gian is gone
EHM1829>he is back
PHPBG>airborne
EHM2589>thanks God
PHPBG>strong crosswind
EHM2589>yep very right strong wind
EHM2589>airborne
EHM1882>strange to fly silent:)
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In the meantime EJ did a great job, restoring Mumble (mine is working fine now). Thanks for that.
The links for the next flight of our tour:
http://doodle.com/dfbyz7deq8izygmg (http://doodle.com/dfbyz7deq8izygmg)
https://www.dropbox.com/s/gavest5rqcnmueq/leg05%20LFQO-LFRK.zip?dl=0 (https://www.dropbox.com/s/gavest5rqcnmueq/leg05%20LFQO-LFRK.zip?dl=0)
Meet you all on Mumble!
Peter
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Next Wednesday the 21st of January at 20:00H Zulu at Marc-en-Baroeul (LFQO) as departure airport for the fifth leg to Caen (LFRK).
Meet you all on Mumble (it's working again),
Peter
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I was a bit late last evening (sorry for that) and when I got online I noticed David and Gian just took off from Marc-en-Baroeul airport. Because I already had prepared my flight and my C182T Skylane was itching to start this fourth leg of the tour and with a little extra power, I caught up on them very quickly. ATC all the way (Paris_CTR, Brest_CTR) and in this case, for a change, they were very friendly and helpful. Under perfect VFR conditions we viewed some beautiful scenery along the coasts of Haute and Basse Normandie and of course the harbour of Le Havre. Around 10:30 H we arrived safely at our destination, Carpiquet airport, Caen.
Next leg of the tour goes from Caen (LFRK) to Poitiers (LFBI, Biard)
http://doodle.com/8zzyeb44n3aigyrv (http://doodle.com/8zzyeb44n3aigyrv)
https://www.dropbox.com/s/tehsl3pttpeek2s/leg06%20LFRK-LFBI.zip?dl=0 (https://www.dropbox.com/s/tehsl3pttpeek2s/leg06%20LFRK-LFBI.zip?dl=0)
Meet you all on Mumble,
Peter
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Sorry i missed the flight folks. I had headed north for two days then ended up booking accommodation for a second night.
And thanks Eric for sorting Mumble. ;)
T
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Not only did you miss the flight T. , what's even more important you missed the apres-vol! :'(
Cheers! Hope to see you back on Mumble next week,
Peter
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Leg06 from Caen to Poitiers will start next Wednesday the 28th of January at 20:00 H Z.
Meet you all on Mumble!
Peter
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I will be needing to shut down Mumble from Thursday on until over the weekend. The last bit of dry-walling and electrical stuff will then take place. We are out of the house from Thursday onward to not be in the way, and all power will be switched off during some time of that. To prevent this NAS from dying like my previous one, I am going to shut it down for that period of time. ;)
So that fits nicely with this flight :D
Have a good and safe flight!
P.S. Mumble will be up again Sunday evening, I hope.
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It took a while before we finally had a take-off clearance from Brest_CTR. Obvious he was very busy handling other traffic in the region, a Boeing had to divert to Carpiquet Caen airport and had priority to land first. Nevertheless waiting at the holdingpoint for about thirty minutes made it all very real.
To make the landing in Poitiers (Biard airport) a little bit more exiting (no ATC to prevent us from doing that) we tried a simultanious landing: Trevor on rw21L, David rw21 and I headed for rw21R. Unfortunately Gian had a FS crash not long after his departure. >:( Frustrating, but I hope it doesn't discourage you from flying agian next week. Besides there were only three runways available. :-[
It's a lot more difficult to fly in formation than you think. Furthermore it's almost impossible to make a final approach and take screenshots at the same time. We ought to practice this somewhat more in the future.
Nevertheless if you take your time to search for it, some screenshots below show Davids Piper and Trevors C172.
Here're the links for the next leg, leg07 to LFSD, Longvic Dijon.
http://doodle.com/epmqvkwefcskcgdq (http://doodle.com/epmqvkwefcskcgdq)
https://www.dropbox.com/s/3lc5io4l42vkncm/leg07%20LFBI-LFSD.zip?dl=0 (https://www.dropbox.com/s/3lc5io4l42vkncm/leg07%20LFBI-LFSD.zip?dl=0)
Meet you all on Mumble!
Peter
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The next leg, leg07 to LFSD, Longvic Dijon is planned for tomorrow, Wednesday the 4th of February at 20:00 H Z.
Meet you all tomorrow on Mumble!
Peter
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Hope this time FS will not betray me! I do not want to miss good wine testing in Dijon ;)
Gian
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I'll try to think of switching on my NAS again ;)
It's still off, so Mumble is not working a.t.m., at least until this evening.
Should I forget entirely, Peter: you have my email address - drop me a line, and I will most likely see it on my phone.
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Hi E.J. at the moment 1332 zulu doesn't work, I mean Mumble or Server, but I've a message: New version available. Version 1.2.8 is now released on sourceforge. Please go to SourceForge.net to download. Is necessary to install 1.2.8 or only server problem ??? Thanks :)
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Hi David,
I would wait with the new version until after this evening, just to be sure. I re-started the server yesterday evening (around 1800Z, I estimate), so I think it will all work fine now (Peter just confirmed that to me).
I don't think the new version will cause any issues, but just to be sure I would advise to stay with 1.2.7 for this evening, because that was a proven working situation. After this evening, you'll have a whole week to upgrade and see if it all works (and repair things if some-why things get broken ;) :P )
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Last evening we left Poitiers Biard at about 20:30 H. Trevor, David, Gian and me flew in formation from west to east and had a save landing in Dijon Longvic at 22:40 H. Although Bordeaux_CTR went online after we already left Poitiers, we didn't have to deal with that. We stayed low and out of classified airpsace. Along the way I tried to get close to each one of us to take some screenshots. The results are shown below.
Congratulations to Gian. Since a long time he could finish this flight without any problem with his Flight Simulator. Keep it up, Gian.
Here're the links for leg08 from Dijon to Amiens:
http://doodle.com/gqcf48z5zgfu7v2n (http://doodle.com/gqcf48z5zgfu7v2n)
https://www.dropbox.com/s/g2t80hg5j4szlz3/leg08%20LFSD-LFAY.zip?dl=0 (https://www.dropbox.com/s/g2t80hg5j4szlz3/leg08%20LFSD-LFAY.zip?dl=0)
Meet you all on Mumble!
Peter
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We will fly our next leg from Dijon to Amiens on the 12th of February at 20:00 H Z.
Meet you all on Mumble!,
Peter
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We didn't mention it last evening and actually we didn't notice it at all, but now I realize that Gian has obviously overcome the problems with his Flight Simulator. For the second time in a row he didn't encounter any problems. The four of us did, though not with the FS but with the weather on the way. From Dijon to Reims we had a clear sky, but after that fog, that became thicker and thicker as we approached Amiens. In real life flying impossible and very dangerous to do, but we had to land at Amiens (Real pilots in real life don't have to deal with something called Flightlogger). Only Trevor flew in a totally different world and reported "runway in sight" at 2.5 nm distance. The rest of us flew in a grey world. Nevertheless, thanks also to the lighting of the runway, we managed to get our planes down safely on a desolate airfield.
The pictures down below are a little differeent than the ones before.I tried some panoramic shots.
The links for the 9th leg from Amiens to Strasbourg:
http://doodle.com/bsvwp8f7mdi9af9y (http://doodle.com/bsvwp8f7mdi9af9y)
https://www.dropbox.com/s/wwsykbt71muenvg/leg09%20LFAY-LFGC.zip?dl=0 (https://www.dropbox.com/s/wwsykbt71muenvg/leg09%20LFAY-LFGC.zip?dl=0)
Meet you all on Mumble!
Peter
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Next Wednesday the 18th at 20:00 H Z I'll be waiting at Amiens airport with a fully prepared Cessna182T to fly our 9th leg of the tour to Strasbourg.
Meet you all on Mumble!
Peter
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Sorry folks, I missed the hop yesterday. I flew it early this morning, just to catch up. See you hopefully next week!
Gian
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Dense fog at Amiens made us (Trevor, David and me) decide to change our flightplan from VFR to IFR. At 9000 ft the world looked a lot clearer. Strasbourg Tower showed up on the screen long before we reached our destination. The poor guy had to wait a long time untill he could guid us in. Probably fell asleep while waiting for three of those light aircrafts that were crossing the north of France from west to east.
The links for our next leg: leg10 from Starsbourg (LFGC) to Thise (LFSA).
http://doodle.com/svqb4w4bhqbp4a4x (http://doodle.com/svqb4w4bhqbp4a4x)
https://www.dropbox.com/s/02hsanmq2fvvef3/leg10%20LFGC-LFSA.zip?dl=0 (https://www.dropbox.com/s/02hsanmq2fvvef3/leg10%20LFGC-LFSA.zip?dl=0)
Meet you all on Mumble!
Peter
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Nice pictures as usual, Peter! :D
The double-width make them so much harder to view, through... I need to use the scroll bars to see the right halves.
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On Wednesday the 28th of February at 20:00 H Zulu[/b ] we'll continu our French tour and fly from Strasbourg to Besancon in the Comte.
Meet you all on Mumble!
Peter
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Sorry Peter, Wednesday 25 or Saturday 28 ??? thanks :-[
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Sorry, must be the old age ;D.... It's of course next wednesday the 25th of February!
Meet you on Mumble!
Peter
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Just back from a trip of a few days, I give you the links for our next flight from Besancon to Clermont-Ferrand in the Auvergne:
http://doodle.com/z6thf7szuizb9wvq (http://doodle.com/z6thf7szuizb9wvq)
https://www.dropbox.com/s/bqc5k1ntd8hhhka/leg11%20LFSA-LFLC.zip?dl=0 (https://www.dropbox.com/s/bqc5k1ntd8hhhka/leg11%20LFSA-LFLC.zip?dl=0)
Hope to meet you all on Mumble some time next week!
Peter
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Leg11 from Besancon to Clermont-Ferrand is scheduled for tomorrow evening the 4th of March at 20:00 H Zulu.
Meet you on Mumble!
Peter
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It's amazing, but after having flown eleven legs through mainly the Northern part of France, we - that is Trevor, Gian, David and me -must admit that French controllers do have a problem with us. One of the main attractions of flying online is of course having to deal with ATC. Most of the time, when we login IVAO, we see that there's ATC on line in the region we fly in. But for some reason, as soon as we are airborne, Control, Approach or Tower disappear from the screen, as if they know we're coming. That raises the question: are they scared of us or aren't they familiar or happy dealing with VFR flights? Because, in my opinion, we're very nice and polite guys, I think the latter is the case. But luckily there're still French controllers who haven't heard of us; Clermont-Ferrand approach, tower and dispatch were online when we left Besancon. While we were on our way, one after the other disappeared from the screen, but two new, ignorent controllers showed up just before we reached their airspace. They did guid us in, but unfortunately without using the appropriate VFR vocabulary. Clermont-Ferrand Tower threw in the towel after the first one had landed, without any notice. Very disappointing.
Disappointing also for Gian who had to cut off his flight in the beginning because of a malfunctioning headset. Hopefully next week this problem will be solved.
Below you'll find the links for our next leg: leg12 from Cleremont-Ferrand to St.Denis-de l'Hotel.
Meet you all on Mumble!
Peter
http://doodle.com/a3t2f9rwwgeevh7k (http://doodle.com/a3t2f9rwwgeevh7k)
https://www.dropbox.com/s/ygc35hhk9zvn6lm/leg12%20LFLC-LFOZ.zip?dl=0 (https://www.dropbox.com/s/ygc35hhk9zvn6lm/leg12%20LFLC-LFOZ.zip?dl=0)
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As I said last evening after our experiences with French ATC, I've placed a message on IVAO's forum, where controllers complaint about the behavior of pilots who deliberately disconnect from IVAP to avoid ATC.
If you're curious, you can read and follow this thread via this link (you have to login with VID and webpassword first): http://forum.ivao.aero/index.php?topic=243384.90 (http://forum.ivao.aero/index.php?topic=243384.90)
Peter
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Wednesday the 11th of March at 20:00 H Zulu we'll be at LFLC - Clermont-Ferrand Airport, waiting for all of you to show up to fly our 12th leg of the tour to LFOZ - Orleans.
Meet you all on Mumble!
Peter
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Hi, question.
How long do we have the time to fly this tour?
From wich date will this tour placed as 'closed'?
Kind Regards,
Timo / EHM-2488
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Hallo Timo,
This tour is part of the nineteen tours that are available in the operiations section and as far as I know it will remain available all the time. So you can start and finish it whenever you want.
Peter
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That is correct, Peter. In principle, all tours remain assignable. Once they have been on the board for several years, no-one is actively flying a certain tour, and a replacement tour is added, it might be that a tour is removed from the board (de-activated; always possible to re-activate later).
If you assign yourself the tour, you will find all legs in sequence added to your assignments (you can still fly other assigned flights, alternating between them and the tour). You can only assign one tour at a time, and you need to fly the tour legs in sequence.
These guys you read about here, have all started the tour when it was published, so it gets the idea of a series of online group flights (which of course adds to the fun factor ;) )
So if you would want to join them, you would need to start the tour from the first leg, and "catch up". You can, of course also just start the tour, and fly it at your own pace, either online, or offline. Using Flight Logger will very much ease the administrative work involved ;)
The "time limited" tours are called Events. Typically each leg then gets a 2-week window of time to be flown in, all legs nominally spaced 1 week apart. We play around a bit with the time frames to allow for holidays, and such. There's no active Event at the moment. There will be, probably somewhere in the May timeframe. Ideas are welcome per PM, facebook, email ;)
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Ok, nice system, great job! I take the challenge. I'm excited to join the tour. ;)
It's not my habitude to join tours, but it's time to change that vision from now. ;D
Kind Regards,
Timo
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In spite of my problems with Mumble and later on with FSX, we managed to get in Orleans in one piece last evening, doing our 12th leg of this tour and succeeded to get some screenshots after all.
At St.Denis de l'Hotel airport in Orleans we were welcomed by an Airbus, who gave us a scrary show of how to handle a plane before landing. Finally he did land and placed his aircraft in a intimidate manner right in front of us. "Bienvenu a Orleans"!
Here're the links for our next flight from Orleans to Metz:
http://doodle.com/cpc7xgn38gbeccpf (http://doodle.com/cpc7xgn38gbeccpf)
https://www.dropbox.com/s/z02qzgo2twnea8y/leg13%20LFOZ-LFJL.zip?dl=0 (https://www.dropbox.com/s/z02qzgo2twnea8y/leg13%20LFOZ-LFJL.zip?dl=0)
Meet you all on Mumble!
Peter
p.s. and Timo, you're more than welcome to join us online to fly this tour together.
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Nice ones again, Peter!
Is that a Garmin GTN-750 is see in your cockpit?
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GTN750 from Flight1?
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That's right, guys. I'm the proud owner of Flight1 's GTN750 GPS fully integrated in my C182 Skylane ....and it's a beauty! Especially handy when it comes to VFR flying.
Peter
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You cant hide money Peter. ;D
The aerobatics by the Airbus 340 Pilot was something to behold, Pic 3. 8)
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I'll go have a look over at Flight1 then. In "my" airplane, I have the low-height version, GTN-650, which is effectively the same except for the need for some vertical scrolling (which is no problem with it's touchscreen). Hadn't seen either for FS before ;D
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Next Wednesday the 18th of March at 20:00 Hr Z is scheduled for our next leg from Orleans to Metz.
Meet you all on Mumble!
Peter
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Actually not the best conditions for flying VFR. In real life, I think, a pilot wouldn't have to hesitate to make the decision whether to take his plane out or not. A thick cloudlayer at 1000ft AGL and fog however didn't prevent us, daredevils as we are, to start our 13th leg of this tour through France. No ATC on our way to prevent us doing so. Further more we knew that after the Troyes VOR the fog would have disappeared and that the weather conditions at our destination were excellent.
Around 10:30 Hr we arrived safely in Metz and were a bit surprised to hear a new voice on Mumble. Timo joined us and showed us a beautiful new paint for the A2a Cessna172, he almost had finished. Nice job, Timo. I particular solicit the favour of a Euroharmony livery for the A2A C182T.
I hope some more Euroharmony pilots take Timo's example and join us on Mumble. Let's keep Euroharmony and online flying alive!
For our next flight, leg14, from Metz to Lyon, here're the links:
http://doodle.com/qfps7c4t6b5w876q (http://doodle.com/qfps7c4t6b5w876q)
https://www.dropbox.com/s/3xmf64eynr6ynsy/leg14%20LFJL-LFLL.zip?dl=0 (https://www.dropbox.com/s/3xmf64eynr6ynsy/leg14%20LFJL-LFLL.zip?dl=0)
Meet you all on Mumble!
Peter
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Hi Peter & co. Thanks for the pleasant welcome. When possible by my job, you will see me more online at the 'Current Flights'-map & Mumble. Was a nice and relax community-feeling at Mumble. Some moments I'm offline bussy with painting, some other moments I'm bussy to fly cargo, business & GA-jobs online at FSCloud.net (http://FSCloud.net). I look out to meet more EHM-pilots at Mumble and hope also to get more Belgian pilots back again active in the EHM-community in the future.
Kind Regards,
See You Soon,
Timo / EHM-2488
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Sofar as I know, this might be the first time we cann't schedule this next leg of the tour. Unfortunately I'm only available for next wednesday, while David obviously for next Thirsday. I suggest we fly this one on our own and I will inform you at the latest next friday about leg 15.
Meet you all on Mumble!
Peter
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No worries Peter, see you all next week. ;)
T
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rgr see you next week guys ;)
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Here're the links for our next flight, leg15: from Lyon-LFLL to Toulouse-LFCL)
The Doodle-link: http://doodle.com/e46xtw4szgbis642 (http://doodle.com/e46xtw4szgbis642) (Summertime begins sunday the 29th of March)
Amsterdam (Netherlands) dinsdag, 31 maart 2015, 21:00:00 CEST UTC+2 hours
Edinburgh (United Kingdom - Scotland) dinsdag, 31 maart 2015, 20:00:00 BST UTC+1 hour
Corresponding UTC (GMT) dinsdag, 31 maart 2015, 19:00:00
charts and flightplan: https://www.dropbox.com/s/5qyb0u5z3rkp1b2/leg15%20LFLL-LFCL.zip?dl=0 (https://www.dropbox.com/s/5qyb0u5z3rkp1b2/leg15%20LFLL-LFCL.zip?dl=0)
Meet you all on Mumble!
Peter
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We had a Major power-out in the Netherlands today (Friday), which meant I had to reset Mumble. I only just did that, so if any of you was trying to connect earlier today: problems are now solved ;)
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Hi Peter, along this way I want to thank you for this beautiful tour and the available info for each leg & airport. Very helpfull. Like it to fly it in my awesome C172.
By this posting bussy on the leg LFOP (Rouen/Vallee De Seine) towards LFOK (Vatry AB)
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Hello fellow partners of the gastronomical tour!
I had some computer problems which prevented me flying for the last two weeks...consequence: I'm a hop behind now >:( I'll try to fly the leg to LFLL to day and hopefully join you on Tuesday 31 at 21.00 on Mumble for our leg to Toulouse (I have ordered a good cassoulet which will be waiting for us downthere;).
Hope everything will work well with my PC and headset!
A mardi!
Gian
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Glad you're enjoying the tour, Timo.
Hope to meet you again on Mumble soon.
Peter
Btw.. any news on the livery you were working on? I'm curious to see how it looks like!
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Our next flight is scheduled for next Thursday the 2nd of April at 19:00 h Zulu. Hope you can make that too, Gian and of course anyone else who likes to fly along with us.
Meet you all on Mumble!
Peter
To go with the cassoulet:
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Bouillabaisse en Marseille.
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The links for our next flight: leg16 from Toulouse to Limoges:
http://doodle.com/dcakeuiapu2vihyy (http://doodle.com/dcakeuiapu2vihyy)
https://www.dropbox.com/s/0xn12kjpumozptl/leg16%20LFCL-LFBL.zip?dl=0 (https://www.dropbox.com/s/0xn12kjpumozptl/leg16%20LFCL-LFBL.zip?dl=0)
Meet you all on Mumble!
Peter
p.s. unfortunately no screenshots of our arrival, due to an "Out of Memory"-problem on my computer. To much scenery and to much traffic I suppose...!
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Wednesday the 8th of April at 19:00 Hrs Zulu for our next fligh, leg16 from Toulouse to Limoges. A short one. Nevertheless be prepared, Toulouse controllers are online very often.
Meet you all on Mumble!
Peter
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Not the most fascinating flight of this tour. At least as the scenery is concerned. Nevertheless we did enjoy ourselves, some even more than others, during this short leg and landed safely in Limoges. All four of us!
The links for our next flight: Leg17 from Limoges (LFBL) to Rennes (LFRN):
http://doodle.com/se6777xyvpph9nci (http://doodle.com/se6777xyvpph9nci)
https://www.dropbox.com/s/gj7kl1uvs39ouh4/leg17%20LFBL-LFRN.zip?dl=0 (https://www.dropbox.com/s/gj7kl1uvs39ouh4/leg17%20LFBL-LFRN.zip?dl=0)
Meet you all on Mumble!
Peter
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Next flight will take us up north again from Limoges to Rennes. From there on we fly south bound only. Hope to meet you next Thursday the 16th of April at 19:00 H Z.
Meet you all on Mumble!
Peter
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Copy that ;)
see you all on Thursday
Gian
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After seventeen legs flying in France, I think ATC is getting used to us four. If we had the idea that they, for some dark reason, tried to avoid us, yesterday evening Rennes approach and tower certainly proved otherwise. Friendly and thorough they guided us in and - as Trevor rightly noticed - in proper English too.
Still we've got four legs to go. Hopefully French ATC stays focussed.
The links for leg18: LFRN (Rennes) to Bordeaux Yvrac (LFDY):
https://www.dropbox.com/s/0qmkgmkkdyuhfjr/leg18%20LFRN-LFDY.zip?dl=0 (https://www.dropbox.com/s/0qmkgmkkdyuhfjr/leg18%20LFRN-LFDY.zip?dl=0)
http://doodle.com/h79uif7p7znu8739 (http://doodle.com/h79uif7p7znu8739)
Meet you all on Mumble!
Peter
p.s. afb06: Trevor ordered a fueltruck right after arrival. I wonder what kind of fuel?
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Knowing Trevor a bit ... I think I know what's in that truck. ;D ;D
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Knowing Trevor a bit... I know what's in that truck. ;D ;D ;)
T
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The links for leg18: LFRN (Rennes) to Bordeaux Yvrac (LFDY):
Hi Peter what about for FS9 Scenery, no LFDY airport. LFCS or LFBD ???
Thanks and hope to fly together and landing at the same airport... maybe Wednesday 22.
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Neither David, I made a mistake to mention LFDY, because as some in the early days of this tour noticed already, it doesn't exist in FS9. It must be LFCS, Bordeaux Saucats at the southwest of LFBD.
By the way, we'll fly next wednesday the 22nd of April at 19:00h Zulu.
Meet you all on Mumble!
Peter
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Though Gian's name appeared on the Mumble screen, unfortunately we didn't hear from him during the whole flight from Rennes to Bordeaux. In spite of his little knowledge of the English language, as he texted us a few times, the controller on Rennes tower did his utmost to help us leave his zone in a proper manner. Around 10:30 PM Zulu we reached the small airfield of Bordeaux Saucats.
The links for our next leg from Bordeaux (LFCS) to Montpellier Candillargues (LFNG):
http://doodle.com/8uykrrpivw3yfh3w (http://doodle.com/8uykrrpivw3yfh3w)
https://www.dropbox.com/s/anpe2xmu7vrob63/leg19%20LFCS-LFNG.zip?dl=0 (https://www.dropbox.com/s/anpe2xmu7vrob63/leg19%20LFCS-LFNG.zip?dl=0)
Meet you all on Mumble!
Peter
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Indeed, I was ready to start (I was in fact the first to be connected on Mumble), but had again problems with FS and gave up.....leaving my computer open and forgetting to exit Mumble! That was my way somehow, to participate (silently) to the flight!
Hope better chance next week.
Cheers,
Gian
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Hope to meet you guys next Wednesday evening the 29th of April at 19:00 h Z for our next flight from Bordeaux to Montpellier.
Peter
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Leg19 took us four from the west (Bordeaux) to the south east (Montpellier) in the Languedoc-Rousillon on the coast of the Mediterranean. A short-term encounter with Montpellier tower was all the ATC we met during this flight.
We already noticed several times, in the foregoing legs, that one of us was flying in a completely different univers. Contrasting weather conditions and as the picture he took shows, confusing GA planes used by Gian and David with large Airbuses. Wondering what he'll see during our forelast leg to Corse. ::)
To prepare for leg21 to LFKJ (Campo dell'Oro) you might need files from the following link:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/0spzdtxknptscah/leg20%20LFNG-LFKJ.zip?dl=0 (https://www.dropbox.com/s/0spzdtxknptscah/leg20%20LFNG-LFKJ.zip?dl=0)
and to join us:
http://doodle.com/6gwt2u9gwp7cdy59 (http://doodle.com/6gwt2u9gwp7cdy59)
Meet you all on Mumble!
Peter
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I'll be back next Wednesday the 6th of May at 19:00 H Z to fly the 21st and forelast leg of our tour.
Meet you all on Mumble!
Peter
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Hi folks, missed the flight due to slight Probs with internet connection here in Holland.
My son is connected via KPN; it was down from 11:00am yesterday till
17:15 to-day, no worries, will have it complete in the next couple of days. ;)
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All worked fine for David and me last evening. So just the two of us made the 21st leg of the tour to Campo dell'Oro on Corsica.
Because of the fact that I'm away from home and my home computer I'm unable to give you the screenshots I made.. I'll be back next week and hope to give you the Doodle-link around the 14th for our last leg to Marseille.
Till then,
Peter
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Ok Peter enjoy the Holiday. ;)
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Although it was more than a week ago, I won't withhold you the screenshots I made during the forelast leg from Montpellier to Campo dell'Oro on Corse, a flight that David and I made together. Since then I spend a very pleasant holiday with nice weather, which puts me in a optimal condition to undertake the last leg of this tour from Corse to Marseille. Hopefully you guys will join.
The links for leg21: LFKJ-LFML:
http://doodle.com/8htyv5cyeder4zhi (http://doodle.com/8htyv5cyeder4zhi)
https://www.dropbox.com/s/21hyu5vnswmk881/leg21%20LFKJ-LFML.zip?dl=0 (https://www.dropbox.com/s/21hyu5vnswmk881/leg21%20LFKJ-LFML.zip?dl=0)
Meet you all on Mumble!
Peter
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The last leg of this tour will take place on Wednesday the 20th of May at 19:00 H Z.
Meet you all on Mumble!
Peter
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Our final flight of this "Gastronomical Tour" in France started on Corse, Campo dell'Oro, Ajaccio with a little surprise: a "new (online) kid on the block" joined us, namely Bruce. Unfortunately, for some unknown reason, he disappeared from the screen halfway Marseille. Nevertheless he's visible on the 4th screenshot, while we're waiting to take-off. Too bad also that Gian wasn't with us on this memorable flight.
The first three shots show how beautiful the island of Corse is. A few hours before I made a small trip around the island.
Though we had to deal with lots of different qualified traffic controllers during this entire tour, Marseille_App surely did show us how to guid VFR-flights in. A pleasant closure of a tour I loved to fly together with Trevor, David and Gian. Thanks guys.
So I've got almost two weeks time to prepare myself and my aircraft for our next adventure: Alaska, The Final Frontier. Still have to make up my mind about which plane to use.
Meet you all on Mumble!
Peter
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Thanks Peter, and the rest of the guys for the company and chat over the course of the tour. ;D
Looking forward to the Alaska event, and hope a few more pilots will be able to sign-up. ;)
Nice Pictures as usual Peter; thanks again
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Hi guys, sorry for the drop out last night, ivap crashed me to desk top, since i downloaded the last upgrade l have no end of problems with it going CTD on me will have to try and reload it see if something is not ok with, that's why l spend my time on Vastsim as i get no probs with that, anyway see you all soon in the cool summer of Alaska Regards Bruce EHM2131
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Hello Peter, David and Trevor,
It's pity I missed the last hop of the gastronomical adventure! I flew it this morning, "for the honour". This time for sure, Trevor could not see me in my beuatiful Airbus ;)
Again, many thanks Peter for your screenshots all along the tour and your involvement in organizing it. I am keen to be on line for the first leg of the Alaska Adventure with all of you and anyone who will be joinging us.
Cheers
Gian
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No worries, Gian. See you on our first leg of the Alaska event. Keep an eye on this forum thread, where I'll place the Doodle-link next week.
Peter