Post by: EHM-2387 Eric-Jan on October 03, 2013, 10:45:14 am
I'dd like to invite you all in flying together online next week, if you're willing to explore a part of my beautiful country. I planned a one and a half hour during trip that starts in Lelystad (EHLE), next to EHGG, and via the Dutch islands ends on Texel airport (EHTX).
Be sure to install the sceneries and airports that can be obtained (for free) through this link: http://www.nl-2000.com/nuke/ (http://www.nl-2000.com/nuke/) and prepare a CESSNA172 or simular aircraft for this touristic flight over Holland.
If you're interested, sign in on this Doodle-link: http://www.doodle.com/5bm4eqth632wi3z5 (http://www.doodle.com/5bm4eqth632wi3z5)
Hope to meet you on Mumble!
Peter
Post by: EHM-2387 Eric-Jan on October 03, 2013, 10:46:16 am
Awesome idea! I've signed up for all days next week, except Thursday (have to go to school that evening) so let's see who else is available Cheesy
Lots of restricted or danger areas around the northern islands, though. It's a military testing and training ground (sea). They are activated by NOTAM, so please check www.notams.nl (http://www.notams.nl) to see if they are active or not (not nice to have a ground-to-air missile on your six Shocked ). IVAO controllers might just
Charts can be found at the Dutch AIS: http://www.ais-netherlands.nl/aim/ (http://www.ais-netherlands.nl/aim/)
Mijnd the Schiphol TMA, which is class A 1500ft and up!
Post by: EHM-2589 David on October 03, 2013, 11:49:27 am
Post by: EHM-2758 Peter on October 03, 2013, 12:37:19 pm
It's more than likely that we will encounter ATC on our way, that makes it more realistic. Pay attention to the different max. flylevels and restricted aereas!
If needed I can provide you with a full discription of the route, including some landmarks that can be useful for orientation. Just let me know!
Hope to meet you on Mumble next week,
Peter
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/49798753/WingsOverHolland-EHM.rar
Post by: EHM-2589 David on October 03, 2013, 03:43:49 pm
Post by: EHM-2758 Peter on October 03, 2013, 04:40:26 pm
If I've seen it wright, you'll be flying a Beech Baron; you'll probably have to fly with reduced speed: the one I'll be using has a cruisespeed of 110 kts. But then again, you won't be last at our destination ;).
Meet you on Mumble next week!
Peter
Post by: EHM-2589 David on October 03, 2013, 05:31:09 pm
Specifications
Fuel Capacity: 72 gal/182 l
Stall Speed: 53 kts (dirty)
Max TAS: 145 kts
Cruise TAS: 137 kts (75% power)
Cruise Range: 880 nm/1630 km (with 45 min reserve)
Service Ceiling: 16,200 ft (100 fpm)/3,353 m
Rate of Climb: 649 fpm
See you then :)
Post by: EHM-2758 Peter on October 06, 2013, 07:39:06 am
Meet you then on Mumble!
Peter
Post by: EHM-2387 Eric-Jan on October 06, 2013, 01:16:28 pm
Post by: EHM-2589 David on October 06, 2013, 09:43:25 pm
Post by: EHM-2387 Eric-Jan on October 07, 2013, 07:51:33 am
[EDIT]
I'll see if I am able to catch up with my PPL theory before 1900Z, otherwise I might have to cancel on this one (with pain in my heart, mind you!).
I have the last class session of "Aircraft General Knowledge / Principles of Flight" tomorrow before my exam, and I still have some 150 pages to work through. Not too difficult, but a lot.
So let's see how far I get. Alternative could be for me to do EHLE-DCT-EHTX, if I am only a little later; we'll see.
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Post by: EHM-2589 David on October 09, 2013, 01:13:03 pm
Post by: EHM-2758 Peter on October 10, 2013, 09:27:00 am
Hopefully we'll have a next "Wings over...." next week. ;) In the meantime everyone who wants to join these flights, don't hesitate and join us... it's a lot of fun!
Meet you on Mumble!
Peter
Post by: EHM-2387 Eric-Jan on October 10, 2013, 03:13:07 pm
I saw Gian took the risky route over Oldebroek Firing Range ;) and you guys were approaching Drachten airport at that time. From Peter's post I read that you headed North soon after that.
Did you contact Amsterdam Radar?
I bet you had a great flight, especially with the NL-2000 scenery (I have the same; takes quite a while to get it installed, though).
OK, I'm off to Hilversum now. See yáll in virtual skies :)
Post by: EHM-2758 Peter on October 10, 2013, 03:40:54 pm
I hope to see you next week again, E-J and hopefully Gian or David is providing us with a nice route!
Meet you on Mumble!
Peter
Post by: EHM-2589 David on October 11, 2013, 12:27:50 pm
Post by: EHM-2758 Peter on October 11, 2013, 01:00:35 pm
Peter
p.s. no snowy landscapes yet unfortunately ;)
Post by: EHM-2387 Eric-Jan on October 11, 2013, 02:42:44 pm
Post by: EHM-2589 David on October 11, 2013, 09:50:44 pm
Yellow line 5500 - 7500' more and less
Green line 9500 - 11500'
Post by: EHM-2589 David on October 12, 2013, 08:52:26 pm
And other info:
Preferential runway system LSGS - Sion
Runway 25 for landings and departures with tailwind components up to 10 kts. Otherwise, runway 07 will be used. Be aware of the high terrain!
Preferential runway system LSZR - Altenrhein
Landing rwy 10 for all IFR traffic and rwy 28 for VFR. Departure rwy 28 for all acft, with tailwind components of up to 5 kts. Otherwise, runway 10 will be used.
VFR
In Switzerland there is no airspace ALPHA, BRAVO and FOXTROTT.
Airspace G:
Note that the GOLF airspace may go all through the ECHO airspace, as 2000ft AGL can be higher than FL130.
And in attachment 2 docs for dep and app VFR
Post by: EHM-1882 Gian on October 13, 2013, 05:37:24 pm
I'm also studying one in the French Alps for the following week). More news to come...
Looking forward to see the pictures!
Gian
Post by: EHM-2387 Eric-Jan on October 13, 2013, 07:42:21 pm
I have just set it all up, so that it won't take me too long Tuesday evening to get started. Excellent preparation work too, David! Helpful charts and such. I guess we'll stick to class G airspace hurdling down the valley ;D. Get aerodrome info from ATC, and maybe a landing clearance at destination, so not much to worry about there for anyone thinking of joining us ;)
See you on Tuesday online!
Post by: EHM-2589 David on October 13, 2013, 08:02:37 pm
Final decision for tomorrow :)
Post by: EHM-2589 David on October 14, 2013, 08:18:17 am
VFR Departure
Before each flight it is requested to file a flight plan or a flight notification
For aircraft on VFR departure, it is not compulsory to ask for switching on the engine, except in case of a joining IFR is planned with the control area of Geneva (flight plan Z). Proceed as instructed by Sion Ground on 121.7000 MHz towards the holding point of the runway in use. It is not allowed to cross the runway towards holding point 07 unless authorized by Sion Ground Control.
Before departure, transmit the exit route (crossing W or E1).
Sion Tower (118.275MHz) and Ground Sion (121.700MHz) frequencies can be coupled. If the authorization for takeoff is received on the Ground frequency, the pilot should switch over Tower Frequency on his own after takeoff. After departure, leave the CTR while keeping to the right of the valley and announce crossing or E1. Do not confuse E1 with E2. E2 (the village of St. Leonard) is nearer the airport than E1 (the town of Sierre).
In pdf.doc final chart to Sion and see you all of you Tuesday 15.10.13 at 18:55 zulu time.
Suggestion VFR flight plan for IVAP (daytime simulation): Sion – Chalais – Sierre – Turtmand – Brigue – Ulrichen – Andermatt – Tujetsch – Muster – Trun – Glion – Chur – Eigias - Bad Ragaz – Buchs – Oberriet – Altenrhein. (1h15') with Cessna 172 SP, PA28R or another similar if someone like to join us ;) we will happy to fly together :)
Post by: EHM-2758 Peter on October 14, 2013, 08:23:44 am
Meet you on Mumble,
Peter
Post by: EHM-1882 Gian on October 14, 2013, 07:38:47 pm
Have a nice flight to morrow!
Gian
Post by: EHM-2589 David on October 15, 2013, 09:07:13 am
Another flight-plan, but simplified: (Exit route E1 and follow Rhone and Rhine rivers until Lake Constance) ;D
Post by: EHM-2387 Eric-Jan on October 15, 2013, 09:43:13 am
:P
Post by: EHM-2387 Eric-Jan on October 15, 2013, 07:58:05 pm
Post by: EHM-2589 David on October 15, 2013, 08:11:11 pm
Post by: EHM-2589 David on October 16, 2013, 07:47:07 am
This is the new Doodlehttp://doodle.com/z68ck38zzcu8ddic (http://doodle.com/z68ck38zzcu8ddic) and pay attention because local time will change Sunday 27 (-1h winter time) See you the week after and who knows maybe with snow near our route ;)
Post by: EHM-2387 Eric-Jan on October 16, 2013, 08:54:56 pm
I was really looking forward to it; had all the charts printed, airplane already set up at LSGS. I saved the flight as such, so it's a good thing you postponed the flight for two weeks. I probably will be able to make it this time.
Post by: EHM-2758 Peter on October 18, 2013, 08:08:14 am
Looking forward to it.
Meet you on Mumble,
Peter
Post by: EHM-2581 Dirk on October 23, 2013, 08:42:01 am
Fact of the matter is I did miss this event and would have partaken. Please do something similar again, soon, please
Dirk
Post by: EHM-2387 Eric-Jan on October 23, 2013, 11:51:30 am
http://doodle.com/z68ck38zzcu8ddic (http://doodle.com/z68ck38zzcu8ddic)
Post by: EHM-2589 David on October 27, 2013, 09:11:14 pm
Flight-plan simplified for IVAP: (Exit route E2 / E1 [it depends ATC] and follow Rhone and Rhine rivers until Lake Constance) See you then :)
Post by: EHM-2589 David on October 29, 2013, 03:18:30 pm
Post by: EHM-2758 Peter on October 30, 2013, 09:16:11 am
Thanks again for this beautiful flight David, and I surely hope next week to fly in a different but equally nice part of the sky!
Meet you on Mumble!
Peter
Post by: EHM-2387 Eric-Jan on October 30, 2013, 03:46:32 pm
I took the opportunity to use this flight as a benchmark for how well the DA-20 model of Aerosoft (KatanaX) models the performance of "my" plane (Aquila A210). I made a performance planning (time / distance / altitude / fuel burn) based on the actual POH of my own airplane, which is rather similar to the DA-20. Airspeeds for the DA-20 should be 5 - 10% lower with the same power settings, so I expected to take a little longer than planned. But much to my surprise, When I started my descend after 01:17 of flight, and tried my best to stay on the planned descend rate, I seemed to exactly touch ground at LSZR. It's that I thought I had to slow down at reporting point S, to go fly 80 KIAS with flaps 1, so it eventually took me 4 minutes longer than planned. I also used up only 25 liters of fuel, where I had planned 29 liters. Maybe the DA-20 was running a bit lean? But then I would not get an engine failure from carb icing at 5000 ft (7 °C AOT), since leaning too much makes the engine run hotter... Ah, well, I don't know. What I do know is that the performance figures were actually pretty accurate, and I am happy with that. The flight characteristics are reasonably similar (a touch less responsive to control inputs), so the KatanaX is a good FSX alternative for as long as there is no sophisticated Aquila model available yet, for practicing circuits, cross-wind landings, and now also navigation exercises :D