Post by: EHM-1465 Dominic on April 28, 2010, 11:49:03 am
The next ProPilot Event is coming...
Within the next two weeks, you can sign up for the adventure of a lifetime to see some of the hottest spots on earth!!
Following the huge losses that the volcanic ash drifting south and east from Iceland caused to many airlines, a scientific and technical taskforce is being organized to assess the risk of such events on a worldwide scale and propose countermeasures or at least steps to mitigate the effects of ash plumes.
A major contrast was noticed between the British Airways 747 that was first involved in such an incident, which got all 4 engines clogged with molten ash, and the aircraft sent purposely to fly into the Icelandic ash cloud, which reported no significant problems. This proves the phenomenon deserves a deeper analysis.
The task force will have to visit a series of active volcanoes throughout the world, which are considered the most dangerous for aviation activities. And to carry the teams and their scientific equipment around the globe... well, you guessed it, Eurocargo's Boeing 747-400F was chosen...
To register your interest in this Event, please add your name to this thread. We'll be releasing further details soon ;)
[EDIT] Published the event page, check for the route and schedule (select "Pilots" > "Events" in the main menu).
Post by: EHM-2387 Eric-Jan on April 28, 2010, 03:49:08 pm
Too bad I am seriously limited in flying time this part of the year, so I'm afraid I won't get to go fly with the geeks.
You all have loads of fun, though!
Post by: EHM-1829 Trevor on April 28, 2010, 04:15:10 pm
Hi Dominic
Looking forward to this new adventure 8)
Please sign me up
Cheers
EHM-1829 Trevor
Post by: EHM-2121 Christopher on April 28, 2010, 06:33:42 pm
EHM2121 - Christopher
Post by: EHM-1001 Robert on April 30, 2010, 06:07:21 pm
Post by: EHM-2097 Andrei on May 01, 2010, 11:51:58 pm
Too bad I joined EHM just a little too late for the last Formula1 event 3 years ago, I won't miss this one too.
Andrei - EHM2097
Post by: EHM-2387 Eric-Jan on May 03, 2010, 09:32:08 am
http://www.gcmap.com/mapui?PATH=EGLL-LGSA-FZNA-OYHD-WIMM-RPLC-RJFK-UHPP-PANC-PHTO-KPDX-MMPB-SKCL-SPQU-LPLA-BIKF-EGLL%0D%0A&RANGE=&PATH-COLOR=blue&PATH-UNITS=nm&PATH-MINIMUM=&MARKER=1&SPEED-GROUND=&SPEED-UNITS=kts&RANGE-STYLE=shaded&RANGE-COLOR=green&MAP-STYLE=
I've had another look at flying this tour, but I don't see SPQU-LPLA happening on a weeknight for me ;D. Apart from that, I'll be on holiday during the final legs...
So again: Have fun!
Eric-Jan
Post by: EHM-1465 Dominic on May 03, 2010, 09:52:03 am
For those who haven't noticed yet, the EVENT PAGE (http://www.fly-euroharmony.com/site/events.htm) is now live with full details of the event legs and dates.
Please have a look there for full details and post any queries or new registrations here ;)
Post by: RCortez on May 04, 2010, 12:09:36 am
I'm very interested to participate in the Volcano Scientific Study Event, but I've a troubleshooting Internet connection. Is possible to participate off-line? I mean, report the flights by the Logger. By the way I'm newbie and I really appreciate if is possible to participate in the past events like Formula One 2007?
Thanks for your response :)
Post by: EHM-1465 Dominic on May 04, 2010, 11:37:08 am
All ProPilot Events are run on the basis that you must fly each flight on ProPilot and at the moment, with the current version of Flight Logger, each flight must therefore take place online.
We are working on a new Flight Logger which will overcome these issues but sadly at this time you can only participate in these Events by flying online.
Post by: RCortez on May 04, 2010, 11:47:55 am
Thanks for your response and have a nice day :)
Post by: EHM-1001 Robert on May 04, 2010, 10:34:36 pm
You do not need to fly it completely online on IVAO or VATSIM network with all the additional stuff needed there. You only need to run our FlightLogger. In case of ProPilot flying this is the "basic online" flying :) The good thing is FlightLogger shares data with the server around every half minute only. Perhaps your onnection is stable enough for this "basic online" version of flying ?
Post by: RCortez on May 04, 2010, 11:49:14 pm
Thanks anyway and good flight for everyone :)
Post by: RCortez on May 05, 2010, 08:34:36 am
Thanks for that E-J :D
For those who haven't noticed yet, the EVENT PAGE ([url]http://www.fly-euroharmony.com/site/events.htm[/url]) is now live with full details of the event legs and dates.
Please have a look there for full details and post any queries or new registrations here ;)
Hi Dominic, is possible to participate without good Internet connection, I mean sometimes my connection broke down any moment, because I was a WiFi connection and I don't know if is possible with that. By the way in the page of the event I read this:
12 Puebla, Mexico (MMPB) Cali, Columbia (SKCL);
13 Cali, Columbia (SKCL) Arequipa, Peru (SPQU);
12 Nevado del Huila Columbia SKCL, and I think is Colombia instead of Columbia country ???
Thanks for your work, and I'll hope to participate without connection problem. :)
Post by: EHM-1465 Dominic on May 05, 2010, 11:05:50 am
Fingers crossed, your Internet connection will be ok during the Event!
And I'll get the spelling changed too - we wouldn't want anyone ending up in the USA instead of South America on that leg :D
Post by: RCortez on May 05, 2010, 11:58:00 am
It's means that I've to fly during this week..., but I don't know when exactly? I mean the GMT time or is possible to fly when is possible for me? I mean the best hour for my Internet connection...
Thanks a lot :)
Post by: EHM-1465 Dominic on May 05, 2010, 12:12:12 pm
The 1400 figure you saw is the GCD or Great Circle Distance from origin to destination - this is the straight line distance to give you an idea of how long the flight is.
Post by: RCortez on May 05, 2010, 12:19:06 pm
I'm waiting for the event and the other rules for the newbies ;D
Post by: EHM-2097 Andrei on May 08, 2010, 05:15:26 pm
12 Nevado del Huila Columbia SKCL, and I think is Colombia instead of Columbia country ???
Oops, my bad... it was late that evening and I did not cross-check against the English name (at least, now you know how we spell the country's name back here in Romania :) )
Now that the error was exposed, I will correct it all right.
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I'm waiting for the event and the other rules for the newbies
Well there aren't many rules:
1) You have to depart / arrive exactly where each leg says (so don't try to land the B744 at EGLC in the last leg, it won't count)
2) You have to lock each leg and fly it whenever you wish but within the indicated date interval
3) Most important (although obvious): you will get a (virtual :) ) plane of your own so don't crash it, there are no replacements available
Stick with these rules and the event badge will be yours...
Additionally, sometimes pilots decide to fly some leg online and together but thers's no obligation here, just watch the forums if you are interested in this variation.
Andrei
Post by: RCortez on May 08, 2010, 07:14:09 pm
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Oops, my bad... it was late that evening and I did not cross-check against the English name (at least, now you know how we spell the country's name back here in Romania :) )
Now that the error was exposed, I will correct it all right.
Thanks Andrei, but the error still in the web, I mean in the second one, but the first one is Ok.
12 Nevado del Huila Columbia SKCL
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Stick with these rules and the event badge will be yours...
Additionally, sometimes pilots decide to fly some leg online and together but thers's no obligation here, just watch the forums if you are interested in this variation.
Thank you very much for the rules, as you said is possible to fly offline?
Thanks again
Post by: EHM-1997 Alexander on May 09, 2010, 12:35:01 am
Thank you very much for the rules, as you said is possible to fly offline?
Offline as in not on ivao, but you still need to be connected to the internet during the flight for flogger to work.
Post by: RCortez on May 09, 2010, 06:23:59 am
Post by: EHM-1997 Alexander on May 09, 2010, 12:22:03 pm
Chars.
Post by: EHM-2097 Andrei on May 09, 2010, 08:06:13 pm
| Tail Number | Pilot ID | Name |
| PP-A90 | 2097 | Andrei Vatasescu |
| PP-A91 | 1929 | Trevor Bolton |
| PP-A92 | 2121 | Christopher L. F. Ingvaldsen |
| PP-A93 | 2565 | Roberto Cortez |
| PP-A94 | 1001 | Robert Szikszo |
| PP-A95 | 1997 | Alexander Worton |
Please check you have these aircraft assigned to you in the "Propilot" section, "Lock flight", and look for B744s parked at EGLL. You should see your own marked in green and the others in orange.
Also... no more volunteers? Do not forget that during events one is allowed to fly aircraft in classes above his own rank, so it's also a fast way to get promoted.
Andrei
Post by: RCortez on May 09, 2010, 10:55:55 pm
Thanks ;)
Post by: RCortez on May 11, 2010, 07:51:09 am
Thanks and excuse for the stupid question, but I'm newbie as you know in EuroHarmony & Propilot too :-[
Thanks for your help
Post by: EHM-2097 Andrei on May 11, 2010, 12:04:27 pm
You must first lock your flight in the "Propilot" of the web site.
For now you should see your aircraft parked at EGLL, and it should let you lock it BUT the "available flights" list should be empty (until tomorrow, when the first leg will appear... by magic of course).
Also, in order to use the new aircraft and flights, you should use the "update" function on flight logger.
Only after you perform these two tasks, you can use the "Propilot" button on flight logger and this will initialize the flight for you.
Hope this helps
Andrei
Post by: RCortez on May 11, 2010, 04:48:58 pm
Thanks again for your help :)
Post by: EHM-1997 Alexander on May 12, 2010, 02:25:24 pm
Post by: EHM-2121 Christopher on May 12, 2010, 03:47:17 pm
One reason may be that I don't have the class 7 certification.
Do you know why??
Thanks for answer
Chris
Post by: EHM-2097 Andrei on May 12, 2010, 05:57:24 pm
In the meanwhile, please all participants try to lock the first leg flight (if you don't want to fly it right away, you can unlock it afterwards). I need to know who has problems and who hasn't.
Andrei
[EDIT] On second thought, aircraft class may indeed be the problem. In this case it should be fixed by now, please try again
Post by: EHM-1997 Alexander on May 12, 2010, 06:35:50 pm
Post by: RCortez on May 13, 2010, 11:08:27 am
We will check this.For me is Ok. but I've a problem with my wings I think so. First of all I've FSX Accéleration and the plane for FSX it doesn't appear well. I do install the Volcanob-744f for the FS9 version and It's works but I don't see the wings completely(http://) and I don't know how to insert the FSScreen image, sorry for this.
In the meanwhile, please all participants try to lock the first leg flight (if you don't want to fly it right away, you can unlock it afterwards). I need to know who has problems and who hasn't.
Andrei
[EDIT] On second thought, aircraft class may indeed be the problem. In this case it should be fixed by now, please try again
Post by: RCortez on May 13, 2010, 02:26:14 pm
Thanks a lot :)
Post by: EHM-1001 Robert on May 13, 2010, 05:39:05 pm
It is normal at the 747 with this panel. You can define the angle how much you look back "over your shoulder" in the Panel.cfg file. At this airplane this angle is not defined, so the game offers default 45° angles viewed from the cockpit.
Post by: RCortez on May 13, 2010, 05:48:31 pm
Post by: EHM-1997 Alexander on May 13, 2010, 05:58:20 pm
Post by: EHM-1800 Franz on May 14, 2010, 11:22:34 am
Please sign me up with one 747 heavy !
Cheers !
Franz
Post by: EHM-1465 Dominic on May 14, 2010, 11:32:36 am
Post by: EHM-1800 Franz on May 14, 2010, 05:39:45 pm
Just finished the EUROHARMONY VOLCANO SCIENTIFIC STUDY TOUR 01/16
After shutdown the engines I wanted to sent the PIREP, but Flightlogger said "You have to choos an aircraft" - but it was choosen - B744F - so I had to made a "manual" report
I´ve see, I got a penalty - started engine without beacon - it´s a mistake with PMDG - beacon WAS ON !!!
I pressed the button "Save ACARS" - maby you can check it !
I also was asked by pressing the button "Pro Pilot" if I want realy make the flight an I confirmed - is my Aircraft now registered in Greece?
Now I have noticed, that I didn`t update my Flight Logger - maby this was the error !!! What a fool I am - can you help me to avoid to repeat the flight?
With a lot of greetings
Franz
Post by: EHM-2097 Andrei on May 14, 2010, 07:21:01 pm
Indeed the Flight logger needs an update to get both the leg flight and the aircraft, it's not the standard B744F but a variation of it - a visually customized variation thanks to Robert's work.
It seems that due to this incomplete setup, FL3 did not "see" you departing so technically you were just sitting quiet at EGLL. In FL3, the visual clue of a flight being actually recorded is the enabled "Stop Log" button (which no one wants ever press of course). I hope I made this "recording or not, this is the question" more obvious in FL4 but it's not released yet.
Anyway I think we can indeed fix your aircraft for the next leg. Let me check...
Andrei
Post by: EHM-1997 Alexander on May 14, 2010, 10:54:30 pm
You'll be as glad as I to know that the aircraft sustained no damage and that 5 1/2 hour flight was successful.
I have a video of it, might throw it together and stick it up on youtube ;)
Post by: EHM-1997 Alexander on May 15, 2010, 12:05:06 am
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gHVgwpUyJBU
REX clouds can be seen at the start
Post by: RCortez on May 15, 2010, 12:50:56 am
Thanks for your comments please. :)
Post by: EHM-2097 Andrei on May 15, 2010, 08:53:23 am
I see Dom has already validated your PIREP, unfortunately one that is manually submitted cannot count as a PP flight.
However this should not be a problem, I moved (database-wise) your airplane to LGSA and I think this should be enough for you to continue the event. Please try to lock the second leg and post again if you encounter any difficulties.
Andrei
Post by: EHM-2097 Andrei on May 15, 2010, 09:21:36 am
Well, I just landed leg 2 in the Congo and d**n! Hit a thunderstorm on arrival. Put her down nice and slow, right on the numbers and thrust reversers, spoilers, plus maximum brakes wasn't quite enough.
That's strange, I have checked the runway length and there should be enough of it for a 747 ???
BUT I think I know why this happened... As stated in the leg "volcanic details", in real life 1/3 of the runway was covered in lava some time ago and thus become unusable (as well as part of the taxiways, isolating some parked aircraft left with nowhere to go). This appears clearly visible in Google Earth.
I was aware of this when I planned this leg, however (a little to my surprise) the runway appeared to have its full length available in both FS9 and FSX. I just did not check X-Plane 8)
So, FS9 and FSX users, calm down, you got 30% extra runway :)
Andrei
Post by: EHM-1997 Alexander on May 15, 2010, 09:55:35 am
Had that runway been dry, I think I might have made it.
Then again, it is the congo.
That runway was much shorter than the one I landed on in Greece though, so you could be right there Andrei. ;D
Also neither airpoort so far has had ILS, so I've had to make visual approaches - are they all like this?
Post by: EHM-0654 Murray on May 15, 2010, 10:15:14 am
Post by: EHM-1997 Alexander on May 15, 2010, 10:30:56 am
I was at about 160 ias on that approach iirc
That said, I find that the x-plane 747 handles much better than the MSFS 747s. They both feel heavy, but roll, yaw etc are more responsive in x-plane.
I don't think the MSFS 747 could do this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fv_QYd2CRkg
the x-plane ones would.
Post by: EHM-2097 Andrei on May 15, 2010, 11:24:04 am
Also neither airpoort so far has had ILS, so I've had to make visual approaches - are they all like this?
No, I could not find enough runways having the correct length but no ILS :) , so we will be "forced" to use ILS from time to time. However, some have ILS in one direction only so it's not up to me but up to the weather upon arrival.
Well, in the first leg I found it fun to make a part-VOR, part-visual approach with the 747. But currently I am flying the 2nd leg and I may just find FZNA less amusing, especially due to the terrain one has to fly into in case of go-around.
Andrei
[EDIT] Meanwhile I landed at FZNA, and I confirm there is enough runway for a 747 in FS9 and FSX. And guess what? The next leg arrival airport has no ILS either ;D
Post by: EHM-2577 Tiago on May 15, 2010, 04:44:04 pm
Can I still participate? I really hope I have the time to do it during the next months (things haven't been easy), but I just received the May Newsletter 2 days ago, and this tour seems too good to miss! :)
My status is "Removed" for the moment, but I think that won't make a difference once I start flying... right?
Thanks in advance!
Tiago Grossinho
#EHM-FZ65
Post by: EHM-1465 Dominic on May 15, 2010, 04:55:46 pm
I'm not sure why you haven't got a proper pilot ID though ( a number instead of letters) since you have flown four flights with us last year... I hope my colleagues in the technical team will be able to correct this so we can set you up with a plane for the Event ;)
Post by: EHM-2577 Tiago on May 15, 2010, 04:59:56 pm
But thanks for checking it out, then! :D
Tiago
Post by: EHM-2097 Andrei on May 15, 2010, 05:07:17 pm
The first part of the problem is for Murray I think, I don't know how the pilot status and ID work. I always thought that anyone who reports one flight automatically gets a definitive ID, but in your case this did not happen so I think some manual action is required.
As soon as we have this fixed, I can add you to the events participants. And we are considering extending the first leg availability period, so all chances are you won't be left behind :)
Andrei
Post by: EHM-1800 Franz on May 15, 2010, 05:13:22 pm
Thanks, that you managed that I could start the second leg from LGSA to FZNA
which was made this day - was not an easy landing on rw 16 - approaching between the mountains, in a heavy thunderstorm - no ILS - visibility less than 1 mile - no PAPPI/VASI with an heavy aircraft !
Hope, the next destinations are better equipped !
Cheers !
Franz
Post by: EHM-1997 Alexander on May 15, 2010, 05:16:06 pm
Post by: EHM-2097 Andrei on May 15, 2010, 05:32:21 pm
I watched you all the flight within the EHM ACARS page, you have been minutes ahead of me. And I noticed you landed on rwy 18, something I hoped I won't have to. I think this approach is very difficult due to high mountains just in front of the airport.
I preferred a long detour over the lake (the only place one can safely assume there is no high ground :) ) to loose altitude and landed on rwy 36, which is way easier (and it has VASI lights, too).
Next stop is not much better: same runway length (longer in X-Plane I hope 8) ), no ILS, just VASI lights. But no high ground in the vicinity either.
Andrei
Post by: EHM-1800 Franz on May 16, 2010, 08:13:54 am
I have seen, that you also have been on the way !
I looked for you at the eye of IVAO, but there was only me - very lonly !
Do you fly on VATSIM ?
What about, if we could fly the next leg together - maby there would be other pilots who wants to join us ?
Cheers !
Franz
Post by: EHM-1001 Robert on May 16, 2010, 06:22:05 pm
I hope you already towed away your plane, or we will not have enough space for so much 747s ;D
Post by: EHM-2097 Andrei on May 17, 2010, 06:49:39 am
Unfortunately, I didn't fly this leg online at all. I generally don't like to fly online in areas where 99% of the time there is no ATC. If I am not prepared (charts, specific procedures and the such) and that 1% likely ATC pops up, I look like a perfect fool. And spending a lot of time in preparation, only to discover there is no need for that (and all surrounding pilots just do DCTs)... doesn't feel much better.
Now if we set up a group flight things would be a little different. Next leg is shorter so it's flyable in weekdays (evenings to be more precise), not necessarly weekends. We could do that if a departure around 1700z - 1800z suits you too.
@Robert:
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I hope you already towed away your plane, or we will not have enough space for so much 747s
You can say that again, I had to park mine across the gates :)
Post by: RCortez on May 17, 2010, 08:31:02 am
Post by: EHM-2097 Andrei on May 17, 2010, 08:40:15 pm
Can I still participate? I really hope I have the time to do it during the next months (things haven't been easy), but I just received the May Newsletter 2 days ago, and this tour seems too good to miss! :)
Hi Tiago,
You are now an active pilot again, with the new ID = EHM2577 (Murray took charge of this, he can tell you more about it)
As for the event... you got a brand new 747F, tail number PP-A97, parked at EGLL fueled and ready for the tour (just kidding about the "fueled" part, it is strongly advised that one checks the fuel level by himself ::) before attempting to take off).
And the first leg has been extended, so that the two first legs can still be flown next week-end.
Of course, this extension applies to everybody so if there are still volunteers for the event, this is a great time to step forward!
Happy landings
Andrei
Post by: EHM-2577 Tiago on May 18, 2010, 08:23:14 am
Talking about fuel and weight... I was trying out the B744F this weekend, and somehow I couldn't get it off the ground and to a steady climb rate...I tried and tried and tried (and crashed and crashed and crashed..) ... until figuring out that the plane was 60 ton-overweight in the Payload section of FSX. :o :o :o
Anyway... just one question: can one fly a flight at night (real-time) and set the simulator at daytime? Will that disturb ProPilot or the Flight Logger?
Thank you in advance :)
Post by: RCortez on May 18, 2010, 10:10:55 am
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can one fly a flight at night (real-time) and set the simulator at daytime? Will that disturb ProPilot or the Flight Logger?
Hi Tiago, I think is possible and without problems to use in that way too. Nice fly ;)
Post by: EHM-2577 Tiago on May 18, 2010, 10:26:24 am
Post by: EHM-2097 Andrei on May 18, 2010, 05:29:38 pm
I guess *most* real pilots fly during work time, while my boss would definitely NOT allow me to do so ;D
So flying with daylight at any time is not only technically possible, but quite ethical too IMHO (unless some event / tour / mission explicitely request to do otherwise).
Andrei
Post by: EHM-2577 Tiago on May 18, 2010, 05:40:40 pm
That's great news, thank you! :)
Post by: EHM-2097 Andrei on May 19, 2010, 09:02:46 pm
Andrei
Post by: RCortez on May 19, 2010, 09:19:18 pm
Post by: EHM-2097 Andrei on May 21, 2010, 05:06:13 pm
Maybe next week-end? A looong leg we will have then...
Andrei
P.S. I will fly to OYHD tomorrow evenig as planned - online if not alone
Post by: EHM-1997 Alexander on May 21, 2010, 09:44:42 pm
Came in at ~144 ias, had dumped all but fumes over the water, touched down at the threshold and because it wasn't raining, pulled off a short field landing.
Stop shorter than that and win a biscuit.
Video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qeh4mDmCPqw
Real life short field: http://vimeo.com/6180056
Post by: RCortez on May 21, 2010, 09:52:19 pm
Post by: EHM-1997 Alexander on May 21, 2010, 10:11:02 pm
Nice landing Alexander ;) I don't know if I'll have the opportunity to fly, because my Flight Logger doesn't work :'(
What's wrong with it?
Post by: EHM-0654 Murray on May 21, 2010, 10:15:28 pm
Well, after my overrun at FZNA, I decided to take no chances.Another nice video (and excellent landing BTW). Tiniest bit overdone on the vignetting (IMHO) and I notice that your 747 model doesn't auto-deploy spoilers (or it does but has no anim for it...)
Came in at ~144 ias, had dumped all but fumes over the water, touched down at the threshold and because it wasn't raining, pulled off a short field landing.
Stop shorter than that and win a biscuit.
Post by: RCortez on May 21, 2010, 10:17:01 pm
Post by: EHM-2097 Andrei on May 21, 2010, 10:32:56 pm
You probably did "update" flights before selecting the ProPilot flight... but I better ask than assume.
Otherwise bad things happen as the software attempts to manage a flight that does not exist in its data.
Andrei
Post by: RCortez on May 21, 2010, 10:42:42 pm
Post by: RCortez on May 21, 2010, 10:44:25 pm
Post by: EHM-1997 Alexander on May 21, 2010, 11:27:30 pm
Another nice video (and excellent landing BTW). Tiniest bit overdone on the vignetting (IMHO) and I notice that your 747 model doesn't auto-deploy spoilers (or it does but has no anim for it...)
TYVM :) Agree on the vignette, will be toned down for the next one, although I'll probably take a break from the 744 vids - the v4 x737 was released today and the exterior model looks great. I hear that v5 looks to add in a vc.
The 747 model does have animations for spoilers, and they do autodeploy - but I didn't have the spoilers armed (I normally have spoiler set to an axis on my throttles, but I had to give it up to make room for 2 extra engines).
I'll stick it on a checklist - have to scroll the panel in x-plane to view the throttle quadrant
Post by: EHM-0654 Murray on May 22, 2010, 09:13:17 am
The 747 model does have animations for spoilers, and they do autodeploy - but I didn't have the spoilers armed (I normally have spoiler set to an axis on my throttles, but I had to give it up to make room for 2 extra engines).Well, that was "the reason, the why, the because" I was avoiding mentioning.... ;)
I'm really surprised that Boeing haven't made the 74X do the same as the 738/739 do, auto-deploy whether they are armed or not as the reversers are engaged (fully automatic late deployment). Having said that, they probably have; I've yet to find a 73X model for Flight Sim that implements FALD. The very nice Revolution Simproducts 73X throttle quad does bolt it on to any/all 737 models however.
Right, best stop hijacking
Post by: EHM-0654 Murray on May 22, 2010, 09:30:38 am
Thanks for your response Andrei, but before I update and doesn't work either. This the picture of the error message
Help please :-[
My french doesn't quite run to fully translating the error Roberto, but I've seen the BOF/EOF error before. If memory serves, it's an incomplete update of FLogger that causes those (or an error in the database on the server, and I'd have noticed one of those having just updated my own installation not five minutes ago...).
UPDATE: OK, one quick search of the forum later, these errors are normally a result of the ICAO data in FLogger V3 not matching the data in Flight Sim. Roberto, can I ask you (or anyone else with an FS2004 installation) to check that Lima is SPIM in FS2004 and let the management team know ASAP if it's not!
Then, assuming we don't need to fix the database any further, you'll need to unlock all PP flights you currently have locked on the site, run a FLogger update, then re-lock your flight(s). After that, you can re-connect FLogger to your locked flight(s) and all should be well.
Post by: EHM-2097 Andrei on May 22, 2010, 09:52:55 am
After browsing the "Old Forum" section for this very "popular" error, I note a few things to try:
1) I see you are using FSX; did you use the "Read airports" function in FL3? It seems this is not FSX-compatible and may cause this very error. If you did, you need to reinstall FL3 and no longer use this feature.
2) There is a chance the problem is related to this particular flight instead of your installation. So please try to set up a flight that you know you did before with no problem, both in "normal" and "PP" mode (and let us know what happens of course)
3) I notice your FL3 is "missing" the right upper part, with the flight criteria selection. Is it so from the beginning (that is, when starting FL3) or just when you got this error?
Andrei
Post by: RCortez on May 22, 2010, 01:05:53 pm
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1) I see you are using FSX; did you use the "Read airports" function in FL3? It seems this is not FSX-compatible and may cause this very error. If you did, you need to reinstall FL3 and no longer use this feature.In fact I used, but I don't know how to reinstall FL3 ??? I mean I don't know what is FL3 ??? So sorry, I'm very very Newbie :-[
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2) There is a chance the problem is related to this particular flight instead of your installation. So please try to set up a flight that you know you did before with no problem, both in "normal" and "PP" mode (and let us know what happens of course)I tried, but without successful ???
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3) I notice your FL3 is "missing" the right upper part, with the flight criteria selection. Is it so from the beginning (that is, when starting FL3) or just when you got this error?Yes, but I don't know how to reinstall the FL3 ??? I'm very sorry :-[
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Then, assuming we don't need to fix the database any further, you'll need to unlock all PP flights you currently have locked on the site, run a FLogger update, then re-lock your flight(s). After that, you can re-connect FLogger to your locked flight(s) and all should be well.Yes, nevertheless could you explain for a Newbie how is the way to unlock and re-lock ??? English is not my mother tongue :P, but it's mean that is necessary to unlock and re-lock in the web page ??? all the flights... I'm very confused and I don't know by who or what begin ??? Very sorry and thank you very much for your help :)
Post by: RCortez on May 22, 2010, 02:03:08 pm
The first one is the Logger begin, I mean without selection fight
The second one with Normal selection flight
Third one with Pp selection flight
And the last one, I mean four instead of three Images, after 15 or 20 seconds in Pp selection flight
Thanks a lot for your help :)
Post by: RCortez on May 22, 2010, 02:09:03 pm
Here your are
Thanks again :)
Post by: EHM-0654 Murray on May 22, 2010, 02:15:13 pm
As for deinstalling Flight Logger, just delete it's folder from your Program Files directory. Yes, it will leave a bit of "mess" in your registry, but that will be corrected when you install it again "over the top".
As for unlocking a PP flight, that's easy. Log into the main EuroHarmony website with your pilot ID and password. Then, from the Divisions menu, go to the ProPilot "division". Once you're in ProPilot, click on "Pilot Information", and at the bottom of the pilot information page you'll see you locked flight (EHM-H1116). Finally, click on the big "Unlock Flight" button there to unlock the flight.
Now, the above en Francais (thanks to Google, so blame them if it's has no meaning):
Comme pour le déverrouillage d'un vol PP, qui est facile. Connectez-vous au site Web de EuroHarmony principal avec votre ID et mot de passe pilotes. Puis, à partir du menu divisions, aller à la ProPilot "division". Une fois que vous êtes dans ProPilot, cliquez sur "Pilot Information", et au bas de la page d'information pilotes, vous verrez que vous verrouillé vol (EHM-H1116). Enfin, cliquez sur le gros "Unlock Flight" bouton là pour débloquer le vol.
Post by: EHM-0654 Murray on May 22, 2010, 02:21:02 pm
Post by: RCortez on May 22, 2010, 02:21:49 pm
Post by: RCortez on May 22, 2010, 02:28:49 pm
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"Add/Remove Programs" in Control Panel should be the place to start, but as I said above, you can just delete the folder from Program Files.It doesn't work, I'm very embarrassed :-[ I'm very sorry, this is the message and image
Is possible to erase all files instead of use the Remove Programs ??? Thanks again :)
Post by: RCortez on May 22, 2010, 02:35:18 pm
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As for unlocking a PP flight, that's easy. Log into the main EuroHarmony website with your pilot ID and password. Then, from the Divisions menu, go to the ProPilot "division". Once you're in ProPilot, click on "Pilot Information", and at the bottom of the pilot information page you'll see you locked flight (EHM-H1116). Finally, click on the big "Unlock Flight" button there to unlock the flight.Ok. I unlock the flight (H1116), but I don't know how to unlock the others flights where they are ???
Post by: RCortez on May 22, 2010, 02:43:17 pm
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Then, assuming we don't need to fix the database any further, you'll need to unlock all PP flights you currently have locked on the site, run a FLogger update, then re-lock your flight(s). After that, you can re-connect FLogger to your locked flight(s) and all should be well.This the picture of my PP flight and I don't know where to search the others one
Thanks again :)
Post by: EHM-0654 Murray on May 22, 2010, 03:27:43 pm
So, now delete the Flight Logger folder from Program Files (since supprimering it failed): if you've only got the Flight Logger installed, and nothing else by EuroHarmony, you can delete the whole EuroHarmony folder (and all of it's contents) from Program Files, otherwise go into the EuroHarmony folder in Program Files and delete the "Flight Logger ProPilot" folder. Then, as I said, download a new copy of Flight Logger from the website and install it "over the top" of the remains of the previous installation. Once that completes, start it and do an "Update". Then and only then, select a flight and let us know that everything went fine. ;)
And finally, you can go back to the website and lock H1116 again (and then try selecting it in Flight Logger and clicking "ProPilot") and again, let us know it worked fine. :)
Post by: RCortez on May 22, 2010, 03:38:23 pm
It is possible to delete manually ???
Post by: RCortez on May 22, 2010, 04:19:04 pm
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delete the "Flight Logger ProPilot" folderI'm afraid but I'm not the FLPP folder, I mean when I was installed the PPL I was send it in the FSX folder and I don't know all the files that I do to erase. I send you two pictures for looking at and please tell me which files I do erase it... :-[
The first one:
Post by: RCortez on May 22, 2010, 05:00:27 pm
You're the master of the master :D
Thanks a lot Murray and all the team too :)
Post by: EHM-0654 Murray on May 22, 2010, 06:14:35 pm
It's workkkkkkssssss :D Thank you very much ;)
You're the master of the master :D
Thanks a lot Murray and all the team too :)
That's great to hear Roberto. You are very welcome (on my own behalf, and to a much lesser degree, the rest of the MT).
Now don't let it happen again ;)
Post by: RCortez on May 22, 2010, 07:43:08 pm
Post by: EHM-2097 Andrei on May 27, 2010, 08:01:03 pm
The time is... anytime in principle but we should expect flying most part of that day.
Andrei
Post by: RCortez on May 28, 2010, 12:56:05 am
Post by: EHM-1997 Alexander on May 28, 2010, 08:28:09 am
Post by: EHM-1001 Robert on June 05, 2010, 08:03:47 pm
did you measured too strong headwind over the Indian Ocean ? According to my FMC I may need to divert...
Post by: EHM-1001 Robert on June 20, 2010, 05:22:48 pm
Post by: EHM-1001 Robert on June 26, 2010, 08:04:37 pm
It seems we are only 3 who still flying the scientific stuff along the tour. Good luck Trevor and Andrei !
Post by: RCortez on June 27, 2010, 09:08:15 am
Thanks
Post by: EHM-1465 Dominic on June 27, 2010, 08:39:29 pm
What exactly were the circumstances? I'm sure I saw your ACARS data and I think it looked like a wheels-up landing...?
Post by: RCortez on June 27, 2010, 09:27:09 pm
Post by: EHM-1001 Robert on June 28, 2010, 08:28:13 pm
Better luck next time mate !
Post by: RCortez on June 28, 2010, 08:37:51 pm
Post by: EHM-1001 Robert on July 19, 2010, 08:47:54 pm
I had to make a go-around because the silly FMC misscalculated the altitude and I was still at 2000' over the threshold. Also, there are a tons of small airfields around the town, so it was a nightmare to catch the appropriate tower frequency. I spotted an empty zone and parked there with the beast... checked that on Google Earth, and realized it is a military area of the airfield, actually I was sitting among a pack of F-15s, so do not look after me for some days :)
After landing I went out to check the racetrack near the airport while they pack out the staff ;) I really hated driving at Portland in IndyCar Racing, because it has repeating and changing radius curves, it is very challenging and I never find a good setup for my car. But it is so much fun watching a real race on TV, as the guys are struggling in the corners, and struggling with spin-offs because there are huge grass fields around the track without a wall. At some places it is just like rallying among the cows !
... err, and the airport lays at a lovely place too on the river bank :)
Post by: EHM-2097 Andrei on July 24, 2010, 09:57:50 am
First, I found myself in the situation of having only one chance to do one of the long flights (PHTO - KPDX), which is in itself a mistake.
Then, with the flight almost complete, just before starting descent I had to pause. And while paused, my son had to use the computer and thought it was safe to "Switch Session" in Windows XP. As most of you hopefully know, it is not...
Lost the flight and had no time to do it again. And of course, expecting better luck for the next event :)
Andrei
Post by: EHM-1997 Alexander on July 24, 2010, 10:23:34 am
Post by: EHM-2589 David on July 24, 2010, 11:01:30 am
Post by: EHM-1001 Robert on July 24, 2010, 12:29:44 pm
It seems we are only 2 still flying... or only me ??? :o
EDT: Andrei, you still have 2 days to fly to Portland ! Try it please, so we can fill up the podium places ;)
Post by: EHM-2097 Andrei on July 25, 2010, 08:42:00 am
*Rushes to lock the flight again
Andrei
Post by: EHM-1829 Trevor on July 25, 2010, 07:42:52 pm
Hi Folks
Andrei, it seemed you had holiday or work commitments which would have snookered your flying plans; so
i am glad to see it was only an oversight of dates, well done to Robert for reminding you.
I’ve been grounded till today due to a weeks visit to my son’s house in The Netherlands; so hoping to fly
the KPDX-MMPB leg tomorrow.
The best of luck to you both. ;)
Trevor