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Title: Events Section - Any doubts posted here!
Post by: EHM-0948 Bruno on December 27, 2005, 06:02:51 pm
Hi,

Any doubts about our new Events section can be posted here.

Regards,
Title: Events Section - Any doubts posted here!
Post by: EHM-0361 Karsten on December 27, 2005, 10:30:55 pm
Hi Bruno,

One question and a  few small errors in the event timetable. First the errors, leg 2 has the wrong year (2005) in the activation Date. Leg 3 has the wrong date period 2005-12-31 to 2006-01-02 instead of 2006-01-02 to 2006-01-04. Leg 4 and 5 has wrong year (2005) in both active and deact date. Small thing but I thougth I would mention them.
My question is how will the periode run. from activ date 0:01 to deact date 0:01 or will it be to 23:59?
Title: Events Section - Any doubts posted here!
Post by: EHM-1657 Jay on December 28, 2005, 10:17:24 am
I think it is great, I have been a fan of the Paris-Dakar since the days of Thierry Sabine, may he rest in peace
Title: Events Section - Any doubts posted here!
Post by: EHM-0948 Bruno on December 28, 2005, 10:18:44 am
Hi,

About the incorrect dates we will correct it as soon as possible.
About the active/inactive period that time is compared with the server time.

Because the server is in USA i think there will be some 5/6 hours delay to the GMT time. So, I suggest you don't wait for the "last minute" to lock the next flight.
Basically here in portugal its six hour earlier than in USA, so I need to count with that...

Regards,
Title: Events Section - Any doubts posted here!
Post by: EHM-0948 Bruno on December 28, 2005, 10:22:22 pm
Dear pilots,

The dates are now corrected.

Also we have posted new information on the page, giving you a zip file with all the flight plans to load on the flight simulator 2004 if you want to.

These flight plans were downloaded on flightsim.com and were made for Cessna 172, but we think they can be used on Embraer 120 with no problems ;) ...

Regards,
Title: Events Section - Any doubts posted here!
Post by: EHM-1657 Jay on December 29, 2005, 12:21:23 pm
Maybe one doubt, you are gonna load 8 planes up for this... what if they are all taken? Does it mean I miss out ? I am in Aussie so when the planes get loaded I am in bed :(
Title: Events Section - Any doubts posted here!
Post by: EHM-0948 Bruno on December 29, 2005, 02:08:30 pm
Hi,

The airplanes are already loaded.

Well, I think that there is a small probability of that to happen, Jay .. Basically who wants to have this challenge will needed to do 15 flights in about 15 days :) ... So, Simão also agreed with 8 airplanes.

Maybe we should say here who is going to participate. If we get more than 8 then we will load more airplanes, that's for sure :) ..

Don't forget that after you submit the pirep, LOCK the airplane immediatly again because if you don't do the 15 flights you don't receive the award :)

Regards,
Title: Events Section - Any doubts posted here!
Post by: EHM-0948 Bruno on December 29, 2005, 02:11:23 pm
Hi,

Our new section is spreaded on vaflash.com ;D ...

Check it out here : http://vaflash.com/content/view/268/2/

Regards,
Title: Events Section - Any doubts posted here!
Post by: EHM-0361 Karsten on December 29, 2005, 02:48:26 pm
Sorry Bruno, to have to correct you. But you missed one in leg 3. And to bring up an old song, because I'm a bit thick headed. I'm going to alter my question so it perhaps is a bit easier to understand. When you use the term that a bit will end after two days, does that mean 48 hours or does it mean it will run all of the day (till the date change on the server in the US)?

Regards,
Title: Events Section - Any doubts posted here!
Post by: EHM-1657 Jay on December 29, 2005, 08:00:51 pm
Uhmm you said the planes are already loaded, but I cannot find them, am I stupid ? I go to lock flight, type in LPPT ( which is the start of the whole thing) and I cannot for the life of me find any flights starting with S001
Title: Events Section - Any doubts posted here!
Post by: EHM-0948 Bruno on December 29, 2005, 11:23:46 pm
Hi Jay,

ProPilot has feature that only shows flights that are active.

The first flight is activated at 31-12, so it will only be active on that date.

I made a small change on the "Lock Flight" section so you can see the local server time and date, and compare it to your respective local time :) ...

So, after the first second on the server 31-12 date, you can lock the flight because it will appear on the possible flights popup screen.

Merlin, leg 3 is corrected.

Also, I recomend you all to take a look at the page again please. It has improved in the design ;) ...

Regards,
Title: Events Section - Any doubts posted here!
Post by: EHM-0948 Bruno on December 29, 2005, 11:34:33 pm
And here are some scenery links:

Lisbon Airport                                  http://library.avsim.net/esearch.php?DLID=50753&CatID=fs2004scen
Lisbon LPPT photoreal. Airport and city         http://library.avsim.net/esearch.php?DLID=61303&CatID=fs2004scen
Portugal VFR and LPPM airport                   flightsim.com portugt1.zip, portugt2.zip, portug04.zip
LEMG Malaga:  (not tested 2004)                 http://www.mundofree.com/aalba/lemg42.htm and update http://www.mundofree.com/aalba/upd45.htm
Spain VFR:                                      flightsim.com   sp04_scy.zip  sp04_tx1.zip sp04_tx2.zip sp04_tx3.zip  sp04_ms1.zip sp04_ms2.zip
Marocco(GMFK, GMMZ):                            flightsim.com maroc_sc.zip, maroc_lm.zip
*****
Western Sahara. Dakhla (Villa Cisneros), Laayune GMML, Nouadhibou GQPP, Smara GMMA, Tindouf DAOF, Tarfay. Plus VFR scenery flightsim.com sahara04.zip
*****
Africa landclass. Landclass for the entire continent    library.avsim.net/esearch.php?DLID=50244&CatID=fs2004scen
*****
Dakar Airport:  http://perso.wanadoo.fr/fs-senegal/
Title: Events Section - Any doubts posted here!
Post by: EHM-1657 Jay on December 30, 2005, 12:23:29 am
Cooool, thank you so much Bruno !!!
Title: Events Section - Any doubts posted here!
Post by: EHM-1670 Bill on December 30, 2005, 09:20:42 am
Quote
Originally posted by bfalcao
Hi,

Our new section is spreaded on vaflash.com ;D ...

Check it out here : [url]http://vaflash.com/content/view/268/2/[/url]

Regards,

Unfortunately the start date is wrong in the article.

Just to clear up one point I am unsure of - does the event have to be carried out using propilot.

Happy New Year everyone.
Title: Events Section - Any doubts posted here!
Post by: EHM-0948 Bruno on December 30, 2005, 10:33:46 am
Hi,

To win the award (this time), yes, you have to do it in ProPilot.

When we deploy an event it can be done in 2 ways : Only ProPilot, or ProPilot + Normal mode.

This first event has to be done only in ProPilot.

About the vaflash mistake, i already contacted them to correct it. Thank you.

Regards,
Title: Events Section - Any doubts posted here!
Post by: EHM-1442 Luis on December 30, 2005, 09:46:10 pm
I'll do this event. At least i'll start it....let's see if i don't crash the Embraer....

Someone else?

Correct me if i'm wrong.First leg is at 31/12. This ''ll be activated in the PP one day before. So this must be activated at 30/12. Is it right? or my head is in the moon?
Title: Events Section - Any doubts posted here!
Post by: EHM-0079 Simão on December 30, 2005, 10:34:08 pm
It´s almost starting...
Lock your planes guys!!
:)
Title: Events Section - Any doubts posted here!
Post by: EHM-1670 Bill on December 31, 2005, 06:38:25 am
I can see from the fleet status that there are 11 E120s at LPPT but cannot find them in the ProPilot.

Help!!
Title: Events Section - Any doubts posted here!
Post by: EHM-1657 Jay on December 31, 2005, 08:18:46 am
Same here :(
Title: Events Section - Any doubts posted here!
Post by: EHM-1442 Luis on December 31, 2005, 09:17:38 am
Hi

Current Server Time: 2005-12-31 02:13:48

At this time no flights LPPT - LPPM at Pro Pilot.

Am i missing something?
Title: Events Section - Any doubts posted here!
Post by: EHM-0502 Desmond on December 31, 2005, 10:15:44 am
I cant find any E120s in LLPT (or LPPM) for htat matter. According to Flightlogger the flights S001 to S0016 are all class 1 flights. E120 is a class 3 plane.

If I do a destination search I find 6 Su80 waiting in LPPT with S001 as the flight number.

Where are the E120s??

The current server time is  2005-12-31 03:15:03 , so the planes should be visible!
Title: Events Section - Any doubts posted here!
Post by: EHM-1343 Jonathan on December 31, 2005, 10:21:38 am
SAME PROBLEM HERE,
If anyone touches CS-EID they are dead:@

Looks like its gonna be a race to lock all the planes:P
Title: Events Section - Any doubts posted here!
Post by: EHM-0502 Desmond on December 31, 2005, 10:31:19 am
I tried to lock an E120, but flight S001 was not one of the options - only class 3 flights!
Title: Events Section - Any doubts posted here!
Post by: EHM-1358 Tim on December 31, 2005, 10:35:31 am
Knew this would happen. :%
Title: Events Section - Any doubts posted here!
Post by: EHM-1628 Jarle on December 31, 2005, 11:11:47 am
Hello pilots.
Those of you who don't find the Embraer 120 in Propilot:
Try a search on the lock flight site where you enter lppt as airport and embraer 120 as the airplane.
If you dont find the routes in the flightlogger, just press the update key to download the current routes.
The airplane must be choosen before the flight in flightlogger.
First select Embraer 120 and then the flight.
You will get a red flashing text who warns you that the aircraft and route doesn't match. Just forget that message and start flying :)
Title: Events Section - Any doubts posted here!
Post by: EHM-0502 Desmond on December 31, 2005, 11:16:08 am
I can find the e120s in Lisbon, but you can not lock it against flight S001 - only Euroholiday flights on on the list.
Title: Events Section - Any doubts posted here!
Post by: EHM-1670 Bill on December 31, 2005, 11:17:59 am
You cannot do that - all you get when Propilot is clicked after selecting the plane and S001 is an error message 'There is no locked flight. Please lock a flight first.'
Title: Events Section - Any doubts posted here!
Post by: EHM-1343 Jonathan on December 31, 2005, 11:19:06 am
I cant even get that far.....i cannot see S001 in the list
Title: Events Section - Any doubts posted here!
Post by: EHM-1442 Luis on December 31, 2005, 11:24:22 am
Hi Jarle

Current Server Time: 2005-12-31 04:16:41

The problem is that you can't look the flight LPPT to LPPM with the Embraer 120, in the Pro Piçot.

To fly the Lisbon-Dakar event, you must fly a Embraer120, in the Pro Pilot and the first leg is LPPT-LPPM.

I updated the flightLogger.......this flight is in the FlightLogger now.......but it is not in the ProPilot

Thank you anyway
Title: Events Section - Any doubts posted here!
Post by: EHM-1670 Bill on December 31, 2005, 11:37:46 am
Quote
Originally posted by Razza
I cant even get that far.....i cannot see S001 in the list


Hit update in Flogger then scroll all the way down to the flights - nearly at the bottom.
Title: Events Section - Any doubts posted here!
Post by: EHM-1358 Tim on December 31, 2005, 11:50:43 am
Got the flight up, do we have to use Propilot for it, cause at the momment, we can't.
Title: Events Section - Any doubts posted here!
Post by: EHM-0502 Desmond on December 31, 2005, 11:59:23 am
You can not lock an Embraer 120 to flight S001 at the website, so you can not fly that flight. Someone need to make it a class 3 flight on the website.
Title: Events Section - Any doubts posted here!
Post by: EHM-1001 Robert on December 31, 2005, 12:22:14 pm
In the logger, S001...S014 flights are stored in Main Div/Class 1, but where are the special Embraers? They do not appear at Lisboa ???
Title: Events Section - Any doubts posted here!
Post by: EHM-1752 Luciano on December 31, 2005, 12:23:01 pm
Hi Jarle,

I tried to lock a S001 flight with the Saab2000, but then in the Flight logger the flight LPPT-LPPM does not show at all. In my logger, not even in the Main Div/Class1 nor with any plane.

ok, I see it now (after updating... ;)

Ciao.
Title: Events Section - Any doubts posted here!
Post by: EHM-1343 Jonathan on December 31, 2005, 12:29:36 pm
You need to use the EMB120 to fly this race,
so that will be why you cannot lock this flight...

I am under the illusion that...

You lock a EMB120 at Lisbon.
When clicking on the Registration, you click on S001 as the flight number.
The flight should be locked.
Open Flight logger and click on PP.
Fly the flight and lock the flight for S002.

There is obviously a problem with the script somewhere along the line...because when i click on the EMB120's at Lisbon, S001 dont appear:s
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Post by: EHM-0502 Desmond on December 31, 2005, 12:39:29 pm
Someone with access to the website/databases needs to make the fix.
Title: Events Section - Any doubts posted here!
Post by: EHM-1617 Iain on December 31, 2005, 03:31:21 pm
I can't see S001 in the list either.
Title: Events Section - Any doubts posted here!
Post by: EHM-1670 Bill on December 31, 2005, 04:33:37 pm
I off out now until next year so maybe I will miss it.

Happy New Year everyone.
Title: Events Section - Any doubts posted here!
Post by: EHM-1617 Iain on December 31, 2005, 04:46:04 pm
Just to be clear, the flight has to be made using PP to be eligible... and 1900Z is fast approaching (the official IVAO flight time). It is impossible to do this because the S001 flight does not appear in the PP list on the E120 aircraft at Lisbon, even though the server time is on the 31st Dec.
Title: Events Section - Any doubts posted here!
Post by: EHM-1617 Iain on December 31, 2005, 07:17:16 pm
Has anyone actually managed to reserve in PP the E120s S001 flight? I haven't managed yet. And 1900Z has been and gone :'(

EDIT: It seems that the 'lock flight' procedure is behaving as if S001 is a Main Divison flight, class 1. It allows you to lock it with any Main Division Aircraft as long as it is class 1 2 or 3 (i.e. the same as if it was a Class 1 Main Division Flight). So I think that the problem is that in PP the flight is listed as a Class 1 Main Division Flight (as shown in the Logger) instead of a Class 3 EuroHolidays flight which would allow it to be locked on the E120s instead of the Main Division Class 1, 2, and 3 planes.
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Post by: EHM-0502 Desmond on December 31, 2005, 09:03:52 pm
Its getting late now, will have to see what happens tomorrow. Maybe by then someone will have fixed the problem? :o
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Post by: EHM-1617 Iain on December 31, 2005, 10:31:26 pm
But then, it will be too late to do the first leg :]:%

Also, the 'server time' function seems to be mucking up also. At no time zone in the US is it currently 03:36 - the mainland timezones range between 14:36 and 17:36 and the island time zones are between 07:36 and 18:36 at the extremes!

Hmm we seem to be getting some problems at the moment. I still think that the locking problem is due to the flights being listed on the timetable as Class 1 Main Division.
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Post by: EHM-0502 Desmond on January 01, 2006, 10:01:36 am
Well, still unable to lock flight S001. Might have to drive the first leg!;) Maybe we'll be able to do the other legs.
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Post by: EHM-1617 Iain on January 01, 2006, 10:44:43 am
Only little problem, the E120s are at LPPT ;)

I think that as no-one was able to do the first leg, Management are going to need to do something so that the event can go ahead. How about moving it forward one day, if the timetable can be fixed by the end of today? ;D
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Post by: EHM-1657 Jay on January 01, 2006, 01:11:44 pm
I was able to do the first two legs though, using the Dornier 328-120 which had flight # S001 to it
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Post by: EHM-1617 Iain on January 01, 2006, 02:15:51 pm
Yeah, but to complete the event (and get the award) you have to use the E120. It seems we're pretty well buggered up! :%:o
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Post by: EHM-1628 Jarle on January 01, 2006, 03:16:00 pm
This problem was unexpected, and we are working to solve it.
Unfortunatly it seems like we have to wait until ca. 22:00 UTC tonight before it will work as planned.
Dont' worry about the time limit for the first legs. We will, og course, expand them so you will be able to fly them.
We apologize for these problems, but hope you all bear with us.

Kindly regard
Jarle Brønstad
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Post by: EHM-1657 Jay on January 01, 2006, 08:50:59 pm
Jarle, I was able to fly the two first legs with the dornier 328-120 flight number S001 and S002 , I am not going to have to do them again am I ?
Title: Events Section - Any doubts posted here!
Post by: EHM-0948 Bruno on January 01, 2006, 09:08:02 pm
Hi people,

Sorry but we got a small problem due to db problems.

So, everything is set up now. You can lock your flights!!

Kindly regards and sorry for the incovenience.
Title: Events Section - Any doubts posted here!
Post by: EHM-1657 Jay on January 01, 2006, 09:15:22 pm
Bruno ? I do not have to start over do I ?
Title: Events Section - Any doubts posted here!
Post by: EHM-0948 Bruno on January 01, 2006, 09:17:51 pm
Hi,

It was not your problem, so you don't need to start it all over again. Go with the Dornier until the end.

Also, if pilots started the flight with other airplanes, just inform your respective hub managers of it.

The other ones, start with the regular embraers please.

Good luck in our adventure!!
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Post by: EHM-1657 Jay on January 01, 2006, 09:21:05 pm
So what happens if someone snatches that one dornier from me ... I am stuck then correct ?
Title: Events Section - Any doubts posted here!
Post by: EHM-0948 Bruno on January 01, 2006, 09:55:52 pm
Yes. You are stuck.

That's why I really suggest that after you fill the pirep lock the airplane immediately.

Regards,
Title: Events Section - Any doubts posted here!
Post by: EHM-1657 Jay on January 01, 2006, 10:00:40 pm
lol I have just started over with an Emb, I do not wish to risk missing out
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Post by: EHM-1670 Bill on January 02, 2006, 08:34:03 am
This is crazy. There are (as shown in the events section) 8 aircraft for an active pilot list of over 150. That presumably means that only 8 people can compete in this event which does make it rather elitist. That is not what a VA should be about especially when there are members in time zones all over the world.

If an event is scheduled to start at a particular time then fine - a personal decision can be made as to whether to be around at that time. The start time should have been re-scheduled.

Rant over.
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Post by: EHM-1358 Tim on January 02, 2006, 09:56:49 am
Someone crashed CS-EID and it wasn't me, I got a flight score of 0. Now its gone. :s
Title: Events Section - Any doubts posted here!
Post by: EHM-0948 Bruno on January 02, 2006, 10:30:02 am
Hi Tim. It's solved out.

It was a technical database problem as we talk about it ... I don't know what triggered it.

The airplane is active again. Have a good flight.
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Post by: EHM-1358 Tim on January 02, 2006, 10:53:08 am
Will do! ;D
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Post by: EHM-0948 Bruno on January 02, 2006, 11:00:01 am
Hi Bill,

Unfortunately I have personally apologize for that.

The only responsible here was me who, even with some internal MT suggestions to increase the number of airplanes for the event, did stayed with the first option of only load 8 embraers. And the problem was not to bad because we already had 3 there. So that makes 11. Even so, very short now.

Bill, next event I will not do the same mistake. I promise you ;) ...

Regards,
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Post by: EHM-2TZ Paulo on January 02, 2006, 04:40:41 pm
hello , i can´t see the aircraft online , why ?
Title: Events Section - Any doubts posted here!
Post by: EHM-0948 Bruno on January 02, 2006, 04:59:24 pm
Hi Adelio,

Welcome to the Forum.

Are you doing a ProPilot flight ? Using flight logger ?
Title: Events Section - Any doubts posted here!
Post by: EHM-0948 Bruno on January 02, 2006, 06:08:31 pm
People,

I got a annoying situation of a pilot that was waiting for other to finish his flight, to quickly "steal" the airplane from the first pilot.

I will not give names, but I want to advise you not to do it because it's very annoying to the pilot that is doing all the legs with that airplane.

I forced the unlock from the the second one, and gave the airplane to the correct first pilot.

Regards,
Title: Events Section - Any doubts posted here!
Post by: EHM-0502 Desmond on January 02, 2006, 09:26:42 pm
If these events are so popular more planes should be made available. ;)
Title: Events Section - Any doubts posted here!
Post by: EHM-2TZ Paulo on January 02, 2006, 10:53:13 pm
yes i use propilot and the logger...
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Post by: EHM-0079 Simão on January 02, 2006, 11:53:48 pm
As Events Manager please apologize me... i was abroad for some days for holidays so i was unnable to help Bruno and all people from MT on the starting of Dakar..
You are right... 8 planes are very few but we didn´t expect so much popularity of this event...
In next events the things will be different...
Till there, enjoy the Dakar! :>
Safe landings,
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Post by: EHM-1703 Philip on January 07, 2006, 03:15:07 pm
Well it looks like this event is going down a storm...... It's that popular that now someone stole the plane I have flown 7 legs from lisbon with! Ahh well, hopefully the next one will go alittle smoother. :%
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Post by: EHM-1670 Bill on January 08, 2006, 07:46:35 am
That's outrageous. Whoever did that should be booted out. Bruno has already warned about that. Hopefully he can get it back for you to carry on.
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Post by: EHM-0948 Bruno on January 08, 2006, 04:56:27 pm
Hi,

The situation is solved. No one will be booted out. I am sure Desmond didnt made it to harm someone. It's just the "heat of the game" ;) ..

So, everything is back to normal. Have fun and all I can guarantee is that this is not Desmond's totally fault. If we have inserted more airplanes none of this had happened.

Regards,
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Post by: EHM-1703 Philip on January 08, 2006, 06:31:25 pm
Thanks Bruno,

Just setting up for the flight now. I appreciate your help.

Cheers
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Post by: EHM-0502 Desmond on January 09, 2006, 06:36:21 pm
How do I get my plane back so I can carry on? I did NOT crash and My plane is now gone?. Please remedy this!
Also, I should be able to carry on with leg 9 as I have already done the other legs.