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Title: ProPilot Event is almost ready ;)
Post by: EHM-0948 Bruno on February 07, 2007, 04:04:21 pm: Hi,

We are almost finishing the next ProPilot Event!

I am sure this one will be as great as the last ones ;) ...
Unveiling the surprise a little bit:

- Starts at 1th March, ends at 9th November! (yes, an all year event).

- Will have a fully designed heavy airplane for it.

- 25 legs: Shorter with 400nm, and the biggest one with 4000nm ;)

And that's all for now! We will try to announce it on the next weekend ;)

Regards,
Title: ProPilot Event is almost ready ;)
Post by: EHM-1612 Paolo on February 07, 2007, 06:40:54 pm: :o To the moon and back? :o
Title: ProPilot Event is almost ready ;)
Post by: EHM-2033 Miguel on February 07, 2007, 06:45:50 pm: Bet this will be my first Pro Pilot event, but hey 4000nm.. That will be a long strech... :>
Looking forward to it!
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Post by: EHM-1883 Matt on February 07, 2007, 11:29:33 pm: hmm, I don't think I can do it, because of school stuff. Have fun everyone!
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Post by: EHM-1703 Philip on February 07, 2007, 11:44:02 pm: You will have longer to do each leg as well on this event! on average most legs have over 5 days to complete them... Some much longer, so you should have plenty of time to fit in the long legs. :)
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Post by: EHM-1821 Javier on February 08, 2007, 08:05:34 am: omg, 4000nm? how long is that? ive not done many flights more than 2 hrs long :]
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Post by: EHM-0641 Rico on February 08, 2007, 08:38:26 am: Basic calculation gives you, that using a B747, with a cruising speed of 505 knots, 4000nm would take you 7 hours, 55 minutes, and 14 seconds.

Not taking in account weather, cruising altitude, payload, etc etc etc ..... ;D
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Post by: EHM-1821 Javier on February 08, 2007, 09:33:34 am: oh crap! thats loooooooong lol, dont think i'll have much time to fly that long but i'll see when the event is out hehe

thx for the info Rico! and also the other stuff added to make the flight longer or shorter:]:]:]
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Post by: EHM-1657 Jay on February 08, 2007, 09:47:15 am: Ah ... LOVE it, thanks Bruno !!
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Post by: EHM-0948 Bruno on February 08, 2007, 11:34:40 am: Actually you don't need to be worried about the long legs, because, as Phil said, you have almost 2 weeks to complete them.

Regards,
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Post by: EHM-1749 Hector on February 08, 2007, 02:42:44 pm: Hi Bruno,
it looks interesting and for sure I will go for it eventhough for this year I have a personal task.
As you may know this year is the 70th anniversary of Amelia Earhart's unfinished Around the World flight which ended tragically in July 3, 1937 trying to land in a tiny Pacific island called Howland.
She was flying a Lockheed Electra L10E, tail-wheel twin piston engine, specially designed to accomodate up to 1100 gls of fuel.
I already have the aircraft and the flight plans and plan to start in May for this 25,000 nm trip which is about 250 hours. At the moment I am learning to fly the plane and getting used to fuel usage, landing procedures, etc. It has no GPS, no VOR but only NDB. No FS Navigator is allowed so this will be an interesting flight.
So, the sooner the better for this Propilot event since I will be sort of busy from May to July.
Cheers,
Hector
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Post by: EHM-1883 Matt on February 08, 2007, 03:54:41 pm: Rico, are you sure about that? I did a 6000nm flight, and it only took 6 hours, and I went slower then the speed you've given, and can't remember my flight level
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Post by: EHM-0695 Scott on February 08, 2007, 04:34:14 pm: Matt,

Was that a Concorde? By my math 6,000 nm in 6 hrs is (Distance divided by time) a speed of 1,000 nm/hr (knots)! Or maybe there was time acceleration in there. Let's all remember the Boeing 747-400 typically cruises at (according to Boeing) Mach 0.845 @ 35,000 feet. This converts to ~ 489-495 knots true airspeed depending on conditions at altitude.
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Post by: EHM-1651 Christian on February 08, 2007, 05:17:35 pm: Quote
Originally posted by EHM-0695 Scott
Matt,

Was that a Concorde? By my math 6,000 nm in 6 hrs is (Distance divided by time) a speed of 1,000 nm/hr (knots)! Or maybe there was time acceleration in there. Let's all remember the Boeing 747-400 typically cruises at (according to Boeing) Mach 0.845 @ 35,000 feet. This converts to ~ 489-495 knots true airspeed depending on conditions at altitude.

If that was a Concord it was with midair refueling aswell;D
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Post by: EHM-0948 Bruno on February 08, 2007, 05:31:15 pm: Hi Matt,

It's impossible mate ;D ... a 6000nm flight is a very long flight and will took you more than time :)

A 500nm flight takes 1:30h ... from that you can do your own maths ;)
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Post by: EHM-1883 Matt on February 08, 2007, 05:58:10 pm: I know, it does sound weird, and I know my physics, I think:o

But, all I can say is, I didn't use time accelaration, I didn't use a concorde, and here is the flight:

http://www.fly-euroharmony.com/site/manu/flightstats2.php?id=C308

Some people there have got 5 hours!

This could be the EHM mystery, which is weird, since I'm flying right now, and I worked out that it's 3000nm long, and the speed I'm flying at, I should arrive at about the same ETA:o
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Post by: EHM-0695 Scott on February 08, 2007, 06:02:47 pm: Dude New York to London is not 6,000 nm

http://gc.kls2.com/cgi-bin/gc?PATH=KJFK-EGLL&RANGE=&PATH-COLOR=&PATH-UNITS=nm&SPEED-GROUND=490&SPEED-UNITS=kts&RANGE-STYLE=best&RANGE-COLOR=&MAP-STYLE=

It is definitely feasible with the jetstream winds for aircraft to cruise at over 600 knots *groundspeed* .... the true airspeed may only be 490 knots... but with at 110 knot tailwind (very possible - and lately I've been getting upper wind readings of 130+ knots) you got 600 knots. Look up a recent flight westbound over the pond ... I bet it took 8 hours or more with a nasty headwind.
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Post by: EHM-1612 Paolo on February 08, 2007, 07:10:23 pm: 6000nm is close to Heathrow to Changi (5879nm), I did Changi to Frankfurt on 15th January and I spent 13hours...on a 747-400, so I think the total time is around 14 hours in real life.
http://www.fly-euroharmony.com/site/manu/flightstats2.php?id=1080
This is it in FS
Title: ProPilot Event is almost ready ;)
Post by: EHM-1883 Matt on February 08, 2007, 10:41:54 pm: ah, it's because of Routefinder. Routefinder said it's 6000nm, but I forgot about the waypoints:{ Sorry everyone:$