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Archive => ProPilot => Old Forum => ProPilot Events => Topic started by: EHM-0948 Bruno on February 12, 2007, 01:53:21 am
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Dear pilots,
The 2007 Formula One event is released!
The event starts at 1th March, and ends at 8th November. An all-year event this time ;).
The event will have a special airplane designed for it: A Boeing 747-400F EuroCargo "Champion Mover" airplane.
You can see the event details on the Events section, as always :) ...
The original idea was from Ricardo Pedrosa. We thank him for that.
Don't forget that if you wish to join the event, please send me an email with your pilot id and name!.
We are not responsible if you start the event with an airplane that will not be reserved for you, and later he is, by mistake, stolen from other pilot!
Any doubts, comments, etc, please post them here.
Regards and welcome!!
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Great idea! I think I will be joining this event (although I gotta check my planning for this year carefully, things like graduation and my first "real" job are things to keep in mind). One question: will the PMDG 747-400F be allowed for this event?
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hmm. I've got to take in account my exams this year. I'm going to be very busy, but considering how long each leg is and how long we have to do it, I think I will do it;D
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Hi,
Yes, we will develop a special PMDG 747-400F airplane texture for this event too :).
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hmm, F1 ehh? its not quite fast compared to our 744Fs hehe;D;D;D
I love the idea;D i'll consider joining once the event when i see the flights schedule..
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Wow! I was going to write down that I won't be able to join because of summer holidays and school, but I've just seen the schedule and we have a month to do the legs in august and july, so also if I don't like the 747 ;D I'm Going to join in my first PP event!!!
Hoorrayy!!! :8
P.S. We're going to Milan aswell!!
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Yaoouh. I will do that one for sure.
Sounds Great.
Cheers
Kristoff
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Bruno.
This event is a great one for sure and my personal thanks to you and all other guys that you do all the preparations needed for us, including Ricardo as well for the idea. But, and this is just for a little bit of thinking: what about a few shorter and faster PP events in meantime? Regardless the legs are very long and we have enough of time to complete them, there is a plenty of time left. So, why not make a good use of time left?
Peter LGAV HM
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Wonderful stuff, I am SOOOO in !!!
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Mensagem original enviada por EHM-0471 Peter
Bruno.
This event is a great one for sure and my personal thanks to you and all other guys that you do all the preparations needed for us, including Ricardo as well for the idea. But, and this is just for a little bit of thinking: what about a few shorter and faster PP events in meantime? Regardless the legs are very long and we have enough of time to complete them, there is a plenty of time left. So, why not make a good use of time left?
Peter LGAV HM
It was my thinking when I gave the suggestion. But I don't remember if I told that to Bruno. May the management decide! ;)
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Hi,
Yes, there will be parallel ProPilot events along the way.
I already have some thoughts about the next PP event that will run parallel to this one, but let me fully prepare this one so I can start preparing the next one ...
The next one it's going to be around May ...
Regards,
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Hi, is it going to be possible to complete normal pro pilot filghts whilst doing the event? for instance if yr plane is in kuala lumper would u be able fly something else or will we have to have a 24hr break so the travel mode expires and also leave 24hr before start of next leg?
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exactly as you said Kevin.
Wait 24h to be freed. Start 24h earlier to do the next PP flight :)
Also, if you send me an email with your sign in pilot id and name, your airplane will always be reserved for you.
It means that you can still fly other airplanes, but the other pilots cannot lock your reserved airplane 747-400F stationed at the airport.
Regards,
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Will there be also events without the ProPilot System in the future?
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Hi,
For now it's not being considered. The idea was based using the ProPilot feature ...
Regards,
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Originally posted by EHM-0948 Bruno
Hi,
For now it's not being considered. The idea was based using the ProPilot feature ...
Regards,
I see, then enjoy your event :]
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I have 2 questions:
-Do we have to set weather or install sceneries like during the UNHCR event?
-Are we going to use a different version of 747-400F from the one we have in the Fleet page, or will it be the same?? This is just for my training on the plane, because I have to learn quickly how to fly this 747 (I've never done a flight with it...) without crashing...:s
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Hi Paolo,
if you fly online, the weather is live. In any other cases you decide. I think it is advised to install sceneries, but only for the pleasure ;D All of the destinations are big international airports, that are included in FS, but is not it better to taxi on a nicely detailed airport ?
The 747F will be "new" It means, the freeware model will fly like the latest 747 passenger variant. If you command that well, you will not have problems with the cargo variant either. The most important difference is the fuel useage, and you need to take care more of the balance while loading the cargo ;) Of course PMDG is PMDG, you need to know that well. But if you got into trouble you always have the Autoland feature there :P
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Hi,
We have 21 pilots already signed it for the Event! I think, in 48h, we broke the pilot's record on the Event :o ...
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Originally posted by EHM-1001 Robert
The 747F will be "new" It means, the freeware model will fly like the latest 747 passenger variant. If you command that well, you will not have problems with the cargo variant either. The most important difference is the fuel useage, and you need to take care more of the balance while loading the cargo ;) Of course PMDG is PMDG, you need to know that well. But if you got into trouble you always have the Autoland feature there :P
Thank for the quick reply Robert, so you think I'd better train with my 747-400PMDG and not with EHM 747-400F?
I'm terrified about flying that beast :]
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Bruno, I never said whether I'm going to do this event or not, but I've made my choice. Sign me up!;D
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Hi Matt,
Please send me an email :)
Regards,
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No Paolo,
a little missunderstanding. I do not know much about the PMDG handling especially the cargo version. That should be identical with the pax version. What I will do at the freeware Meljet model is to copy the pax dynamics over the cargo one, and adjust the payload and fuel useage. So really they will be identical. I guess PMDG did something similar ;)
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Thank you Robert for explaining this :8
Then, I'll just wait for the new 747-400F to come out and I'll do some practice ;D
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Bruno.
I'd like to propose you an idea, which may be something new and interesting. Do you have a chance to create a list of all pilots participants in the event and put in all current data concerning each pilot, so we all can see our own status and position and the same of all others. I have in mind the data such as: present location, total miles flown, consumption of the fuel, time spent for the flights. etc. A matter of debate I guess. But this should be very challenging for all, let say if we compete about leadership in consumption of the fuel, or something simmilar.
Peter
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Well ... it's possible to do it manually (I need to go to the log tables and do all those calculations, etc) so it would consume me a lot of time ..
But maybe it's something interesting to put on our development queue ;) ...
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I would like to say that Peter's idea is excellent. Wish it could be implemented.
BTW Bruno,
I sent my email but I have not yet received confirmation that I am in.
Best Regards,
Hector
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Hi,
I didnt sent email confirmations to anyone :) ...
When i start to give tail ids I will tell it here and then you can confirm if you received yours ;) ...
Regards,
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I'll not take part in the complete event (not being a fan of the 74x...) but if we have an online "first leg" I'll accompany in my private CRJ 200.
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Haha, Murray, you should board some media members who will tell the World about us flying this tour ;D
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Hi Murray,
Yeap, I thought about that too.
Please arrange a special fly-in for us if you can ;) ... I would vote for 3/4 of March ...
Regards,
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For me it's okay for 3-4 March too ;D
I'm looking foward for this so much!
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Hi,
Just a simple question - How to avoid the beacon penalty on the PMDG 747-F ?
Thank you
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Hi,
We just made a piece of code that will remove that penalty when you submit your flight.
Regards,
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This sounds like a wonderful event.
But what about us lowly ranks? Do we have to achieve ATP by the beginning of the event or are we allowed to fly birds outside our EHM class?
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the planes will be set as Class 1 planes so low rank pilots can also fly the event :)
like the MD-17 is a Class 6 aircraft
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Hi,
I just sent all the emails for all the pilots that asked for an airplane reservation.
I count 41 pilots. Definately a record! Congratulations to all of you :)
Please, send me an email if you did not receive my email. Do not write here that you had received it please.
Regards,
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For those who will be flying PMDG 747-400, check this nice tutorial! ;)
http://library.avsim.net/esearch.php?CatID=fs2004misc&DLID=98097
It's for the PAX version, but it should help with the freighter version!
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Also for the PMDG 747-400 here is a fantastic check list especialy made for the PMDG B744
http://library.avsim.net/search.php?SearchTerm=pmdg747ncl.zip&CatID=root&Go=Search
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When the plane is going to be on the fleet page? :8
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Probably this weekend :P
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Thx Robert ;)
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The Meljet (freeware) model is up. ;) If you have the pax version of the 747, you can share its panel and sound set if you prefer that one.
Stay tuned for the PMDG textures ;)
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I received some last minute emails ... Will process them as soon as I can.
We have almost 50 pilots registered! What a record !!!
Regards,
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wow! What about the fly-in for the first leg(s)??? ;)
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Quick question. Robert, i know you must be putting in a huge amount of work painting the aircraft livery for us which is greatly appreciated. Will the PMDG repaint be finished by the 1st March??
If not, will we be allowed to fly the first leg or two using the PMDG house livery for the 747-400F until our repaint is ready?
I only ask as i bought the PMDG 747-400F especially for this event - dedication or what ;).
Many thanks, Jim
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hmm, Bruno, whenever I send a message to your io.pt E-mail adress, it just says that it can't be sent. Is there another account I have to use?
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Do not worry guys, the PMDG repaint will arrive in time ;) ... doh, nasty kids ;D
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@ Jim
You are not alone, i bought the 747 and the 747F from PMDG, with this event in mind. More than dedication......LOL
I have the beast almost domesticated. My last flight with PP, overspeed below 10000ft, after a missed approach...eheheh.
Do you have the 747F operation manual from PMDG?
Cheers
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Yep, have the manual plus have done all the TRC lessons from the PMDG website!!
Not that i'm excited about this event or anything.....lol
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Matt,
Please send it to my Euroharmony account: bruno@fly-euroharmony.com.
Thanks.
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Hi,
I have just downloaded the F1 B747. Great job! Thanks for this nice livery.
I wonder whether the PMDG livery can be adapted to the iFly 747 which is quite similar to the PMDG, but is free ;)
Anyone is using this plane?
Regards,
Luciano
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Well, except some 3D model unreality, the Meljet model is much beautiful than the iFly one. If you want to use its panel you can merge the 2 planes. ;)
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I downloaded it last night too, a bit big for those of use with just dial-up but well worth it. Made a test flight from EGLL LSGG and it flew beautifully... can't wait to take the 'Champion Mover' around the world! ;D
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Downloaded it too and did a few test landings at the first arrival (Kuwait).
First with my trusted Falcon and then with the Champion Mover.
Although I do not possess the ATP rating and I'm not experienced in the type, I found it more forgiving than the Falcon in some situations. (Of course it's probably 'cause the Falcon's dynamics are rather old).
Excellent work! Can't wait for the event to start.
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Ok mates, the Events page has been updated with a link for all the "Champion Mover" versions.
We have our default texture and a special one for PMDG.
On my clock it is 30 mins to start the event! ... We wish good luck to everyone and remember that you can't crash your airplane!
GOOD LUCK PILOTS!
EHM MT TEAM
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I've just been trying to book my flight and it seems there is no flight available :( The server is now at 2007-03-01 time = 1204 so it has just turned March 1st so the first flight should be available and it is not.
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Ops, because of some earlier tests, I forgot to change the start and end leg dates for the first flight :o ..
It's solved now, and you can reserve the flight.
Good luck!
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Thanks Bruno !
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Ok now I have unfortunate news, real life situations will have to force me to pull out of the race before it has even started, sorry to be a bother to you guys, good luck to you all !!
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There were several first leg flights at the same time today. Was fun. :)
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Yeap, 3 flights already made. One with zero penalties, the others with some :)
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Wow, right now there are 7 of us flying; 4 the first leg and 3 the second leg. Seems like the F1 race can take place as planned.
(http://devric.net/images/acars1.jpg)
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Yes Magnus, that was very nice! ;D
Sorry, how many hours does it take for the second leg? 7-8?
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Hey guys, im having a big problem, everytime with 1hr and 48mins left, my FS crashes, everytime its over Iraq, im wondering if its my FS or something else because everytime i approach there, my Frame rates start to decrease and finally at 1hrs 48mins left, it crashes, wasting 3 of my flights :'(
this time, i was in fullscreen, with only FScreen, Flight Logger and Ivae on... :%
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Great shot Magnus ! I have a feeling, that in the past I knew Magnus Larsson...or did I mix something ?
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Paolo: It took me about 7,5 hours for the second leg.
Robert, you are correct. :) I was once Magnus Larsson, former Chief of Development, former Chief of Operations. Worked pretty close (and hard?) with Gergely and Maarten back in 2003 - beginning 2004. I actually made the very first prototype version of a flight logger. It wasn't mandatory to use it then, it was just an extra thing you could use if you wanted to. It has been developed since then I'm happy to say, hehe. I also made the first Badge Generator GUI, the ATC callsigns, Tour of Sweden, Capitals of Europe tour, helped Gergely with several aircraft repaints, the divisions' pages that still are in use (EuroBusiness, EuroCargo and EuroHolidays), and probably something else. Let me tell you: it took a lot of work to earn that Medal of Honor.. ;D As I remember it you were pretty active back then too, maybe even in management?
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A quick question for the management regarding the pro-pilot penalties.
I received the penalty in my first flight for overspeed above 250 kts below 10,000 ft in the PMDG 747. I think this penalty needs urgent review as the clean speed for a heavily laden 747 is above 250 IAS, in this case my clean climb speed below 10,000 was 268 IAS. It is well known that "heavy" aircraft are cleared to above their clean speed below 10,000ft even if that exceeds 250 IAS.
Any chance this could be sorted or i am going to get this penalty every flight as i guess will all pmdg users!!
Otherwise great first leg!!
Jim
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Nice Magnus ! ;D I was a little confused, but now it is all clear, thx ;)
Jim, you can still set a speed restriction on the FMC, so the beast stay below 250 kts. I myself fly only at 230 until 10000. I used to fly it without VNAV, because it did not let sometimes to input the restrictions. Also it misscalculates some fixes sometimes, and can cause a 4500 fpm penalty too within 5 seconds. I like the safer way :P ...but generally you can fly with it below 250 kts ;)
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True Robert but not very realistic. Would mean having flaps 1 or 5 all the way up to 10,000 ft ?
Can any of our experienced ATC members advise regarding clearing heavy traffic to speeds greater than 250 IAS below 10,000 ?
Cheers, Jim
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Hi Jim,
The Flight Logger only gives you the penalty if you exceed 280kn. That's the maximum high speed approval beneath FL100.
Regards,
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Ah, many thanks Bruno.
Should be able to keep below that even if fully loaded i guess.
Thanks for the info, jim
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Can anybody tell me where my flight has gone?
It does show up in the timetable but not in PP, and yes it's flown with PP on.
I've got the ACARS and flightlog saved if you want.
please help
cheers Niels,
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After did the first leg, I think the freeware 744F is a bit slow in turns under autopilot. If you feel it too, change this parameter in the aircraft.CFG file:
[autopilot]
max_bank=20.0 ... to ... 25.0
Have fun ;)
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Niels, can you remember when you logged the PIREP? Did it say it was successfully submitted? Because I had this problem too, and it was because of a short break in the internet connection half way through. When I logged the PIREP, I had to scroll down the window to get the big, red "Attention!" box - if I hadn't, I wouldn't have known that it couldn't be submitted. You still get the hours for it, though, which is why it appears in the timetable but not in PP.
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Hi Ben,
I flew from 10.13 til 14.56 CET and submitted the flight direct after. The message i had was "no errors"
so that's why i was surprised PP didn't logged it. I checked the ACARS for it, but there was no report of an internetconnection break, wich i btw never had any problems with,as far as i know.
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Javier,
If you're still having problems my first guess would be a scenery conflict if it always happens in the same geographic area.
So, do you have any addon scenery/airports/landclass or AFCADs for that part of the world? If so disable them (by renaming them and adding ".bak" at the end of their current name so FS9 won't load them or by moving them entirely out of your FS root folder).
See if this solves the problem. I know that landclass files in particular have caused many crashes - a landclass folder must NEVER have a texture folder associated with it as this causes a memory leak and eventual crash.
Let me know if that works...
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Hi Niels,
We never got that error so I would suggest you try again in order to know if that's a problem or not.
Regards,
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Originally posted by EHM-1465 Dominic
Javier,
If you're still having problems my first guess would be a scenery conflict if it always happens in the same geographic area.
So, do you have any addon scenery/airports/landclass or AFCADs for that part of the world? If so disable them (by renaming them and adding ".bak" at the end of their current name so FS9 won't load them or by moving them entirely out of your FS root folder).
See if this solves the problem. I know that landclass files in particular have caused many crashes - a landclass folder must NEVER have a texture folder associated with it as this causes a memory leak and eventual crash.
Let me know if that works...
Sorry, i have no scenery of anywhere in or near Iraq that i can recall and i've checked. Thanks though :)
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Hi Javier,
have you tried routing via S. Arabia, totally by-passing Iraq?
And my suggestion is: have an offline flight like this, max out the sim rate, wait until you go past the 1hr prior to ldg mark and if it works, then do the PP.
Maybe this way, you'll be more sure that you'll avoid the disappointment.
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Hi Sotiris,
i havent tried yet but im flying it via Saudi on thursday. i have my sim rates always set on unlimited, and the frame rates started dropping when i reached within 1hr to the crash on my last attempts, all online though
I think i'll fly PP just in case i can get through and i will be able to send the PIREP
Thanks :)
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Just a word of warning to you all that i have learnt the hard way!!
If you use real world weather with 15 min updates then dont leave your pc unattended for a second ! I did this on the second leg, left cockpit for no more than 20 mins to have some tea and when i got back there was a real weather update error message which caused real world weather to turn off causing sudden change in wind at FL350 leading to an overspeed and aircraft overstress!!
My advice, dont use real world weather and autopilotunless you can sit at your pc for 5 hours with out leaving.
Enjoy the event guys - i'm out but will be keeping up with all your progress.
Jim :'(
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That sounds so unfair/unlucky...
I feel for you mate. So early in the event.
Thanks for the advice!
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Jim,
You still can pick one spare airplane from the list.
Guys, I think we are misunderstanding one thing. When we say that we don't have spare airplanes for you, it means that after the first leg deadline passed you cannot get another airplane from the list because all of the source airplanes will be locked down on the first airport.
On this case, you still can pick up another airplane until 17th March. After that, you must end the event with the airplane that you have.
So, Jim, pick another airplane, and send me an email so I can reserve it for you.
Regards,
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Well, finally in Melbourne safe and sound.
Considering my inexperience on the type, I'm mighty happy to have made thus far!
I noticed something though and wonder if the rest of you noticed.
Although I hit no significant head winds the bird's consumption was somewhat more than I expected by quite a percentage.
Has anyone else experienced this, or was it just my bad planning (fuel-wise)?
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Well, I flew the 2nd leg yesterday on the MelJet model, and I also misscalculated the fuel, but in the other direction.
On a 80% range distance, I filled 80% fuel, and almost the half left...I guess because of the massive tailwind, and the low amount of payload.
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i had fuel problems with the meljet too, i didnt encounter any winds more than 5kts during cruise until i closed in to Malaysia, i carried 9 hours worth of fuel, calculating from the FS Flightplan Navigation Log, however, i was forced to save fuel and slow down seeing that i may not have enough fuel. around 1hr+ maximum on the amount of fuel i had on engine shutdown... :s
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Hi Javier,
I would never rely on FS fuel planning. It is much better if you check your takeoff weight, and browse a Boeing manual to guess the needed fuel. What I used to do is, fill the fuel percentage according to the distance. For a 50% range distance I fill 50% fuel. That is not very accurate, but I never got into trouble with this easy expression.
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Hi Robert, thx for the advice, i'll go look up some 744 stuff on the boeing website:)
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Do i have to wait until 19th of March to start out from Melbourne or can i just continue flying regardless to Start dates?
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Sorry Per,
This is a real world event, you can not leave Melbourne until after the GP on Sunday therefore all cargo will start to leave on Monday.
The dates are quite strict and the flights will only become active after the start date of that leg. (If you try to lock the next leg you will notice there are currently no flights available)
Enjoy your time off in Melbourne! It's still summer there! :)
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Hi all,
Is it still possible to fly the first leg to melbourne? I've been trying to get a plane today but they're all already locked. Any help much appreciated.
Cheers
Chris
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Chris,
Youve got mail! :)
Cheers,
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Hi guys, sorry but I'm unable to complete the event due to issues with the distance of the legs and my computer - I think it might be a problem with the CPU overheating but I am not sure at this stage. I will still be investigating it but I think, practically, I can't complete the rest of the tour if I have to fly each leg twice (which I have had to do up to now).
Anyway, thank you very much for an enjoyable beginning of the tour! For those of you who are continuing, enjoy it ;)
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too bad you cant fly this event, Ben, have fun flying other flights!
btw, i proved you wrong, i managed to fly long haul :P:];D
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Ohhhh, Ben! That's so sad! I'm sorry u r going to miss the event... :[
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I'm afraid I can't really do the event either. around september, I'm going to be away for a long time, so I might not make it, but I will try.
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better to fly till then and see than stop now and lose the opportunity to get hours and a better PP score ;) :] ;D
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Hello!
Unfortunately I will be forced to retire from the event. My PC had some problems and I will not be able to fix it in time to fly the 3rd leg until 17th March. :[ Good luck for all of you!
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Small question.. Can I fly the leg I'm missing on the 17th? or must those legs be completed before the 17th? Because I may not be able to do it today... and I really wouldn't want ot miss the rest of this event...
kind regards
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Originally posted by EHM-2033 Miguel
Can I fly the leg I'm missing on the 17th? or must those legs be completed before the 17th? Because I may not be able to do it today... and I really wouldn't want ot miss the rest of this event...
kind regards
Hi Miguel,
if it's the 'Melbourne' Legs you're referring to, then you will have to do them within the dates mentioned. :'(
Better get airborne soon... ;D
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Mates,
The last week was very bad for me on the office and I didn't got time to check out the emails.
Some of them were related with the F1 event and with some things that I had to do, so I decided to delay the last two legs until March 22th.
This only applies for the last two legs.
Regards,
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GO KIMI!!! GO FERRARI!!!;);D
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Originally posted by EHM-1612 Paolo
GO KIMI!!! GO FERRARI!!!;);D
same here ;D Massa did a great job starting from the back too ;D;D;D
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Sorry if the F1 teams fail to make it to the starting line but im still stuck here in Kuwait.
After the problems i had with the 2nd leg (mentioned elsewhere in the forums---power cut--)
I was unable due to time constraints make it to Melbourne:$
So good luck to the rest of you .Hope you continue to shift that equipment around the world.
p.s.
I work for Michelin in the real world perhaps i realised you won't be needing my cargo after all :]
steve
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Steve,
You have until 22th.
Regards,
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http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/motorsport/formula_one/6536661.stm
Massa raced at his best....great race from Hamilton too, poor Ferrari :[
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Hehehe, Maclaren get their first win for 18 months, I hope it is the first of many for Alonso and Hamilton. I am so Happy for Ron Dennis, he is one of the sports greatest ambassadors and a really nice guy.
I think Massa made a terrible mistake when trying to overtake Hamilton for the second time and I think that played on his mind for the rest of the race as he never seemed in contention after going off at turn 4. If Kimi had another 4 or 5 laps I am sure he would have got that Ferrari past Hamilton!
I think the tragedy of the season so far is Renault and Honda.... Both teams have completely lost all momentum and BMW & Williams seemed to have gained it!
Ok guys, let's load up.... Next stop Dubai and only a week to complete the flight!
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Isin't it the Bahrain Grand Prix next?
Don't recall any race in Dubai :%
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You are quite correct Javier, I don't know where I managed to come up with Dubai.... Maybe I just fancy a visit myself! :)
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The first shipment have arrived to Bahrein. The cargo terminal is very small. Unpack the plane and move it out ASAP ;)
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Guys,
Just a gentle reminder the Malaysia - Bahrain leg needs completing before Sunday!!!!
(Australlia - Lewis Hamilton 3rd, Malaysia - Lewis Hamilton 2nd..... Bahrain - Well, 1st could be possible!!!!!!!) :)
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Well, I 'clicked' on the deadline at virtually the last minute.
Take-off was on 23:00 on the 14th!!
At least all went well and now there's 16 of us continuing the marathon.
I had a closer look on the dates (my planning skills are notoriously lacking!!) and saw that some legs are quite challenging time-wise (5 days to complete).
Saying that, it is definitely an eye-opener and has helped me prepare for the class 7 birds I am now allowed to fly.
See you in Barca everyone
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Massa did a very good job in Bahrain!! But Hamilton, he's just fenomenal!
Originally posted by EHM-1703 Philip
(Australlia - Lewis Hamilton 3rd, Malaysia - Lewis Hamilton 2nd..... Bahrain - Well, 1st could be possible!!!!!!!) :)
Philip, you were wrong! ;)
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Hey guys,
Just a reminder for those who forgot..... This leg will be ending in a few days, make sure you fly to Barcelona by Sunday.
Cheers,
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And then there were 13....
Well, 13 of us reached Barca in time and let's hope this won't be an unlucky number for any of the pilots.
The good news is that the next one is a REALLY short leg and the ones to Canada aren't due for a few weeks to come.
Looking forward to Monaco!
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Well, I just delivered the hospitality suite for the Vodafone Mclaren team to LFMN. The rest of the team will follow next week as they are stopping in France for testing at the Paul Ricard Short circuit on the way over to the Côte d’Azur.
Some facts bout this years car, the Mclaren MP4-22....
It goes from Zero to 160kph and back to Zero again faster than most Hot Hatch sports cars. (EDIT take to get to 100kph!) (6.6 Seconds)
It Can decelerate from in excess of 250kph to a stop in 3.5 Seconds. (With forces on the driver in excess of 5g)
There are over 11,000 individual components that make up each car.
Can replace all four wheels and refuel over 80 liters of Mobil Unleaded petrol in less than 7 seconds. (it takes 29 people to perform this)
Will perform almost 4,000 gear changes per car during the race in the upcoming Monaco Grand Prix.
Will transfer in excess of 30 Tonnes of equipment to the Grad Prix including 3 complete race cars weighing only 600kg each!
Will complete almost 55,000 km of testing during 2007.
Will Win both the constructors and the drivers championship! :)
Good luck Lewis!
On a side note, I would just like to congratulate DC on his 5th place finish for RBR and the Honda team for getting both cars to the end of the race albeit a long way back! Now Massa has the edge over Kimi, I think this will be a very interesting season at Ferrari!
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Hi,
We got some complaints regarding the last sunday server problem.
So, we had decided to delay the end date for the last leg. It ends at 16th May to LEBL.
Regards and sorry for the inconvenience.
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I wish to thank the MT for their understanding on this issue, and will be completeing the legs within the next 24hrs. Plus i will be hoping t have time to fly the next legs well before the deadline so not to encounter this problem. Once again thanks to the MT.:>
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Be carefull with CYUL....
It was very unfair after a more then 8 hours flight LFMN-CYUL and so finish my F1 event.
When i approach appears a S3 ATC....but the problem was a bug, because the ils course sended me outside of the rwy, even so i tryied to land parallel to the rwy...and when i touched the grass..BINGO..you crash into a building....what building???? i only so green grass in front of the plane...Bye Bye Formula one event....
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oh Luis, that sounds like something you can blame yourself and Fs for, for a very long time.. :| hate when those things happens...
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It is really sad news Luis. I just landed yestrerday morning safely, with a freeware add-on scenery...perhaps that saved my career :o
Well, to be honest, that is why Decision level is there for. If you cant see the runway clearly at decision level (around 200 feet) you can still end your approach and make a go-around, or try to land at the alternate airport.
I remember some extremely foggy approaches at Africa during the Dakar, when I scanned for the runway at 100...150 feet height with gear out and flaps out. Then I made dangerous manouvers when suddenly saw it, but never landed on the sand.
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I am not to complain about this, because the responsibility is mine... and as it is usual, I feel myself sick when this happens... because I am always with the sensation that I could prevent it . It was easy to disengage the autolanding and do it by hand....
There was clear sky and i saw very early that i was landing on the grass parallel to the rwy , but after 8 flight hours, maybe i was too tired to think(dinner was on the table...ehehe) and i tryied deliberately to land on the green grass.
Now, i don't know if it is a scenery bug or someting else, because during all the flight (747-400 PMDG) with LNAV engaged i had always a 20º degrees difference between the the true heading and the FMC heading. Maybe IRC or GPS error?
See you again on ProPilot after the suspension....
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How many people are actually still involved in flying this event....
Seems alot of us have dropped out for various reasons - would be interesting to know what percentage of those who originally signed up for the event are still flying it.
Jim
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Originally posted by EHM-1500 Jim
How many people are actually still involved in flying this event....
Seems alot of us have dropped out for various reasons - would be interesting to know what percentage of those who originally signed up for the event are still flying it.
Well, if you go on the "lock flight" section on PP you can see that there are 14 reserved planes at Geneve that never took off + 2 spare planes. In Kuwait there are 2 planes parked, in Kuala (we landed there twice) there are 6 planes. In Melbourne 3, In Bahrain just 1. It means that 12 pilots are still participating at the event (they are at Nice or at Montreal).
Totally, 12 planes crashed during the event.
In conclusion, it means that we started in 49 (counting the reserved planes and the total planes crashed) and now we're 12.... :o....which means that only 24% of the pilots participating survived until today...:8
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Cheers for that Paolo....guess if i'd thought harder i could have figured out how to do that!!
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Hi all, I just finished flight E024 from Nice to Montreal with ProPilot.
I had two penalties: too fast below 10000 and not setting to 29.92 after 18000 (by the way, the range should be at least 1000). After reporting the PIREPS I noticed that it said that "your FAC was ???? and now is ????? because you got ?????.
The PIREP was posted on the main page but ProPilot shows that I am still at Nice.
What can be done to put my plane where it really is?
Appreciate your help.
Hector
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Congratulations to Lewis Hamilton :)
Guys, make sure you load up and move out soon, only one week in between legs, although it is only a short hop this time!
Cheers,
Phil
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For me, this GP end on 27 Lap - with Robert Kubica crash :[
Take care, Robert!
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I hear he has a broken leg..... That is a lucky escape, although I expect he will not return to F1 this season!
(http://www.itv-f1.com/News_Article.aspx?PO_ID=39543)
Get well soon Robert!
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Hector, i had exactly the same thing.....didn't have time to repeat the leg so out of the event. Got to hate it when you put in the time and work to fly the leg and then pro-pilot f***s up and the whole thing was a waste of time. Grrrrr
Jim ;D
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Hello Everyone and greetings from Mexico City,
I have been following this event closely and watching everyone's progress.
I have a little controversial proposal to make for everyone to discuss.
Well, let's start with the basics:
The event is BIG. 8 months long, 25 legs spanning the globe.
Then we have the participants:
39 registered
24 started
12 still in as of today (11 June)
A lot of people have dropped out for various reasons; from outright crashes to not making the occassionaly short deadlines for those flights. I, for one, have spent many a night to make the deadlines considering that I'm flying around on business most of the time.
How about giving people a second chance? Soon we'll be at the 9th venue (Stansted - Silverstone) which is the middle one of the 17 races.
How about being able to get a brand new bird and continue the event during that time?
This is much different from extending the flight times for a day or two.
And for my friends who cherish the event badge and have been (along with me) on time through all the legs; here's a solution. The badge for those who join again after Silverstone can feature a 50% number or a 1/2 somewhere in the badge. (Pretty much like the IVAO world tour badges).
I believe if we remain 'righteous' and strict we'll end up finishing it just with 3-4 people.
After all, we're 42% down the line but 50% of the pilots that DID start are no longer there. Statistics suggest that we'd be lucky to get 2-3 participants to the end safely.
Of course I haven't witnessed what happened to last year's similar event.
Feel free to comment.
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Interesting thought Sotiris.....think it could be kind of hard to get people joined in half way through although i would be keen to.
I have made my feelings about some of the propilot events known in previous threads and i dont want to open up that again but i agree that it seems daft to have an event for the whole VA which only 3 or 4 people end up finishing......
jim
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Guys,
I hope you don't think I/we are ignoring this topic intentionally. This is my 3rd attempt at replying to this thread but I have deleted the previous 2 as they have been little more than blood pressure raising rants, and that is not the picture I want to portray!
I personally have little involvement with the running of the PP events and would like to keep it that way for many reasons! This said, I feel I have to make a comment as Bruno is going to be away from his keyboard for a couple of weeks. (he currently has a very busy time in his personal life)
These events were introduced to prove "dedication" and "professionalism." They were never made to be easy. The whole concept of ProPilot was to generate a realistic and therefore "Difficult" environment for flying. If flying was easy, we would all be up in the air doing it! Exactly I hear you say.... "We want a fun and less realistic pass time. " OK, no problem, fly a tour, fly a mission in fact, fly any way you like but please don't try and stop us from providing a more challenging test for the minority who want to stretch themselves. We exist as a group of individuals who enjoy Flight Simulation not as a group of people who think alike in all aspects.
I can say, the event is well under way and I am not about to instigate a change of the goal posts now, not in any way. That would just be unfair to the 12 people left. (Even if we do get the 100% badge!) I am one of those 12 people and I for one would not be happy if I felt that I had given my all for little or no reason.
This said, we have evolved these PP events based on your comments and we always knew this one was going to be a tough one but please remember, the only reason we are running an 8 month event was because we got complaints about how short the time was between legs on previous events. We will continue to provide events as they are popular, in fact, we will have a new event for people to complain about later in the Summer that will run concurrently with the F1 event!!!!! (This is a tongue in cheek joke, not a ranting statement!) :)
I hope you understand..... Everything we do here is not about the events or PP. We have a myriad of other "None Event" or "ProPilot" related tasks taking place behind the scenes at the moment and I urge you to stay tuned for more news very soon! We have been accused in the past of only catering to a few people who enjoy PP, that is not the case. There are 50 or so of our pilots participating in the PP system currently and we are going to afford those people some of our time. We have masses of stuff in progress that will benefit those of you that don't like the events or ProPilot.
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Well,
it is sad what happened, that is why I always check the ACARS page of the Logger to see if I have the Takeoff and Landing information in it. Also I used to check it regularly to see if I still have connection with the server. Luckily, nowadays I have a strong and stable internet connection.
I think Phil said it well. A ProPilot event is like a technical sport series. It is dangerous, and challenging. Challenging, because you cannot overstress/crash the airplane in any time, which needs a good skill and many experience. Dangerous, because many technical problems can appear:
- general FS/Windows bug
- scenery bug
- internet lagging
- server connection problems
... all these are not the own of ProPilot. All these came from the fact it is a technical hobby. That is why you should be aware you have the most possible stable system before you start a PP Event.
A sudden, and unwanted crash can happen unfortunately anytime, with anyone, and PP will recognize it, because that is the task of it. And I am sure if this happened, the spent hours are not just waste of time. It was always a good experience and you have many more chances left...
Nobody said it will be easy and so anyone can make it. But it was said, that an event is a difficult one to finish (you can check previous event statistics) An event is a kind of race. A race against the technics and missfortune, and the reward for the hard work is the badge/award you can get. ;)
There will be more events...shorter ones, quicker ones, but it is never easy. But you have chance to be there and try it at the next one too ;)
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After I had to repeat the Nice-Montreal leg I am also checking the ACARS to confirm that the Take off and landing information.
Last night a funny thing happened after landing in Indiannapolis. I was taxiing at about 23 kts in RWY 23R to the terminal and then I switched to spot view. Then the plane started to shake and I the FS went blank. All of a sudden I was again on short final and had to land again!
Of course, this time I did not switch to spot view so I taxied to the terminal, shut engines down and checked the ACARS. The first landing was recorded as well as the second one. There is nothing that indicates a crash but I did not submit the PIREP although I saved the ACARS file as well as the PIREP. In fact, I have the computer on standby with the FS still active.
There is nothing in the ACARS that reflects a crash. The G force recorded is 1.
I don´t know how to handle this situation because it is a first for me. In fact, at Montreal I had the same problem when switched to spot view for pushback but there was no problem since FLogger had not started yet.
I am having some problems with my laptop eversince I upgraded Norton Security in mid May. I never had frame rate problems which I do have now plus getting an annoying screen flash from time to time. This blinking flash can last up to 30 seconds and I presume that one of these days the whole thing is going to fall apart. (End of regression)
I know that Bruno is busy on these days so I would like for Phil or someone who can give me an advice on this problem. I need to know if I need to fly the leg again so I can do it tonight when I get home.
Appreciate whatever input you can offer. Also if anybody can give some advice on my computer problems. The thing is I must use a laptop because I am most of the time out of my home due to working reasons. At least until my contract here expires next February.
I am considering to get another laptop. The one I have is a Toshiba purchased in April 2004 and I think it is time to replace it. I think my next laptop will have to have at least 2Gb of RAM memory, 2.7GHz dual core processor. What I am not sure enough is the graphics card so I would like your help in this matter.
Again, I will wait for your inputs and many thanks in advance.
Hector
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Hector,
As far as the flight goes, if you did not file the PIREP you will have to repeat it as the score for the flight will not be recorded by the system until you submit the pirep.
It would seem that you do have some sort of stability problem although to me it sounds like a scenery or afcad problem but I can not be sure. I will be flying the leg myself tonight so if you give me a few hours I will see if I have any problems on the ground at Indianapolis.
It could be Norton that is causing problems as it is considered "bloat-ware" and does eat resources that your laptop will be needing to run FS. I know it is not a lot of use to you know if you have subscribed to Norton but next time you upgrade try something like AVG instead of Norton, it is much easier on your system resources.
I'll let you know how I get on with the flight later.
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Well,
I installed a free AFCAD for KIND, but this, or the surface caused a lot of gaps in the tarmac. While I was rolling out and taxiing, the plane caused tire smoke many times, and was gently bumping on the tarmac. Fortunately no crash caused...
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Thanks Phil for your input.
Just one question on PP: if the PIREP is not submitted right after finishing the fligth then it would not be valid? I say this because it may happen that the internet conexion is lost short before landing so there is no way to submit the PIREP.
On the other hand, I would like to send the ACCARS to you so you can look at it and tell me if something is wrong. If there is nothing wrong I would like to submit it so I could not be forced to repeat the flight. Just let me know.
Regarding the Norton, unfortunately I just paid one more year but what I am going to do from now an on is just disactivating it, at least, the new features like the physing stuff. Anyhow I will check on the AVG. A last question Phil, I have seen that the new Windows Vista is not working good in laptops. Since I already make my mind up and will get a new one I saw that most of them offer the Vista software but there is the option to stick with XP. Do you know anything about this?
Again, thanks for your input.
Regards,
Hector
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Hi Robert, that is exactly what happened to me when taxiing at 23 kts in RW 23R.
Just after switching to spot view the plane started to shake, tires to smoke and then a black screen. Suddenly I was on short final and I was lucky to react fast and land with no problems. This time I taxied entirely on cockpit view.
Just a question: is it normal that the frame rate cycles between two values while in flight? Mine goes from around 16 to around 35 or 40 with short periods at very low values like 1 or 2 or 3. Before I remember that it was more a steady value and stayed around 30 (I had it set to a max of 31).
Regards,
Hector
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Hector.
Your flight will need to be flown again I'm afraid. ProPilot flights need to be recorded live and require an open internet connection for the duration of the flight, you can not store pireps and file them later when using ProPilot. One thing I will say, if you have this problem again and you are flying offline, shutdown on the runway and close the flight down then send the PIREP straight away. If a crash or penalty is not recorded by FS or the Flogger then you are fine....
Second with regards to your performance issues try this:
http://www.theorica.net/gamexp.htm
I used to use GameXP a few years ago when trying to improve the performance of my laptop and FS and it worked quite well. This allows you to configure your system and running tasks so when you launch a game it shuts down any non critical applications. Have a play with it, it is a few years since I used it so it has probably changed somewhat but I am sure the end result is the same. I saw about a 25% increase in performance.
With regards to Vista and Laptops.... Well Vista is being slammed by a lot of people just as XP was when it launched and that is because Microsoft have to build the OS to last 10 years. (5 years in productions and 5 years of support after production ceases) Old hardware does not like new operating systems and this is mainly due to the drivers. Laptops invariably use a lot of proprietary hardware that has some less than perfect drivers which will cause hiccups on Vista. This said, your laptop is a Tosh who are quite good at support and it is quite new so therefore will probably have all the necessary drivers available for download. The things Vista does not like are old graphics card, especially those with shared memory architecture and also it LOVES RAM!!!! To run FS on Vista I seriously would not look at anything less than 2gb of RAM! If you are looking for a new one, sticj to the big names (Tosh, HP, Dell etc) and as long as it is Vista certified you will be fine.
Hope this helps.
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Thanks again for your excellent input Phil.
I will do the flight again and will try your recommendations.
Best Regards,
Hector
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Hector,
Just landed at KIND with no problems reported. Sorry, I had no bouncing or excessive tire smoke!
I see both you and Sotiris are flying the leg now, I hope you both get here in one piece!
Safe Landings!
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Hey,
landed in KIND in one piece and v. happy for it!!
Awesome approach as you fly over the terminal just prior to landing. Haven't come across this before.
As for the bouncing, I followed the earlier advice and stopped and parked on the runway. Which was great as after that I switched to spot view and got the shakes too.
No crash for me either though, just the bird dancing around a bit (perhaps as it was so empty).
All well and now for the 'killers' to take us back to Europe.
To Phil: Man, what you're doing up so late? Over here it is just early evening but in the UK it must be something like 2 am. As a seasoned 'all-nighter' I feel for you mate. :)
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I just landed in KIND and did not dare to switch to spot view so I taxied all the way in cockpit view. Some shaking while on the runway but not as bad as last night.
I had to set the FS display to minimum in CYUL so I could get the frame rates about 30 but after landing they came down to 15-20. And the screen flashing continues. I am afraid that this laptop is going to quit one of these days. Hope to get the new one very soon.
Thanks to you all for your kind advice.
See you around,
Hector
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I have the chance to fly to LPAZ today as this is a holiday here in Argentina but the flight is not available yet. Does somebody have an idea when can we go ahead?
Regards,
Hector
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You're right Hector,
I planned to do the flight this evening (CET) but I too cannot lock the flight.
I double-checked at the event page and the flight SHOULD be available but it was not.
I guess someone from the MT should be able to help us out.
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Guys,
I think this may be a problem with the server time..... It is currently showing the time as 03:42 on the 18th. The flight was put in for an 05:50 start so I think the flight will be available on the system for another couple of hours. I am sorry about this. When Bruno returns I will see if we can rectify the problem.
Cheers,
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Thanks Phil, appreciate your promtp response. Still time to do it today.
Hector
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Dear All,
We have technical difficulties at KIND! I know your flights aren't showing up. We are working on it and we will open the window for the flights a bit longer for you to complete them. More news when we resolve the problem.
Thanks for your patience.
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Guys,
The F1 event flight window is now open again. We are in talks with the FIA to extend the deadline, I will keep you posted! :)
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Gents,
In case you missed it, an announcement has been made HERE (http://www.fly-euroharmony.com/forum/viewthread.php?tid=4131&page=1#pid32673) regarding the current legs of the F1 event.
My appologies for the problem.
Cheers,
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I'm sooooo lucky...I am going to New Dehli from Friday to 7th July, and I was going to miss the short leg to EGSS!!! :8
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Hi all,
I flew last night the leg from Lyon to London Stansted and after landing and reporting everything I could not export the flight to IVAO. First time ever.
Also, the PIREP showed my FL as 310 when it was 320.
Hector
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Hector the flight level issue is something that we can correct in the next flogger I hope, it is because the plane stays slightly below the cruise level you have set, I will have a chat with Bruno about it when he gets his internet connection at his new house!
As for the IVAO Pirep thing.... I have no idea mate.... Maybe the IVAO server was down or something. I will fly that leg tonight and let you know if I have any trouble reporting it to IVAO.
Cheers,
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It worked for me tonight...... Do you have your IVAO ID set in the preferences on your flight logger?
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OK Guys,
Time is ticking! Please make sure you get to EGSS by the end of today. (Leg E028 LFLL - EGSS needs to be completed)
Cheers
Edit - Paolo, Sotiris & Javier are still in Lyon, would be a shame to drop out now as you only have a short leg to do!
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Phew, thanks for that reminder, Phil! I've been busy all week making a video for my class' show and tell that i forgot about the flight :] about to go fly it now;D
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Thx Phil, of course I didn't forget about the event!! I'm flying it right now ;)
Well...first try failed, Flogger can't file it as a pro pilot flight so, I'm repeating the flight again (3rd time in less than 3hours :'( ) I hope this try will go well :%
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Hi guys!
I'm back from my house moving! Finally ... still trying to be at 100% but I am sure I will as soon as possible.
Unfortunately I quitted the event because I don't have internet at home ... so, I wish you all good luck.
I also want to tell you guys that we are working for a new event that will be deployed soon... so expect more news in the next week.
Regards,
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This is a sad news Bruno :[
Looking foward to the next event...maybe something with the Embraer 170??? ;D
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Ehm...I noticed now that my PIREP for this leg is dated 17.7.02, is this a problem for my event or not? :s
I had to change my date because I installed FS Manager and it doesn't work if you don't change it :)
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Paolo.
The Pirep should be fine, so long as your plane is at EDDK then you have no problems!
Cheers
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Thanks Phil ;)
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--- REMINDER ---
Last day to depart to Cologne for the Nuernburgring race.
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I think I am the last Sotiris.... This is my 3rd attempt at this leg due to PC problems on one and network problems on IVAO on another! oh Well, 3rd time lucky, I am about half way now! :)
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Fantastic win to Fernando at Nürburgring, and fantastic progress for those 9 candidates who are still with us in this event ;)
Have good flights, and nice landing guys ;)
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Did you see Alonso and Massa at the end of the race under the podium??? It was so much fun for Italians, becuase we understood everything live and they used kind of coarse language, and it was on the main italian TV channel, and almost 10million ppl heard them ;D
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Ok guys, I think there are still a couple of people at EDDK, I flew out tonight with the hospitality suites on board! :) (don't worry, I did not break any of the Magnums of Champagne!)
We are over Half way now and the hard core PP eventors are still moving the cargo! Make the most of the short haul stuff, we have some mega long hauls coming up soon!
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Welcome to my home country fellow ProPiloters ;D
Please prepare for the stupid zig-zaggy approaches onto the 13 runways...exclusively designed to skill novice pilots, and to let sleep the rich citizens around the Budapester "Hollywood" zone ;D
If you might try to approach from the other side, please do not throw out anything over my house ;D ... but be admired by the beautiful large Hungarian plain before you turn back onto final on 31.
The cargo area with the low-coster terminal is next to the shorter runway. But do not be afraid, you can make it easily with the beast ;)
And finally, enjoy the race ! Meteorolgists say it will not be a regular hot sunny weekend here, instead a cloudy autumn one: 20C, rain, wind ! ... you can expect a fantastic and challenging race just as last year !
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Just a reminder to those pilots that are still in Instabul.
Today is the last day to fly to Milan.
See you in Monza
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Well, it has been a busy week at the FIA and without getting in to the politics, I think it was a dark day for Formula 1 today! It is up to us guys to make sure Spa goes with a bang and the sport gets back to the main event with Racing top of the bill!!!!! We still have 5 shipments waiting at LIML and the deadline is looming! Come on guys, it's the last European race and then we get some of those great Long Hauls that we all love!!!! Lets cross the line as a team!!!!
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I just flew the flight yesterday, apparently there was a huge fuel leak in my right fuel tank 30mins after departure, had to divert :% I'll be flying it again in a few hours ;D
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Flew the connection leg to Delhi and everything went OK.
However, when I tried to subsequently lock the Delhi-Tokyo leg, no such option appeared.
This shouldn't be due to my 'travel' status as the flight originates from my latest destination.
Any help, welcome.
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Nagoya Airport was not in the database yet. Plz UPDATE again your FL database and then you will be surely able to select this flight ;)
Have good flights, we are chasing on you :P
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did anyone who flew the flight to delhi these few days get terrible haze at delhi? i had about 1.8nm visibility upon landing :]
is Nagoya airport in japan's ICAO RJNN or RJGG? i cant find RJGG in my FS :s
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Officially it is RJGG...but I found it also officially as RJNN. The name is "Chubu Centrair International Airport", and it is near Kansai, and it is a similar artificial island, as Kansai, with 1 runway.
Perhaps, we can use Kansai instead ? What do you think Bruno ???
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RJNN is the one in FS. I need some help quick here. Last chance I have to fly to Japan is tomorrow Sunday for next two weekends I will not be able to.
Help Bruno, Help!!!!
Hector
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Hector, I fear Bruno is not going to reply in time for you to complete the flight. I would personally suggest you fly to RJNN and file that but if this is still a problem we will extend the legs so you can fly it at a later date. Please do not despair, we will resolve the issue so you can make the flight.
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Thanks for the reply Phil.
I was thinking that it should not be difficult to change to RJNN in ProPilot.
I have the RJGG leg locked, I will land in the same airport but with a different name.
Now I remember sometime ago there was like a NOTAM about the change in names in several airports on that area. will try to get more info.
Anyhow, I will go today and hope the situation is solved.
Regards,
Hector
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No way to fly the leg to Nagoya. Even though I get the leg locked, when I tried to get PP started and clicked on RJGG as the destination, I got this message:
"Run-time error 3021
Either BOF of EOF is True, or the current record has been deleted.
Requested operation requieres a current record."
Did it several times and also with RJNN but to no avail.
So, as mentioned before today was my last chance to fly the leg. Hope Management can give me an extension on the tour. I would hate to be out at this stage.
Regards,
Hector
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I will see to it that the legs get extended as I am now also stuck in VIDP. We will get this solved and extend the leg by 1 week to allow pilots to make the flight.
Regards,
Phil
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OK,
I have made some change to the database. Please ensure you UNLOCK YOUR CURRENT FLIGHT from VIDP-RJGG. Lock the flight again, you should now notice it is VIDP-RJNN which is in FS. You should UPDATE your flight logger before selecting the new flight. I have extended the deadline by 1 week and also the next leg deadline has been extended by one week also. (RJNN-ZSPD)
Please let me know if you have any more problems,
Sorry and regards,
Phil
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At this time, Sep 29 at 14:41Z I am in Santiago de Chile waiting for my plane to Panama City and then Maracaibo, Venezuela expecting to land there on Sep 30 at 03:00Z so my only chance to fly from VIDP to RGNN will be Monday. However I will do my best to do it tomorrow family permit provided.:]
So I would appreciate extending my time to complete this leg.
Regards,
Hector
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Hi Hector :] ,
although I don't fiddle at all with PP or the events, I would be reassurec by Murray's posts above and surely Monday should be OK to fly the leg.
See you in Japan,
Sotiris
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I have extended this as per my post above, This leg and the next leg have both been extended by 1 week, you will have until next saturday to catch up with this leg and then one further week to perform the next leg... Be warned though, we will be back on schedule after that and you will need to complete the 3 legs from Shanghai to Brazil in the alloted time before 20-10-2007.
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Well I just arrived in Japan, better late than never and with the PMDG FMS not having RJGG in the database and FS2004 not having RJNN in the scenery it made for a fun final 20 minutes. As the FMS lined me up for an approach to a runway that quite obviously wasnt there, I decided to go Visual seeing as the conditions were ok.... So I was stick flying the beast at about 160kn at 2,000 feet for 20 miles whilst I turned on to the approach for RJGG and then bought her in visual.
I have been watching a lot of videos on You Tube lately and found this video very helpfull:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X5ObbU1YDRU
after watching the small and precise corrections to the stick in the A340, I was trying to mimick those types of movements in the sim as the xwind was trying to take me off course. Yes I know the video was from an A340 and I was flying a B744F, but it is the principle of making very small but sharp corrections to the aircraft that I was trying to mimick... Anyway, I found it so much easier this way to get the beast down with no beads of sweat on my forehead and a distinct sense of accomplishement!
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What a fantastic F1 season!!!!!
Lately F1 spent all the time thinking about the spystories etc, but now that's over and it is going to be a great GP in Brasil!!!!
We just have 5 flights remaining! We have 30 hours of flight time between us and Geneve!! ;)
Safe landings to you all!! :8
Ciao
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;D .... What a fantastic Event ;) ...
Sure to repeat next year :)
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Hey guys, it seems that the FIA website (http://www.formula1.com/races/in_detail/786/circuit_diagram.htm) says that the Brazilian Grand Prix this year is sheld at the usual Sao Paulo's Autódromo José Carlos Pace circuit lAutódromo José Carlos Pace and not at Autódromo Internacional Nelson Piquet as shown in the PP Event page, anyone knows anything about this? :s
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Hi Javier,
What does it mean ? That we need to change the landing airport ?
If so, please check out what airport is suitable for it (don't forget to check the runway length) please. We will change it accordingly.
Regs and thanks.
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just did a quick research, i dont think the destination has to be changed since both airports in Sao Paulo are unable to take the 747 and the next closest would be Rio de Janeiro :]
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Javier,
Sao Paolo Guarulhos Airport surely must take 747's 'cause I went there in one!
Furthermore runway 09L/27R has a 3'700m 12'140ft long runway which should be adequate for a 747 (I hope).
Also have a look at the Wikipedia relevant link (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/S%C3%A3o_Paulo-Guarulhos_International_Airport)
so Guarulhos must surely be OK.
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Sotiris, you're right, i guess when i looked at the wikipedia page of the airport, i mistook the runway length for something else or missed it completely :] both runways should be able to take the 747 from my landing experiences in the event and since theres not much cargo in this leg, it should be no problem landing there.
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Hi All
I have been informed by a pilot at Sao Paolo Guarulhus Airport that 09L/27R
has been closed, hence the reason for our confusion.:]
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The F1 PP Event is over for me :'(
my FS crashed to desktop with absoloutely no warning about 300nm from Dakar, i was planning to complete the last flight to brazil today but the same thing happened yesterday so i had to repeat the flight to dakar today :s I won't have time to complete the remaining 2 flights to Brazil with only 1 day left so i wish those still in it good luck in completing the flights! ;D
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:'( It's so sad you have to leave us with just 3 flights remaining!! :[
I think that all the people that made it up to London (which was Half way) should have an award :|
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Hi,
Well, it's kind'a complex Paolo ... if we open that option, later we will have to open it again.
But maybe we can think about that for the next year. Maybe on long events, we could have the 3 award types too.... Remember us again next year ;)
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I've just finished the leg, I was so nervous at the end because of my internet connetion! The FL was showing me just a white page and I pressed 4 times the "Submit Pirep to EHM" and the result is that I submitted it 4 times :o
Is it possible to remove 3 of them (lol not 4 of them) from my flights on PP? :%
Thanks, Paolo
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hi paolo! there's a PIREP Mistake Raport button at your pilot profile where you can report that you've sent the Pirep to many times, i've done that some time, i'm think that you can fill in that form and get the three other Prierps canceled... :] great work completing the F1 event!
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At this time (0455z) I am at 960nm to SBGR. Just realized that even though the LOG window of FL is active, the ACARS stopped at 0421z sending information. Checking in the EHM site I also noticed that my flight dissapeared from the FLIGHTS being made window. Please don't tell me that I lost this flight because it would mean that the F1 event is over for me! I will continue until landing hoping that the ACARS will resume sending information. I don't know what to do here. Just hope is in it for me now.
Hector
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After sending the previous message I noticed in my AVATAR that I appear ENROUTE at 34003 ft with 496 KTS. Actual time is 0503Z.
Hector
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Just for information, here are three pictures showing what is going on.
(http://img139.imageshack.us/img139/1732/fllogbm2.jpg)
This is the LOG page of FL
(http://img520.imageshack.us/my.php?image=flacarslc1.jpg)
This is the ACARS page of FL
(http://img520.imageshack.us/my.php?image=flservrj6.jpg)
This is the Servinfo window showing where I am.
Hector
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I don't know why the other pictures didn't show up. Here they are:
(http://img142.imageshack.us/img142/7672/flacarsic1.jpg)
This is the ACARS page of FL
(http://img136.imageshack.us/img136/4787/flservdn0.jpg)
This is the SERVINFO page.
It is now 0613Z and I am 370NM to Guarulhos. Getting prepared for landing.
It has been now 16 hours since I left Ryad.
Hector
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ALELUYA! For some miraculous reason, when I set Flap 1, ACARS resumed recording information. It was dead between 1:21 and 4:21. I am relieved and happy now but during the last 3 hrs of the flight I was at the verge of a nervous wreck. Still shaking.
Would be interesting finding out what could have caused this problem.
Regards,
Hector
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Hi Hector
In that situation we would all be nervous wrecks.
I would need a small wine or a bucket of beer to calm down:>
Glad all turned out ok mate.
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Ouch, that's a big problem...I'm glad too you made it Hector
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Hector, it is definitely a connection problem... Either....
1) FS is not connected to Logger via FSUIPC
2) Flight Logger is not connected to server due to internet connection issue.
3) Server is not receiving information due to connection issue (Server Side)
I regularly have this kind of problem also when flying the PMDG 747 and usually a tweak of the flaps cures the problem, just make sure you are not overspeed for the Flap setting cause if you get flap relief on the PMDG 747 it causes all sorts of problems for the flogger!
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Thanks Trevor, Paolo for your kind comments.
I agree that I should have had at least a bottle of wine specially being in one of the World Wine Tour Cities but I was so tired that went to bed in prep for the final F1 race. A pity what happened to Hamilton but for sure he will be in next year.
As mentioned, it should be interesting to find out what caused the problem with FL. I had never experienced such a problem.
Happy now that there are two legs to finish this extremely interesting event. A true Marathon.
Best Regards,
Hector
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(http://img117.imageshack.us/img117/7968/02rx7.jpg)
KIMI 2007 WORLD CHAMPION! GO FERRARI!!! ;D;D;D;D;D;D;D
It's a pity what happened to Hamilton, he deserved the driver's championship more than everyone else in F1, Ferrari will need much more extra hp to beat him again next year ;)
See you in Geneve!
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Hi Phil, thanks for the answer.
I don't know the insides of FL but my question is: how the LOG page was recording the info while the ACARS didn't? I suppose that if the comm with FSUIPC was lost, then neither the ACARS nor the LOG pages were recording information.
Like I said I had never had this problem so I didn't know what to do nor what the cause was. I noticed it when after flying for a couple of hours with no wind, it started blowing as per the small screen in the panel. When opening the ACARS window to find out how long it had been with no wind there was still showing zero. When checking the time column, it took me a while to observe that it stopped recording at 1:21.
I decided to go on because the LOG page was working but I was 99% sure that I had lost the flight based on my asumption that the LOG page feeds from the ACARS page.
But because God is a Pilot too, everything went fine eventhough my life expectation got shorter for those 3 horrifying hours:]
This is what makes flying fun!
Regards,
Hector
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I have to admit its my fault that Hamilton lost...
I made a belly landing at Luton due to gear not extending and mclarenhad troubles, I had a scenery problem, "causing me to crash into a building" at Shanghai, again mclaren had troubles. I didnt make it to Brazil and Hamilton had problems with his car....:]:]:]
yay!!! kimi won ;D;D;D and first time world champion ;D;D;D
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Well, it happened again. At 21:43 LT the ACARS stopped recording but the LOG still is doing it. This time, however, I think I get an idea why. The stopping just came after I opened my web browser. Still 2150NM to go. ETA to LSGG is 03:00 a.m LT.
Trevor landed just 30' ago. Happy for you, amigo and congratulations for finishing this exciting tour.
Hector
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Just landed at Geneve and as Phil said, at the very moment I set Flap 1, ACARS started to record again. Thanks God!
It was a very excitiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiing tour. Congrats to the Management for planning this event.
Hector
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Thanks mates,
We will start giving the awards soon.
Expect more news for the next event that will come at the end of the year!! ;D
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What a Marathon, another big thanks to the Management for the Planning of
this event.
And cogratulations Hector, i hope all your ACARS nightmares are behind you now
lol ;)
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Wow!! I just landed at Geneve! :P:P
What a great tour!
Here's the 2008 F1 Calendar, just in case... :8 :]
16 March Australia
23 March Malesia
6 April Bahrain
27 April Spain
11 May Turkey
25 May Monaco
8 June Canada
22 June France
6 July Great Britain
20 July Germany
3 August Ungary
24 August Europe (Valencia)
7 September Belgium
14 September Italy
28 September Singapore (I think Javier is quite happy about it ;) )
12 October Japan
19 October China
2 November Brasil
Ciao!
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Congrats on finishing the event, Paolo!! ;D
Originally posted by EHM-1612 Paolo
28 September Singapore (I think Javier is quite happy about it ;) )
you bet i am ;D
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Phewwww............
Finally in Geneva.
What an event. When it started, I was a 'humble' FC and now I've amassed more than 250 hrs.
There were some very tense moments, some overspeeds, some hard landings and in general many hair-raising occasions.
I'm just glad to reach the finish line....
Here's to the next event
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WOW what a f1 season and what an event. i landed my b747-f1 in geneve, and look forward to doing it all again next year. hoping to have the PMD version for then, but then how about a cargo A380??
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Sorry guys, I crapped out landing in Forteleza!!!! My screen froze and I thought my PC had crashed.... A few seconds later, there I was on the ground with that green bar saying "CRASH!!!" on the top of my screen! Oh well, it was fun all the same, at least I got to the end of the F1 season!
Well done to all those that completed this marathon. I know there were a lot of sceptics and a lot of obstacles to overcome but it just goes to show, there are always a handful of hardcore fanatics that will persevere! Congratulations!