Getting a PEN with PMDG 737NG

[EHM-1353 Mikkel]

Hey

Again I got a PEN and 110 points, for not having the Altimeter at 2992!
In the PMDG simulation, I can change the MB and set it to 1013 MB, but the InHg change with 4 at a time and I can only get it at 2990 or 2994.
So with a 1013 mB I get a PEN...

Hope you can change that. Otherwise I never get my score down .-)

EHM-1353

[EHM-0948 Bruno]

Hi EHM-1353,

Basically you have to press "B" several times, when passing to FL180.
When you press "B" you set the qnh pressure to the current altitude pressure. So, when you pass FL180, if you press "B" exactly on that time, you dont get that penalty.

[EHM-0654 Murray]

Eh? Bruno/Mikkel (do forgive me, but) don't be daft!

If we are talking about the 737 (and we are) both the pilot and FO EFIS CP has a STD button (shared with the BARO switch) that sets the altimeter to 1013mb (29.92inHg) for you! All you need to do is middle mouse click the STD control and the PMDG software will set 1013 for you, click it again and you go back to local QNH/QFE.


Picture courtesy of Boeing

Both PMDG and PM have this functionality simulated pretty well.

[EHM-0948 Bruno]

oooh ...

You're right Murray, sorry but I completely forgot that correct action.

Regards,

[EHM-1500 Jim]

true...but problem is, if you just use that std button, even if you time it right, you still get a pro-pilot penalty....if you press B as well as the std then you don't get the penalty - the std button resets the electronic display qnh to standard but not the back up mechanical guage......Jim

[EHM-0654 Murray]

Grr... bleedin' PMDG and their not quite doing things the "FS" way...

See, I don't get that problem with Project Magenta because it's STD affects the FS BARO directly (reads from and writes to), rather than some secret internal BARO...

[EHM-1539 Pierre]

Message original :  Murray Crane
Grr... bleedin' PMDG and their not quite doing things the "FS" way...

That's why their planes are realistic
Remember the FS Boeings ? Start button, throttle, some lights... yaaaay... Oh my bad, there is a gear lever too :|

[EHM-0654 Murray]

Ctrl-E, Period, Throttle, MAKE FLYING!

But PF, lest we forget, there are a good few ATP schools using PM, and it does this the "FS[UIPC] way"... I think what I'm trying to get across is the PMDG, for all the loveliness of their aircraft (I own three out of the four currently available) don't follow the de facto standards of the FS add on community, and it hurts them in the long run.

There are many SimPit builders out there who would dearly love to use the PMDG models with our pit hardware, but while the 737NG model *can* (sort of) be decoupled from the panel software, it's just not possible with the 744:QotS.

[EHM-1570 Bruce]

From reading all the various inputs on this subject, it appears that although the PMDG aircraft have the STD button which correctly sets the altimeter, the ProPilot  software seems to be using a key logger, and is looking for the B key to be pressed, if this is the case , you will get penalties if you do not press the B key. My firewall asked for a keylogger access to my PC. Hope this will prevent any further penalties,

[EHM-0654 Murray]

Bruce,

Not quite, but close enough. The PMDG software set's it's internal BARO when you click STD, and pressing B shortly thereafter sets the FS BARO (which the PMDG software seems to ignore to some degree)

[EHM-1150 Armando]

It happened to me too, when I passed FL180 I clicked the STD button on PMDG and got a penaltie; then I checked and I can confirm that the STD button does not change the altimeter value; you must do it mannualy.

The upper limit in FLogger is 18500ft; only above that altitude you get the penalty; I can change the limit a little higher if you all want, say, 19000ft.

I didn't test with LDS but it seems that the behaviour is the same.

Safe landings
Armando Chibante