Author Topic: Tropical Traders PP Event begins on the 21st! (Read 22408 times)

EHM-1465 Dominic · « **on:** December 04, 2012, 05:36:06 pm »

The Tropical Traders ProPilot Event begins in Singapore on 21st December!

It's a 6500nm jaunt in 22 legs across Southeast Asia in the wonderful DC-3 - sign up via the banner on the front page and post any questions you may have here

(A couple of legs are missing from this route map as they didn't appear in the GCMap database)

EHM-2387 Eric-Jan · « **Reply #1 on:** December 04, 2012, 07:58:48 pm »

Signed up!

Seems the GCD column in the legs table is a bit off for the less known airports; something to correct in the a/p database? (and aliasing?)
I'm sure it will be fixed before Event starts

Looking forward to proppig through the tropics!

EHM-1417 Tamas · « **Reply #2 on:** December 04, 2012, 08:54:18 pm »

Hmmm, sir!

All routes wrong distance displayed. 7,936 nm, 0 nm, etc.

Excample:
5 WADD Bali Intl WATO 274 deg 7,936 nm

And calculated the routefinder:
Computed route from BALI /NGURAH RAI (WADD, WA) to MUTIARA II (WATO, WA): 5 fixes, 281.7 nautical miles

What is problem?

EHM-2387 Eric-Jan · « **Reply #3 on:** December 04, 2012, 09:39:07 pm »

"unknown" or not-recognised ICAOs get calculated as if they were on 0 degrees longitude, 0 degrees latitude (somewhere off the West coast of Africa, on the Equator, of course). So, WSSS may be known, the distance to any unknown ICAO, from WSSS, will result in just about 8000 nm GCD.

And "unknown" means here that the airport is not yet in the (timetable) database, so there's no GPS location known (yet). Not all 35.000 ICAO codes in the world are in there, 'cause otherwise the timetable database would become too large to handle comfortably.

A little medling with that database will fix the problem, and I'm quite sure someone of the MT will do his utmost to get the database up-to-date before the Event actually starts.

(this is one of the side-effects of creating an event that visits some very small airfields, which makes this event one of my personal favourites

)

EHM-1465 Dominic · « **Reply #4 on:** December 04, 2012, 11:26:28 pm »

Basically the distances shown are auto-generated by the Event page script, not input by us, so as E-J says they are reliant on correct information being in the database.

It will be corrected once Alexander sees the issue so don't get too hung up on it please

EHM-2589 David · « **Reply #5 on:** December 05, 2012, 10:13:10 am »

Finally with the old lady, of course I signed

Thanks EHM MT

EHM-1465 Dominic · « **Reply #6 on:** December 05, 2012, 01:39:39 pm »

Thanks David and welcome on board for the trip

EHM-2758 Peter · « **Reply #7 on:** December 05, 2012, 04:27:02 pm »

Great initiative! Have to master the DC3 first though , but there's enough time to practice. For those who want to fly these legs online and together, visit the next page: http://www.doodle.com/xd4ggeug9mimxnty

Peter

EHM-1838 Andrew · « **Reply #8 on:** December 05, 2012, 05:31:49 pm »

Not sure whether I will take this on or not .I DO like the dc3 though and that livery may an old one but its very nice indeed .

WELL DONE Guys for continuing to take your own valuable time to make sure that interesting flight challenges remain for EHM pilots.

Jolly good!
Andy

EHM-2387 Eric-Jan · « **Reply #9 on:** December 06, 2012, 11:32:47 am »

Not sure when I will start the first leg, yet, Peter, because of holidays and such. But I'm sure I will

I might even buy myself the x-plane plane for this event...

EHM-1465 Dominic · « **Reply #10 on:** December 06, 2012, 11:47:49 am »

Thanks for the feedback Peter and Andy, glad you're looking forward to the Event

Anyone not too familiar with DC-3 operating techniques will find some useful material on the MAAM-SIM website - their DC-3 is a fantastic payware version for MSFS - and they are kind enough to provide lots of free downloads of operating manuals and videos that show you how pilots operate the real plane so even DC-3 buffs will find something they didn't know about here

EHM-2589 David · « **Reply #11 on:** December 06, 2012, 12:02:28 pm »

Thanks Peter for the Doodle

Quote

For those who want to fly these legs online and together, visit the next page: http://www.doodle.com/xd4ggeug9mimxnty

but only a stupid question the times are in GMT/zulu or local, thanks anyway

EHM-2387 Eric-Jan · « **Reply #12 on:** December 06, 2012, 02:42:59 pm »

It used to be so that you could select a time zone for yourself so that you can fill in in your local time. But now I don't see that selection anymore.
Could it be that Doodle selects your time zone, based on your browser reporting your location?

{EDIT} In the Doodle help file I read:

Quote

Enabling time-zone support
When scheduling an event with classic view (basic calendar):
At Wizard Step 2 (after selecting the dates and clicking "Next") you see a link "Enable time-zone support" (above time fields). Click this link to activate time-zone support.

When scheduling an event with calendar view:
At Wizard Step 2 you see a pull down with the time-zones above the calendar grid. Time-zone support is already activated. You can change the time-zone here manually. So do check if your correct time-zone is shown!

Doodle will automatically select the time zone corresponding to a participant's location (IP-Address) but allows to manually change it afterwards. With the iPhone App the time-zone support is activated automatically as well.

EHM-2589 David · « **Reply #13 on:** December 06, 2012, 03:16:40 pm »

Still the possibility to select time zone, but must have an account and free until now

EHM-1838 Andrew · « **Reply #14 on:** December 06, 2012, 05:53:58 pm »

If you are interested in the DC3 then you should visit The DC3 Hanger http://www.douglasdc3.com/index.html There are all sorts of luvvly things for you DC3 enjoyment i.e. alternative panels (equipped with updated autopilot ,radios etc ,IFR capable) if you find the default autoP a bit hard to workout.
You can get some stonking good sounds ,and even flame and smoke effects for your aircraft on startup.
The sounds are particularly memorable.
All this stuff is for the default FS9 DC3
(as far as i know)
cheers Andy

EHM-2758 Peter · « **Reply #15 on:** December 07, 2012, 09:39:49 am »

Hi David,

Times in Doodle are GMT!

Peter

EHM-1465 Dominic · « **Reply #16 on:** December 07, 2012, 02:00:40 pm »

The leg list on the Event page is now accurate with correct distances and bearings for each airport, thanks to Alexander

Also, here's the list of all the legs with alternative ICAO codes where they differ in FS9/FSX/X-Plane so that everyone can plan ahead:-

WSSS
WIKL
WI1C (WI0F in FS9)
WARJ (WIIJ in FS9)
WADD (WRRR in FS9)
WATO (WRKO in FS9 & X-P)
WAWT (WAAT in FS9 & X-P)
WAMG
WAMT
WASR
WASK
WAJW
AYMN
CPG (CGC in X-P)
AYKY
AGGC
AGGA
AGGL
NVSS
NWWM
YSNF
NZKT
NZAA

EHM-1465 Dominic · « **Reply #17 on:** December 20, 2012, 12:21:46 pm »

For anyone using X-Plane 9 to fly this Event, E-J has created an addon scenery file which adds certain of the Event airfields which are not present in X-P 9 by default.

To download this please go to the Downloads section of the Forum and look under X-Plane

(I have not added a direct link to maintain security of the Downloads area for logged in members only)

EHM-2387 Eric-Jan · « **Reply #18 on:** December 20, 2012, 06:41:18 pm »

And remember: this is a ProPilot Event!
So you need to make sure your PP location is your departure airport for each leg.

For now, this means you need to fly to WSSS, or set a deadhead to WSSS, before you can actually fly the first leg (this also goes for all consecutive legs, of course).
Just a friendly reminder

Happy flying!

EHM-2758 Peter · « **Reply #19 on:** December 21, 2012, 12:11:09 pm »

Hi David and Dirk,

Untill now you two are the only ones, that signed in for a joined online 'Tropic Trader Tour' flight. Because there's obviously no match to fly the three of us together, I suggest that Dirk and I fly the first leg on Saturday 22th december at 13.00 GMT and David and I on Thursday 27th december at 19:00 GMT. I really don't mind flying the first leg twice. Gives me a great opportunity to practice.

naturally, anyone who wants to join us on either dates is cordially welcome!

Peter

EHM-2387 Eric-Jan · « **Reply #20 on:** December 21, 2012, 03:14:42 pm »

Maybe I'll join in on the fun on Saturday; depends a bit on Christmas shopping needs

If so, then it will be a small surprise. Otherwise, I will try to join you guys on the Company Channel during some time near the end of your flight. Would be a try-out for me

[EDIT]: Saturday seems to work out well for me
I might be a little late to the party, but I'll do my best to minimise that.

And for those that missed the posting on the subject of our Company Channel, a little reminder:
http://www.fly-euroharmony.com/forum/index.php/topic,7244.msg54490.html#new

EHM-1465 Dominic · « **Reply #21 on:** December 22, 2012, 05:09:49 am »

EHM-2131 Bruce Thomas has set off first - who's going to be next to get their DC-3 off the ground?

Don't forget to share your screenshots and trip reports here on the Forum

EHM-2589 David · « **Reply #22 on:** December 22, 2012, 10:15:55 am »

Quote from: EHM-2758 Peter on December 21, 2012, 12:11:09 pm

Hi David and Dirk,

Untill now you two are the only ones, that signed in for a joined online 'Tropic Trader Tour' flight. Because there's obviously no match to fly the three of us together, I suggest that Dirk and I fly the first leg on Saturday 22th december at 13.00 GMT and David and I on Thursday 27th december at 19:00 GMT. I really don't mind flying the first leg twice. Gives me a great opportunity to practice.

naturally, anyone who wants to join us on either dates is cordially welcome!

Peter

Thanks a lot Peter to be able for Thursday, nevertheless I'll try to be ready for today at 1300 zulu an this is my flight-plan: WSSS SJ B469 NE W24 TIAMA WIKL and hope to see more "traders" today and the other legs too

EHM-2387 Eric-Jan · « **Reply #23 on:** December 22, 2012, 01:37:48 pm »

As soon as I opened up my throttles to take off, I got "disconnected by the network"; also no Mumble on my FS PC ...
I've got some things to sort out ...

EHM-2387 Eric-Jan · « **Reply #24 on:** January 09, 2013, 09:08:56 pm »

For those of you flying the Event on X-Plane 9.7: if you have already downloaded the addon scenery package from the download section of the forum, please do so again.

I have added one more airport that I had previously overlooked as being absent in XP9.7. Corrected that

Just unzip the downloaded file over the previous one.

For all other X-Plane 9.7 pilots flying this Event (still time 'till tomorrow to join the fun

): Goto the download section for X-Plane, and download the attachment to the post that announces the addon scenery. Unzip it in the "Addon Scenery" folder of X-Plane.
No need for X-Plane 10 pilots to upgrade their scenery. All airports are accounted for in that sim.

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Author Topic: Tropical Traders PP Event begins on the 21st! (Read 22408 times)