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EHM-2097 Andrei:
Hi Glenn
Manuel is right, most of the tours are VFR so as far as the timetable is concerned, these are treated differently from the scheduled flights. The "real-life story", if there is one needed, is that tours are rather something one does in his free time not part of the "full-time job" as an EHM pilot.
Thus it is not necessary to have a scheduled flight ending where the tour begins (let's say, in real-life one could travel to Donaueschingen... by train).
The division missions fall into the same category due to their exceptional characteristics, it is likely that to perform such missions the company finds another way to get you at the departure than forcing you to fly a jet all the way to that airport.
Also, note that the scheduled flights are planned with an eye to what real-life airlines do, and this depends on passenger demand rather than pilot schedules. This brings us back to Mariano's remark, how realistic would it be to fly a fully loaded 747 to Donaueschingen?
I hope this sheds some light on why the tours and scheduled flights are not interconnected.
Andrei
EHM-2288 Glenn:
Then I will not fly the tours that you don't can fly away from. It's not as real as it gets, to fly to the nearest airport, leave your airplane there, and take a car to drive to the next airport, pick up another aircraft there, and fly it on a tour.
If you see it in the real world, you can't fly a airplane from A to B, and not return it to A.
Then somebody should reschedule the tour, to always begin and start at a hub, or at least start and begin in an airport that you can fly from.
And I haven't asked for a 747 into there. But a scheduled route with a VFR aircraft, or with Beech 1900D should be possible.
And I don't think you understand the problem for us that like to have a clean schedule in EHM and Vatsim. For those who jump all around the world, it's not a problem. But I ALWAYS fly from A to B, and from B to C.
I feel like this is a sign from EHM-management, that they do not listen to their pilots, it is possible to make everyone happy, just with putting in a small aircraft on the schedule, or reschedule the tour, to start and end on another airport.
I know this was a discussion last time I did fly for EHM, and then the management said, and I quote: We will fix this in the next version of our schedule, we can't add only one and one route, it is better to add more routes at the same time.
If this continue, all my questions why EHM has gone from almost 600 active pilots to nearly 100 pilots is not a question for me more. Then I know that it's because of the lack of management, and promises that is left unanswered.
EHM-1001 Robert:
Hi Glenn !
I am thinking in the same way as you, when you say you like to continue your flights where you left your airplane. I used to fly in this style if possible.
But tours are tours, and regular timetable is regular timetable. When I was flying a tour I think about it as a set of weekend hobby flights. Of course usually you cant finish a tour within a weekend. But still, you can decide to fly a tour continously until you finish it and do not interrupt it with regular flights.
Tours are like hobby inside the hobby ;D These are relaxing short flights you can fly at any time. You could even imagine a pilot, who is flying all week at his airline, and during the weekends he takes his Cessna and flies these flights. And not to mention the tour completion is rewarded, while regular flights not. So there is alwas a challenge.
And finally, I do not think the MT do not listen to the pilots. In the past years we implemented many features and improvements that was asked by our pilots. Of course, there were some lonely ideas too that were not consider really. I hope you understand we need to think of the majority, and so far nobody was complaining about the tour system. But, most of our flights in the statistics are tour flights, so the majority is satisfied with the system.
Anyway, we welcome opinions and the forums are here for discuss these opinions. ;)
EHM-1671 Ben:
Hi Glenn,
--- Quote ---Originally posted by EHM-2288 Glenn
Then I will not fly the tours that you don't can fly away from. It's not as real as it gets, to fly to the nearest airport, leave your airplane there, and take a car to drive to the next airport, pick up another aircraft there, and fly it on a tour.
--- End quote ---
There is only one tour that does not begin and end at one of our hubs. While it is true that the Tour of Sweden neither begins nor ends at our hub at ESSA, its starting location (ESNK) and finish (ESGG) can both be reached by scheduled main division flights from/to ESSA (flights 1138 and 3341 respectively).
I would respectfully ask you to refrain from criticizing the management in such a manner. We, especially those in the higher ranks, work continuously to provide you with an innovative, flexible and free-of-charge flight simulator experience ;)
EHM-1944 Jaap:
Folks,what a enormous discussion about a minor problem.
And Glenn,can you explain to me how to fly the Peking event?
Yesterday I left a plane in Katl and today I will fly the next leg in this nice event taking off from UUWW.
So what?
And please respect the guys who work so hard for us a bit more.
Cheers,
Jaap
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