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EHM-1997 Alexander:
Jason, once you get started on x-plane, either open a thread, or follow the MSFS => X-plane threads (might be in admin forums, if so I'll move them).

There are a few of us who should be able to guide you through teething issues and point you in the direction of decent freeware (or payware, although I appreciate there's a usually a good stretch of time before making that jump).

Can't argue with the price you paid either - even with version 10 coming up, that's worth trying it out.

EHM-2381 Ted:
Hi Alex,

I am starting to get interested in what the current version of X-plane has to offer.

As you say I have a fair bit invested in FSX; however, the constant tweaking and fighting performance can be a real drag even with a fairly decent and recent system.

If you don't mind I have a few questions for you:

1-As the X-10 version is under delayed release do you think it worth the purchase now or just wait for v10?

2-Which aircraft are actually available that are compatible with the EuroHarmony fleet at the present time (preferably with good fully functional VC's)?

3-You mention you can use FS Commander (and I saw it will save X-plane plans)-can you also use the "GPS" function to fly SID/STARS under X-Plane or is it strictly limited to flight planning? This is with an eye towards VATSIM flying.

4-Is autogen and AI traffic implemented in the current version? I do like some eye candy at my airports and when flying around.

5-Will it run smooth with high settings on my PC with Q8300 Core2 Quad 2.5GHz/nVidia Ge430 1GB gfx/4Gb RAM under WINXP SP3?

Understand that I am not looking to replace FSX-more like enhance my sim experience when FSX gets annoying  ;)

Cheers

Ted

p.s. Do have have EHM repaints for xplane already?

EHM-1997 Alexander:
Apologies for the terse replies - I just lkost a message I had written


--- Quote from: EHM-2381 Ted on February 28, 2011, 04:20:55 pm ---1-As the X-10 version is under delayed release do you think it worth the purchase now or just wait for v10?

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Your call, you can get it for £17/18 at amazon: http://www.amazon.co.uk/First-Class-Simulations-X-Plane-PC/dp/B0018M2CV4/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1298912302&sr=8-1

XP-10 isn't in testing yet and will be a little wobbly when released for a little bit.

Here's a thread at the org answering this question: http://forums.x-plane.org/index.php?showtopic=47073


--- Quote from: EHM-2381 Ted on February 28, 2011, 04:20:55 pm ---2-Which aircraft are actually available that are compatible with the EuroHarmony fleet at the present time (preferably with good fully functional VC's)?

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Most freeware won't have a VC (like MSFS). Payware add-ons are where that's at. There's currently a lot of payware in the GA market (where x-plane shines), but heavies are coming. There is a payware 777, 747-200/400, 737-200 in development.

Please be aware, that while the MT have discussed flying substitute aircraft in x-plane, no formal plan has yet been drawn up - where possible, I personally prefer that we use the same aircraft, or have an aircraft officially in the fleet, so please wait on official word on that before purchasing (except the MU-2B, that plane is too good not to get).

Freeware
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* Twinpropflyer's B1900d (No VC, Excellent flight model, good 2d panel)
* XPFW 757 (Old file now, vc doesn't work in xp9) http://forums.xplanefreeware.net/index.php?automodule=downloads&showfile=50
* XPFW 767 (low-mid quality VC, not flown) http://forums.xplanefreeware.net/files/file/85-boeing-767-300er-general-electric/
* XPFW 747 http://forums.xplanefreeware.net/files/file/111-boeing-747-400-rolls-royce-engines-beta-1/
* QPac A320 (no vc - systems are co-written by Peter Hager - the king of Airbus in XP) QPAC A320-232 Full FBW
* Riviere's E-170 http://forums.x-plane.org/index.php?app=downloads&showfile=12075
* Andreas Benjamin BAE 146 http://forums.x-plane.org/index.php?app=downloads&showfile=11297 (basically same as the paywarwe with lower quality model
* EoleCreation A380 (TRENT) http://forums.x-plane.org/index.php?app=downloads&showfile=11017
* Tobs Fokker 100 http://forums.x-plane.org/index.php?app=downloads&showfile=10029
* Rivieres (modded) ATR72-500 http://forums.x-plane.org/index.php?app=downloads&showfile=8838 (Note there is a payware in production for this plane)
* riviere's adapted Bombardier Q400 http://forums.x-plane.org/index.php?app=downloads&showfile=8115
* riviere's CRJ-200 (Challenger 850) http://forums.x-plane.org/index.php?app=downloads&showfile=6196
See the download page for the DHC-6

Payware
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* Tom Kyler's MU-2B (Good VC (FSX quality), outstanding flight model) While ageing, this is probably still the #1 payware addon for x-plane. It's not in the EHM fleet yet, but you can fly it as a substitute for the PC-12 in EHB. The cockpit is being updated as well. http://www.x-aviation.com/catalog/product_info.php?cPath=21&products_id=29
* Dan Klau's Embraer ERJ 140 Regional Jet (Good VC, v.good flight model) - possible substitude for Challenger 850, is also being updated
* Peter Hager's A380 (VC in progress, excellent systems, good model) http://petersuv.vs120062.hl-users.com/index_E.html
* Peter Hager's A330 Family http://petersuv.vs120062.hl-users.com/index_E.html
* Peter Hager's A340 Family http://petersuv.vs120062.hl-users.com/index_E.html
* Sukhoi superjet 100 (ok vc - being remade new vc and external model a large improvement) - possible substitute for E-170
* Sharde Tree Micro's Pilatus PC-12/47 - v10 (Don't own) http://store01.prostores.com/servlet/x-planestore/Detail?no=246
* Michael Sgier's Pilatus PC-12 (Don't own) http://store01.prostores.com/servlet/x-planestore/Detail?no=248
* Andreas Benjamin's Avro RJ 100 (No VC, fair external model, good flight model) http://xplane.andreasbenjamin.com/
Excellent Freeware F-27 - http://forums.x-plane.org/index.php?app=downloads&showfile=11933 (not in our fleet)


--- Quote from: EHM-2381 Ted on February 28, 2011, 04:20:55 pm ---3-You mention you can use FS Commander (and I saw it will save X-plane plans)-can you also use the "GPS" function to fly SID/STARS under X-Plane or is it strictly limited to flight planning? This is with an eye towards VATSIM flying.

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I use the Autoheading button on the pop up window and it will fly the x-plane aircraft along the route as it does in MSFS in addition to showing the moving map.

You can also use VasFMC and Project Magenta plus others with x-plane.


--- Quote from: EHM-2381 Ted on February 28, 2011, 04:20:55 pm ---4-Is autogen and AI traffic implemented in the current version? I do like some eye candy at my airports and when flying around.

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Yes, but not as you expect. Autogen - buildings, trees etc are in, but no airport autogen (terminal buildings - airports are empty without a scenery). You can get sceneries for airports for free in the .org download manager and there is good payware scenery for canada (wild). There is good photoscenery (payware) available for the US and the UK.

You can add AI traffic in or have stuff show uyp on vatsim / ivao, but not like MSFS flying routes ai - at least not in v9.


--- Quote from: EHM-2381 Ted on February 28, 2011, 04:20:55 pm ---5-Will it run smooth with high settings on my PC with Q8300 Core2 Quad 2.5GHz/nVidia Ge430 1GB gfx/4Gb RAM under WINXP SP3?

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If you can run FSX, you'll get a better level of scenery with higher fps in x-plane.

x-plane's ground textures are ultra sharp without blurries. Clouds can look excellent (with rex addon), but are 2d billboard in v9 and weirdly rotate with the view.


--- Quote from: EHM-2381 Ted on February 28, 2011, 04:20:55 pm ---p.s. Do have have EHM repaints for xplane already?

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Yup

Freeware
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B1900d EHM
DHC-6 Wild
x737-800 EHM (needs to be reworked)
XPFW 747-400f EHC
E-170 EHM (needs to be redone)

Payware
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MU-2B EHB

I am currently the only person mad enough to be doing x-plane repaints, but at the moment I'm working very hard with other MT members to get the new website out prior to our 10 year anniversary - it's been a complete rewrite in almost 2 years of spare time development and should be a treat to all members and a refreshing change for the VA.

X-plane repaints will be picked up again after the new site is released and I knock out a few FSX payware repaints, whcih should bring us nicely along to x-plane 10.

EHM-2381 Ted:
With there being an ATR72, PC-12, and Twin Otter available and the £18 quid Amazon deal I may just have to give it a whirl although the thought of empty airfields with just runways present is a bit of a turn off.

Do the airfields at least have lights?

I take it flying it on VATSIM is the best way to go then?

I'll ask some more questions as I think of them.

EHM-1997 Alexander:
yes the airfields have lights. Search youtube for x-plane vids.

Airports can have buildings, you just need to download some of the freeware sceneries.

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