Post by: EHM-1465 Dominic on July 04, 2009, 01:43:41 am
To register for this exciting set of flights, please post your name, pilot ID and your choice of aircraft here or send an e-mail to dominic (at) fly-euroharmony.com. The choices are DC-3 and JU-52 to cater for FS2004 and FSX pilots ;)
You can also use this thread to post any questions or issues ahead of the Event...
Good luck pilots !
Leg list PDF: A really quick 'n' dirty leg list I made for the previous Airmail Pioneer event, updated for the new event. Courses and distances listed are GPS direct and as such make no allowance for windage. Murray
Mod: Changed the subject to more accurately cover what the thread is being used for now ;D Murray
Post by: EHM-0654 Murray on July 04, 2009, 07:58:46 am
Post by: EHM-2097 Andrei on July 05, 2009, 05:36:03 pm
I tested both this one and the Ju52, it was a tough decision (I would prefer FSX for VFR) but I think I am safer this way :)
Post by: EHM-2131 Bruce on July 05, 2009, 09:01:55 pm
Post by: C6VC on July 05, 2009, 10:56:46 pm
Post by: EHM-1465 Dominic on July 06, 2009, 01:52:11 am
@ Bruce - have you followed the instructions in the DC-3 installer? Assuming you're using the default DC-3 rather than the MAAM-SIM one, you have to take these steps:
"- - - I M P O R T A N T - - -
This package contains only texture. You must have the default aircraft installed in its original folder (...FS2004\aircraft\Douglas_DC3) for proper useage. After the installation you need to add the EuroHarmony texture to the Aircraft.cfg file, so you should add the following lines to it:
[fltsim.4]
title=Douglas DC-3 EHM
sim=Douglas_DC3
model=
panel=
sound=
texture=ehm
kb_checklists=Douglas_DC3_check
kb_reference=Douglas_DC3_ref
atc_id=PH-EBD
ui_manufacturer=EuroHarmony
ui_type=Museum
ui_variation=Douglas DC-3
description="The Douglas DC-3 revolutionized air transportation and airline service during the 1930s and 1940s. It was a luxury airliner that boasted cabin heat and running water in its on-board lavatory. With the right balance of efficiency, range, speed, and payload, the DC-3 was the first aircraft to earn a profit for its owners just by carrying passengers. The hero of early airlines, a handful of DC-3s are still at work today."
If, for any reason you already have a [flightsim.4] section in the file -maybe you installed already some more DC3 textures- then change "4" to the highest one in the file +1. This is necessary to show up the plane in the game."
If this doesn't fix it, let us know and indicate exactly how you installed it, where your FS folder is and any adaptations you already have to your default DC-3 please ;)
Post by: EHM-0654 Murray on July 06, 2009, 07:26:39 am
@ Bruce - have you followed the instructions in the DC-3 installer? Assuming you're using the default DC-3 rather than the MAAM-SIM one, you have to take these steps:
And if the texture set for the FS2004 default is anything like the MAAM set, you'll need to copy the content of the default texture to the EHM texture folder (but DO NOT over write the existing files).
Post by: EHM-1507 Manuel on July 06, 2009, 12:31:49 pm
I´d like to join, too.
Manuel Zwikirsch, EHM1507 with JU-52 for FSX.
Post by: EHM-2387 Eric-Jan on July 06, 2009, 12:53:26 pm
But sadly (and luckily at the same time :)), I'll be on holiday soon, untill at least aug 4th. By then you guys will be in Chicago already...
Maybe I'll try to catch up with you guys afterwards.
Good luck, and safe landings!
Eric-Jan
Post by: EHM-2131 Bruce on July 06, 2009, 01:36:11 pm
in the folder i have the folowing files Model.panel,sound,texture 1..2..3 CFg file Douglas-DC3air file, check file,ref file, the downloaded textuer is in a file named Douglas DC-3, the aircraft appears under the museum tab in choose an aircraft page of MS9 thanks Bruce T :)
Post by: EHM-2159 Kris on July 06, 2009, 09:43:25 pm
Krzysztof Kajda EHM-2159,
with "Tante Ju" i.e. Ju-52 (FS-2004)
Post by: EHM-2470 kivanc on July 07, 2009, 07:57:15 pm
Hi everybody,
I am kivanc, this is my 1st article at the forum, and obviously I am new.
I would like to ask about the procedure of joining to this kinds of events. Are these event take place online or could be offline?
The announced schedule must be followed at the exact dates or could be accomplished in an interval?
What are the detailed cases of failures?
I could not reach sceneries -since 'avsim' reports a reconstructrion of library-, in that case are there any way of reaching these files.
By the way I am from Turkey, Çanakkale (Dardanel). I am 33. Working as a physicist at COMU (University). I am happy to be at EuroHarmony.
Thanks
Post by: EHM-1465 Dominic on July 07, 2009, 10:31:27 pm
@ E-J - sorry about the timing for you, just that time of year I guess! Hope you can fly some legs later anyway
@ Bruce - within the folder for the DC-3 you need to have an extra texture folder called texture.ehm with the downloaded textures in it - I think this will be inside the file you call "Douglas DC-3" in your description - and as long as you have added the lines I mentioned above to the aircraft.cfg file, the plane will show up with our Museum livery on it.
@ Kris - welcome to the party ;)
@ Kivanc - welcome to the Forum and airline :)
The rules for PP Events are that they must be flown online (that is, connected to the Flight Logger which is connected to the Internet, it does not mean you have to fly IVAO or VATSIM) and you must fly each leg of the Event during the days listed. We are hoping the Avsim library will be back online by the start of the Event as they are very busy rebuilding it after a hacker attack. As for any failures that may occur, you should manage them as best you can and report them in the Thread that will run throughout the Event so that we can review any crashes or problems and decide whether any spare aircraft can be allocated - this will ONLY happen if a crash happens that is completely outside of the pilot' ability to recover ;)
Post by: EHM-2387 Eric-Jan on July 07, 2009, 11:11:54 pm
...
@ E-J - sorry about the timing for you, just that time of year I guess! Hope you can fly some legs later anyway
...
Thanks Dom!
Ah well, that's life eh? The days I thought the entire world revolved around just me are long gone ... :) :)
I remember the Croissière Noire Event so well because I enjoyed it so much. So, I was really looking forward to this next event you guys kept hinting about. It's just too bad I don't get to start it off with you guys. Once back from my holidays, I'll drop a line to see if there is a way for me to cut in half-way, or start later and catch up or so. Or get another workaround to fly this tour PP (I only fly PP for EHM)
Well, see y'all around!
E-J
I'm not in it for a badge or so, so that's of no concern. I just like to fly, and even better: as a shared experience :)
Post by: EHM-0654 Murray on July 08, 2009, 07:32:45 am
@ Kivanc - welcome to the Forum and airline :)
The rules for PP Events are that they must be flown online (that is, connected to the Flight Logger which is connected to the Internet, it does not mean you have to fly IVAO or VATSIM) and you must fly each leg of the Event during the days listed. We are hoping the Avsim library will be back online by the start of the Event as they are very busy rebuilding it after a hacker attack. As for any failures that may occur, you should manage them as best you can and report them in the Thread that will run throughout the Event so that we can review any crashes or problems and decide whether any spare aircraft can be allocated - this will ONLY happen if a crash happens that is completely outside of the pilot' ability to recover ;)
Or to put it a slightly different way:
If the plane is lost and it's definitely not your fault, you may be given a spare plane. :-\
If the plane is lost and it's your fault, you most definitely won't get a spare plane. :(
So, and given how forgiving both the planes available for this event are, if you take your time and are careful and sensible, you'll complete the event with the plane you were assigned at the start.
Post by: EHM-2470 kivanc on July 08, 2009, 08:27:40 am
I would like to sign up:
Kivanc, EHM-2470 with JU-52 (FS2004).
Similar to Bruce, I had installation problem with 'Douglas' but the problem is solved by the addition of the text; thanks Dominic.
Post by: EHM-2131 Bruce on July 09, 2009, 02:09:20 pm
Post by: EHM-0654 Murray on July 09, 2009, 03:01:42 pm
Post by: EHM-1465 Dominic on July 10, 2009, 08:00:27 pm
Both great planes for this Event anyway :}
Post by: EHM-1417 Tamas on July 12, 2009, 10:31:36 pm
(csucsok@c2.hu) :D
And! Searching aerial maps my old CD or DVD backups storage (i hope founded), or recreating aerial maps + send to homepage.
Post by: EHM-1465 Dominic on July 13, 2009, 11:56:27 pm
You're now on the 'guest list' so I'll get the keys polished and ready ;)
If you can find the maps that would be fantastic too!
Post by: EHM-1465 Dominic on July 16, 2009, 12:45:19 pm
Don't forget to sign up here before the 23rd ;) Any questions or issues can be posted here too...
EDIT: Please check out this thread (http://www.fly-euroharmony.com/forum/index.php/topic,5570.0.html) if you have any issues with engine starts in FSX with our Museum planes ;)
Post by: EHM-1212 Dorin on July 17, 2009, 07:37:27 pm
I'd like to sign up for this event with Ju-52, please!
EHM-1212
Dorin Florea
Post by: EHM-1417 Tamas on July 18, 2009, 12:18:56 am
I founded Sectional charts the old cd. Creating VFR route maps to enroute legs and sending Murray, or Dominic.
Meeting the sky. :)
Cheers Tamas
Post by: EHM-1465 Dominic on July 18, 2009, 12:19:17 pm
@ Tamas - that's fantastic, thank you very much :)
Can you send them to both of us as I go away on holiday on Monday but then Murray comes back from his summer break so one of us will be able to upload the maps for all pilots to use?
Thanks!
Post by: EHM-1001 Robert on July 18, 2009, 12:42:44 pm
Sign me up too with a Dakota, please ;) Thank you.
Post by: EHM-1465 Dominic on July 18, 2009, 12:54:29 pm
EDIT:- All of the pilots who have signed up now have their own aircraft assigned and locked to them at KJFK :)
Anyone else who wants to join in the fun needs to sign up fairly soon or they may not get through passport control in time :D
Post by: EHM-2470 kivanc on July 20, 2009, 01:03:27 pm
Hi Dominic,
From your message: 'EDIT:- All of the pilots who have signed up now have their own aircraft assigned and locked to them at KJFK '
I had applied to sign in to the event with JU-52 (FS2004). After your message I had check the lock flights that are assinged to me but could not find the aircrafts. Since this is my first event I don't know the procedure well , thus what should I do now? If my aircraft is assinged how I can reach it, or (well) etc...?
Thanks
Kivanc SEL EHM-2470
Post by: EHM-0654 Murray on July 20, 2009, 01:43:57 pm
When I look at just the Airmail 2009 JU-52's at KJFK, I can see your reserved aircraft:-
;D
Do remember, the PP fleet reviewer only shows 30 results at a time, so you may need to be more specific to see it.
Post by: EHM-2380 Martin on July 20, 2009, 02:15:16 pm
Martin Yakubov EHM-2380 DC3 (MAAM in FS2004)
Post by: EHM-2097 Andrei on July 20, 2009, 02:37:47 pm
Please note also that the aircraft are, for now, "assigned" but we won't be able to lock the flights until the very day the event starts.
So:
- You cannot see yet the flight with the "Propilot" button on the Flight Logger
- Every pilot will need to lock each flight (aka leg) at a proper time, that is within the time frame scheduled for that leg.
- To lock such a flight (in the web site as usual), the better is to select aircraft by type, which shows (roughly) all participants to the event who use the same plane.
- Now is the difference, as the assigned aircraft are coloured in green (for one's self aircraft) or orange (for other pilot aircraft). While hovering with the mouse over the list one can see whose aircraft it is.
- After you lock the flight, it appears coloured in light blue like any PP locked flight. From that moment on you can do the flight.
IMPORTANT NOTE: you may need to update the timetable in FL3 in order to see the actual event legs. It is recommended that all event participants do this in order to benefit from any last minute change.
Hope this helps
Andrei
Post by: EHM-2097 Andrei on July 20, 2009, 02:53:27 pm
Andrei
Post by: EHM-0654 Murray on July 20, 2009, 03:26:56 pm
- Both aircraft for the event are listed in the FLogger aircraft list
- The flights for the event are listed in the FLogger timetable
So this means that once the first leg is active - 2009-07-23 you can log onto the ProPilot section of the website and lock the first leg, then go into the Flight Logger, select the aircraft, select the flight, click the ProPilot button, fly the flight, success!
Post by: EHM-2470 kivanc on July 20, 2009, 05:55:26 pm
Hi,
Thanks all of you for the help and patience.
I've got the point.
Kivanc Sel EHM-2470
Post by: EHM-2097 Andrei on July 21, 2009, 06:55:25 am
... then go into the Flight Logger, select the aircraft, select the flight, click the ProPilot button
Sorry to disagree - and in public - with my boss, but that's slightly inexact: clicking the ProPilot button selects the locked flight so there's no need to select aircraft nor flight beforehand.
I agree with the "fly the flight, success!" part though :)
Andrei
Post by: EHM-0654 Murray on July 21, 2009, 08:19:11 am
Post by: EHM-1001 Robert on July 21, 2009, 07:58:23 pm
Post by: EHM-1800 Franz on July 21, 2009, 08:09:54 pm
Please sign me up
Franz - EHM 1800 with DC3
I `ve installed the DC3, I can find it in Euroharmony Class 6 Museum but without textures, any tip for me ?
And, fellows, what about if we start as much as possible together the first leg ?3
Any suggestions for date and time?
I´m longing to see you again online in the air !
Cheers
Franz
Post by: EHM-2097 Andrei on July 22, 2009, 07:07:33 am
Not sure about your texture problem, but the installer is somehow special as it does not update the aircraft.cfg file, it only contains instructions for you to do so (these are displayed during installation, next to the disclaimers, and yes, you can run the installer just to read these and then close it).
Some basic checkpoints:
- Your EHM aircraft should appear in the standard Douglas DC-3 aircraft.cfg file as a distinct [flightsim] section. Check the manufacturer and type entries to make sure it's really the EHM one!
- That section should point to the right texture (entry says "texture=ehm")
- You must have the EHM textures at the right location, namely a "EHM" subfolder in the Douglas DC-3 folder
Hope this helps
Andrei
Post by: EHM-0654 Murray on July 22, 2009, 08:09:03 am
Also check the first few posts in this thread (page 1 if you've got it paged) as there was a similar post with answers early on in the sign-in.
Post by: EHM-2097 Andrei on July 23, 2009, 11:28:47 am
Just to remind you this is the big day and flight locking for the first leg has started.
I strongly suggest you lock your flights early, so that should any problem arise, we have time to solve it without slowing down the event.
Another thing, if you prefer (like me) doing really VFR flights instead of "GPS direct", make sure you check this site (http://www.skyvector.com), which provides online maps well usable with FS.
And don't forget to pick up a few letters with you, we have to back up the "Airmail" title somehow :D
See you in Frisco!
Andrei
Post by: EHM-0654 Murray on July 24, 2009, 03:02:39 pm
Post by: EHM-1001 Robert on July 24, 2009, 05:07:05 pm
Post by: EHM-2387 Eric-Jan on August 03, 2009, 12:06:30 am
just back from my holidays, I would like to try to catch up with you guys (alongside the official tour, of cause, 'cause PP would give a problem locking the flights). As a dedicated FSXer, I was trying to get the Junkers fired up, but I a m having a bit of trouble there. Perhaps one of you can help?
The problem I am having with Tante Ju is that she won't start. I have fuel on board, and I try to follow the checklist, but after the starter engine revs the main engine to about 200 rpm, and the vacuum ("Saug") hits a reading of 4, all of it stops again. I get the same result even when I hit CTRL-E. I tried with different mixture and throttle positions on my Saitek yoke/throttle thinghy, but all with the same (lack of) result.
If I change to another type plane, start engines with CTRL-E, and change back again, she'd be running OK. She's a handfull to fly then, but that's a different topic ;)
I must be overlooking something here... Main switch, check; magneto's, check; mixture, check; throttle, check; fuel qty, check; crankthe engine a couple of times, check; hold ignition switch 'till engine starts... ?? I can only click it once, and it the reverts to the off position with the above results.
Anybody got any bright ideas?
Post by: EHM-0654 Murray on August 03, 2009, 07:24:20 am
EDIT: Better yet, Dorin asked this very question in [ this thread (http://www.fly-euroharmony.com/forum/index.php/topic,5570.msg42644.html#msg42644) ], and provides an answer for the Ju.
Post by: EHM-2387 Eric-Jan on August 03, 2009, 09:10:11 am
I did a search, but did not find it. Probably due to the late hour already ;) Pretty sure it will be solved with this fix, though.
Cheers!
Eric-Jan
Post by: EHM-2354 Thomas on August 19, 2009, 10:22:44 pm
Thomas
EHM-2354
Post by: EHM-0654 Murray on August 20, 2009, 07:52:04 am
Post by: EHM-0654 Murray on August 20, 2009, 09:48:50 am
As we're over half way in legs, here's a quick "half-time" round-up:
Of the twelve original participants (7 in the DC-3, 5 in the JU-52) there have only been 3 fallers; EHM-2493 Kevin in the JU-52, who it seems never made it out of New York (plane still at KJFK); EHM-2380 Martin in the DC-3, who at least made it to Bellafonte (KUNV); and EHM-2097 Andrei in the DC3 who got as far as Chicago (KMDW) afore a holiday put paid to his participation.
As for the rest of us, I think we're all still going (you need to be at Cheyenne by now, planning the flight to Rawlins) and I personally look forward to getting past the Rockies, the DC-3 doesn't enjoy flying at altitude :)
Post by: EHM-1001 Robert on August 20, 2009, 07:17:28 pm
BTW what are those "matrix" structure since we left Chicago ? It seems the land is divided into roughly 1 mile squares...
Post by: EHM-0654 Murray on August 20, 2009, 09:13:04 pm
Post by: EHM-1001 Robert on August 21, 2009, 08:40:55 pm
Post by: EHM-0654 Murray on August 22, 2009, 07:03:24 am
Post by: EHM-2131 Bruce on September 06, 2009, 03:28:26 pm
Post by: EHM-2470 kivanc on September 08, 2009, 08:06:48 am
I had finished the long trip from Atlantic to Pacific cost of America. I would like to thank to the Management Team and the accompanying pilots. The organization was great. It was a perfect experience to fly over USA and observe the cross continent route. Most of the time weather was fair; only about 10th AGS, around Des Moines the incoming high pressure was stressing the flight. The previously prepared flight routes was very help full. Flying with Junkers was a pleasure; sometimes I'd thought that to much is missing when flying with jets at high altitudes.
I would like to communicate more with the other pilots during the trip; maybe 'twitter' kind of medium would be great to pass instantanous messages... etc.; by this way we would have a better opportunity of knowing each other more than the names and the countries and sharing altitudes about the trip.
Establighing an event album would also be great.
'I am happy, I succeeded.'
Thanks EuroHarmony.
Post by: EHM-2387 Eric-Jan on September 08, 2009, 09:09:34 am
If you fly online with IVAO, you just type in ".chat [callsign]" (no quotes or brackets) in IvAp, and you get a chat window with that callsign. "+ [callsign] will add further pilots to the chatlist :)
Dunno about Vatsim, never been there, hehe...
Eric-Jan
Post by: EHM-1465 Dominic on September 10, 2009, 03:11:48 pm
Thanks for your kind words, we're all very pleased the Event went well and that you enjoyed yourselves ;) We'd be very pleased to see pictures of the trip from any of you in the Forum Gallery too.
A new Event is being planned as we 'speak' so watch this space !