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Archive => EuroHarmony VA => Old Forum => Ask EuroHarmony => Topic started by: EHM-1199 Philip on March 31, 2004, 05:31:39 pm
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Rico Allee - an all star flyer has PIREPed over 75 hours of flights in one week. Rico this is amazing. It is almost incredible. I do recall a rule about not leaving the computer for a period of more than fifteen minutes if flying on autopilot. If this rule is adhered to then Rico, you have spent brain frazzling hours staring at your monitor flying planes. If it is not adhered to, things get silly as when we reach SCC level and have long flights available, we could set a flight going in the morning, clear off to work and then land in the evening and get credited for all those hours flying.
Without doubting Rico, who I'm sure is an honest and dedicated pilot, when the flight logger is introduced I for one would be up for making it compulsory for high percentage of flights. Whilst not totally secure it would go someway to reducing the capacity for 'absent' flying which no doubt scares the passengers witless.
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Hi Phil, as much as I disapprove or hate 'cheating' in any kind of way, I think that is something to be left to Rico's, or any other pilot's Hub Manager.
No offense, but, are you browsing rosters and chasing suspicious reports...?
You must have a lot of spare time...;)
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I would like to say congrats to Rico, I have full beleif he obeys the rules of EHM and big up to him
P.S he's done twice my hours
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Originally posted by Dejan Ivanovic
Hi Phil, as much as I disapprove or hate 'cheating' in any kind of way, I think that is something to be left to Rico's, or any other pilot's Hub Manager.
No offense, but, are you browsing rosters and chasing suspicious reports...?
You must have a lot of spare time...;)
I have no interest in whether or not Rico is following the rules to the letter or not other than the excessive flight hours does open up the question of how strict we are with the rules. I would like to see the flight logger being compulsory.
As for browsing the rosters ... I loose hours in our website browsing. If I don't have enough time for a flight but do have a few minutes I check the forums and browse the website. But hey ... watch out Dejan 'cos if there was foul play ... I'd notice;)
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Hey guys wassup !!
Hehehe.. I knew that sooner or later this would come up.
All I can say is, I love EuroHarmony....
It was the second VA I've ever joined, and I never had any reason to even think of changing from VA...!!!
Anyways, concerning my flighthours...
I was shocked like everyone else when EH went down. And like most of you I guess, I was checking everyday when it would come back.
I have alot of free time, so I can make like 6 to 8 flights a day .!! I know , seems like alot to you guys....
Only thing I'm trying now, is to make up for my old flight hours. The one I had before EH went down, like 500 something.
The only time I use autopilot, is when climbing to cruising altitude, or when I lift my lazy ass up to get some refresments ;D
Don't get me wrong, I would probaly have reacted the same way like you guys did.
So that's why I felt obliged to offer an explanation.
I understand that it might be little discourageing for other pilots, to see how some people have a lot of free time like me and can spend hours behind their pc and log flights...while they log a merely 10 hours in a week....
So I think it'd be a good idea for me to stop flying for a while, to offer my fellow pilots some time to 'catch up' to me.
I'd like some feedback on that....
I wish you all as much fun and joy flying as I'm certainly having when I am :]
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So I think it'd be a good idea for me to stop flying for a while, to offer my fellow pilots some time to 'catch up' to me.
You don't have to stop flying for me, having fun flying is what it's all about. I also have flown a lot of hours this week
1- because I don't have a job right now
2- I don't really like flying props, so I wanted to get to the jets quite soon :-)
I won't be able to keep this rate of flights forever
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Hi Rico ...
Please ... don't stop flying on my account. I do as much flying as real life allows me and you do the same.
I would be interested to hear your opinions on whether or not the flight logger should be compulsory or not. Personally I think that as we are allowed to use time compression if needed to make longer flights in the time we have for flying that maybe a compulsory flight logger would iron out a few of the possibilities for abuse.
Congratulations on what must have been a great week of flying though.:8
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Sorry, for that last post, I got logged out for some reason .
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Originally posted by Willem de Graaf
Rico made 4 wrong flights: total of 9 hrs.
4216 with airbus 320-200
4219 with airbus 320-200
4220 with 737-800
4223 with 737-800
Read the Operations manual !!!
Why would they be wrong..??? btw. I know the operations manual by head f.y.i
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I don't see any problems either.
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If those are true, he used Class 5 aircraft on class 4 flights, which is ok according to the manual. Jets can be flown on all jetflights except Class 7
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Ok it says here in the manual
Select a EuroHarmony (or Division) plane that is compatible with your rank. It’s recommended to fly a flight with the same class plane (e.g. a Class 3 flight with a Class 3 plane). However it is allowed to:
- fly a Class 1-3 flight with any Class 1-3 plane of the same division (e.g. a Class 2 flight with a Class 3 plane)
- fly a Class 4-6 flight with any Class 4-6 plane of the same division (e.g. a Class 6 flight with a Class 4 plane)
So the question to be asked is whether he flew those planes when he was only an FC, which he probably did not.......
Oh alright i didn't realise there was that 15 minutes rule.......i'll be sure to abide by it from now on! :P and oh it meant the fifteen minutes interval must not be exceeded and not that you cannot leave the plane alone for more than fifteen minutes in overall
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Oh i've just spotted a definite cheater......504 hours on the day he appeared? his number of 1371 means that he's definitely new around here. besides if you check the roster, he's the newest pilot to go active.........
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He must have transferred hours from another VA.
Something I never do.
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It says so in the manual (i'm refering to the manual so often now :P)
Q: Will my previous flight hours at other virtual airlines be added to the roster?
A: We decided to NOT add previous flight hours because of two reasons: we have a larger and more diversified fleet than most of the other Vas and there aren’t much flight hours required to advance in rank (e.g. 4 hours for TC, 10 hours for STC, 20 hours for FC…)
And so he must have gotten his hours though the abusing of the automated PIREP system
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If he didn't fly all those hours and he didn't transfer them from another VA it must be April Fools Day.
Wouldn't it be nice to have the same rules as for real pilots as for the number of hours they have to rest between flights, etc...
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A maximum number of flight hours would be good but it would need to be average in simulation or long haul flights would be impossible as we can't switch between pilots. If you set a maximum of so many flights per day and then a further maximum of no greater than so many hours in the week then it would work. Mind, I guess it then takes away the joy of simulated flying which is that you can bypass some of life's barriers to flying. Gone is the expense, the need to travel to the airport, the need to fly all the time from your local airport and the need to follow airline imposed rules. Yep, stick without a maximum number of hours.
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Originally posted by EHM-0962
Oh i've just spotted a definite cheater......504 hours on the day he appeared? his number of 1371 means that he's definitely new around here. besides if you check the roster, he's the newest pilot to go active.........
Hhahaha...told u guys i'd prolly react the same way :]
500+ hours seems a bit to much in one week
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Originally posted by EHM-0641
Hhahaha...told u guys i'd prolly react the same way :]
500+ hours seems a bit to much in one week
Hey ... maybe he just had a lot of free time this week.;)
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hehehe...
you might be right..
But however simple math shows us that 7 times 24 hours still is 168 hours, if he he's flying 24/7..
To make it even more unbelievable, EH re-opened the 24-03.... today is 02-04 .. is 10 days....
10 times 24 is still 240 hours ;D
Regards
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Regarding 1371, his account has
been frozen, probably pending investigation
from the HUB manager.
His flight list also report many duplicate
flights (and I really mean -duplicates-)
which might point to a technical problem.
Ciao ciao!
Manu
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The chance that the problems with EHM-1371 have a technical cause is very small, however; I leave all options open.
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Hey guys
I agree with the others, Rico just keep on flying. As long as you are having fun and are getting your flight hours fair and square, then I don’t see anything wrong with it. But I do understand that some may find it discouraging to just see somebody getting to the top in no time. But I don’t believe that should hold you back. But then there will always be someone that will look at the roster and be discouraged. I joined EHM in January 2002, and back then it took a lot more hours (400) to become ATP. If I remember correctly at that time EHM0018 Thomas Paine had all ready flow over 500 hours when I joined, and as a new pilot that can be discouraging. But I remembered that it was suppose to be fun and not a competition. It took me something like 1½ year to become ATP, and too many that may seem like a long time. But I had a job and I worked a lot at that time. And flying was my way of relaxing. Basically what I’m trying to say is we all do our flying in our on pace. Some like you Rico do it in a rapid pace, because you have a lot of time on your hand. And others, like me do it in a slower pace. But what’s important for us all, remember to have fun!!
About the idea of making a maximum of flight hours, made me think about AirSource where I’m a pilot too. This is from there employee handbook, it may be some thing like this we should think about.
1.1.2.0 Maximum flight limitations
Just like there are set rules of minimum flights in a prescribed period of time, so there must be a
maximum threshold as well. We also take into account that our members may not be able to access
the website every day; Pilots may “pool” PIREPS together to a point. A total hour per day formula is
used to determine if a pilot is above the maximum flight hours per day quota. That threshold is very
similar to a real life limit of 10 flight hours per day. If a pilot has been at AirSource for 4 days and
filed a total of 60 hours, their average flight hours per day would be 15, 5 hours over the limit. Of
course built in protection on the website will prevent a pilot from filing flights until that average is
lowered by allowing more days to pass before filing again. The pilot above would need to wait at
least 2 days before filing another flight. The hour average in your logbook must always maintain 10
or less flight hours per day.
About Plymyphil’s proposal about making the flight logger mandatory, I like the idea. But it seams to me like that would require that when you fly you are connected to the Internet. That wouldn’t be a problem for me. But here may me pilot that haven’t that possibility. Until May 2003, I didn’t have an Internet connection. I reported all of my flight from my Internet connection at work. But basically I’m all for it.
Regards
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whoops wrong accusation :P didn't think it could be a technical problem. my apologies
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Originally posted by Merlin
About Plymyphil’s proposal about making the flight logger mandatory, I like the idea. But it seams to me like that would require that when you fly you are connected to the Internet.
I don't think that is the case. Certainly the previous flight logger was an offline tool that connected through to the Internet only to post the data. I sniff a wind of change in the current flight logger but I guess an offline mode would still be useful for many.
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I Agree
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sorry bout last post ... got logged out for some reason ..
I agree with Plymyphil
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my guess is there you could probably choose whether you want to do it offline or online (as in your progress is posted on the map)
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Hi guys
I think some of you may have misunderstood what I meant, in may repose to plymyphil’s proposal. I only responded to the idea of making the flight logger mandatory as a way to minimize the possibility of cheating. My only point was, the best way to archive that would be if the flight logger was connected to the Internet during the flight. That would minimize the possibility of cheating. Because the only two things your pc will be doing in this process, is running the flight sim and the flight logger program. Everything else will be done in a environment you want be able to change.
But I think just like the rest of you, that the flight logger will be able to work “off-line”, just like the one Magnus Larson made. Otherwise I see any reason to combine it with the off-line timetable. I hope that I have made it more clear what I meant in the last part of my previous posting on this subject.
Regards
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Hi,
I think the flight logger should not be mandatory, what about an EHAM-NZAA flight for example? When I have long flights I do how much as I can and then save, and then continue. For long flights it may take me X number of saves, and therefore I use the FS clock, and I know I shouldnt but evrey rule has a because. Why should you not use the FS time to log hours? B/C if you speed it up it will give you more hours. I never use the more speed thing in FS, neither do I try to cheat, because think about it, why would anyone put more hours??? We are in a hobby, we dont gt payed, we dont have any merits for more hours (especially once you are an ATP).
I think the flight logger would take away only probably one of the things that carachterizes EHM. Remember the discussion before the site went down about exams??? This takes away freedom, this is a virtual airline!
Anyway... just my two cents.
Cheers!
Alex;)
(Ive already done my first 4 flights!!! IT was quite strange to get back into the Beech 1900D:D)
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Well, I neither think the flight logger should be a mandatory. I am in the same opinion with Alex on that. Sometimes, on long flights I like the saving option, and the freedom to report my flight hours like I did the flight in one piece.
I changed from reporting FS times to PC times. The main reason was the Manual said it. The other reason was the FS watch was slower (???!!!) than PC watch. If I had to do a break I always put down how much minutes should I subtract from total time. I have many add-ons installed and many not...I think I can do the same processes by myself, like the flight logger.
The last thing is about the 15 minutes rule... which I do not understand why is that hard to keep? I usually sit down in front of the sim 15-25 minutes before startup. I have to collect info from the flight, design the flightplan, prepare the game and the navigation... and it takes about half hour sometimes. One of the reasons of PC time flight logging is that the management knows what times we sit in front of our PC. I do not care about lose this half hour preparation time at most PIREPs, and do not understand how is it possible to do within only 5 minutes before a hard class 5-7 flight.
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Another issue for the "freezing police" :P. Take a look at EHM-1377 (Ricardo Fernandes). Just looking at the flights gives you a handful. :s
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Originally posted by EHM-0641
I have alot of free time, so I can make like 6 to 8 flights a day .!! I know , seems like alot to you guys....
omigosh, I don't even have the strength to make two flight in one day :o
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Originally posted by Alex
Another issue for the "freezing police" :P. Take a look at EHM-1377 (Ricardo Fernandes). Just looking at the flights gives you a handful. :s
This kinda people make a good VA look bad ...
http://www.euroharmony.com/site/manu/pilotstats3.php?who=1377&order=flights&page=3
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it looks its normal at eurharmony to cheat
with flight hours.
but no surprise most are flying offline.
Join EuroHarmony .;D;D
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I want to say something about pilot:(EHM-1377 Ricardo Fernandes ATP LPPT 148:26 Active) He has flown 148 hours in 3 days but there are only 72 hours in three days. So i want to say to one of the administrators please investigate this case.
Greets Alexander Vervoort;)
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hmm......guess he's cheating then.........probably not discovered as they's usually a time lag before the PIREPs are validated as the management have a real life too! :P so please do not judge EuroHarmony on this! If you read our website thoroughly enough i'm sure you'll come across a section that says even though we use an automated system, all PIREPs are checked by our hub captains
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The problem with EHM-1377 has been discovered quite some while ago but till this day this account has not been frozen. Could the management please look into this?
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You probably have to send an email to see if it is a technical problem.
Hey Lim, have you flown any flights yet?
Cheers,
Alex;)
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Eh yeah that's true but even if its a technical problem it has to be corrected....plus i assume the management do read this forum right? ;)
No i've not flown any flights yet...been quite busy with a huge school project that i've been managing....its a fund raising project for the school so i've been staying off the ground for quite some while.......hope to be able to free up sometime when the flight logger comes into use to make a flight! :)
And by the way people please call me Zhen Yi....it sounds weird to be called by my surname....it's like calling maarten 'Pols' if you get what i mean :P
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Woops, sorry, since Lim was in front I thought that was your first name. :$
Another example of the different cultures in EHM, great to see diversity dont you think?:P
Cheers!
Alex;)
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Originally posted by Willem de Graaf
All the pireps off Rico are wrong, they are all missing the Fuel burnt field.
In some ways it is better to include the fuel burnt but a PIREP which doesn't have it isn't actually wrong. It is optional whether or not you fill it in.
Originally posted by Willem de Graaf
In real life you dont stop a flight and fly a later time to finish the flight, remember a virtual airline is a mirror of real life, if you cant make long flights then don’t make these flights!.
You must remember that although yes it is like a mirror of a real airline, it is also meant to be fun and enjoyable. So I don't see that saving is a problem.
Originally posted by Willem de Graaf
If euroharmony management isnt active and doing nothing , then there is something very wrong.
I can't believe you say this. Euroharmony has one of the best managements if not the best management of all virtual airlines. They dedicate so much time and are always around. The fact of how they brought back Euroharmony after 'the big crash' is evidence of this.
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I'm really torn between Willen and Tom here. We do have a very visible and worthwhile management that are actively promoting and improving the airline. After the departure of Gergely I had concerns that this might change but Maarten, Manu and others have proved this not to be the case - they work hard to make the sim experience better.
Euroharmony does actively promote further enjoyment to flying simulators than flying alone. The tours and the awards system encourage this as does this great forum. You get a feeling of belonging and a structure to your flying that does improve the experience.
However, that said, I am with Willem on not saving longer flights. I didn't think this was permissable. For a start you have to submit system times so if you have saved and continued a flight you have to lie to submit one system time. Also, with such a huge timetable and great series of tours there must be a flight to suit the time you have available. I'm all for a more rigorous check on people actually flying. We all know you can take off, click autopilot and then clear off until ten minutes before landing but why .... ?
If you fly for EHM you agree to check your flight every fifteen minutes and I see no purpose to flying a huge long flight in segments or whilst not engaged in the flying experience.
Me, I try more and more to use appropriate charts for the flight and make the whole flight a busy and fun experience. If anybody cares to explain the pleasure of autopilot in a jet for long periods of time - especially over ocean - then I'm ready to listen and even be persuaded. Until then, most of my flights will be short and over great scenery.
Sure, I'll make the occasional overnighter but only when I can sit there and enjoy the flight.
Just an opinion - feel free to shout me down.;)
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First of all, i would like to say that yes putting in the amout of fuel burnt is optional, so that doesn't make his PIREPs faulted.
Secondly, does the automated system already block PIREPs from being filed if it exceeds the daily limit?
Thirdly, i believe that flying flights in segments are allowed, provided that it is stated in the comments. Please correct me if i am wrong. Also i remember that the management were even trying to make a flight logger that would allow for the saving and continuing of flights! (or maybe the current logger can already do that.........)
And last of all, the EuroHarmony management is very active, look at all what they've done for us! Instructions to correct the dynamics of the fokker planes, replies to enquiries in the forum, how can you say that they are inactive?
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Don't get me wrong Plymyphil. Although I said I wasn't against saving, I never save flights. I totally agree with you about just leaving planes on autopilot and coming back to land them. I always stay with my plane and always fly the full flight.
However I am also aware that there are pilots who don't have as much time as I do and therefore cannot fly long flights in one go. I just felt that they should also be accomadated for - thats all
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EHM-1371, 1377, its clear that these hours are wrong some members ask questions but why happens nothing by management??
The management is aware of this, be patience.
In real life you dont stop a flight and fly a later time to finish the flight, remember a virtual airline is a mirror of real life, if you cant make long flights then don’t make these flights!.
In real life you get paid for flying for an airline. I have a fulltime job, so I have to split up long flight in 2 or 3 parts. Some of the tours and missions have long flights. I want a change at completing them too. :P
For a start you have to submit system times so if you have saved and continued a flight you have to lie to submit one system time.
True, but I write the system time down when I save and load and than calculate the system time that I would have at shuttdown as if it was one flight. You might consider this lying, but as long as the 15 min rule has been applied (and I check every 2-3 min), that time has been spent for EuroHarmony.
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Originally posted by Plymyphil
We all know you can take off, click autopilot and then clear off until ten minutes before landing but why .... ?
If you fly for EHM you agree to check your flight every fifteen minutes.......
All true... but even then if you have ATC on, and ur flying IFR, you can never know when they contact you, and is you don't answer, they cancel ur flight plan
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ah well.......but there's a way around this isn't there? just don't contact departure after you take off! :P but i'm not sure if this works with fs2004.......can someone please verify?
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Originally posted by EHM-0962
ah well.......but there's a way around this isn't there? just don't contact departure after you take off! :P but i'm not sure if this works with fs2004.......can someone please verify?
Yup, as m'colleague correctly says, you can choose not to contact DEP after handoff from TWR (just like real life in that respect, as long as you've filed VFR).
You lose out on radar flight following and the traffic reports that go along with it, but in the simulated world that isn't a big problem.
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This is my last time but
Again Rico-Allee EHM0641, Vatsim:830751.
Submit: 0n 8-04-2004
7174 7:48 hours
7175 7:38 hours
7184 10:53 hours
7185 11:06 hours total of 37:05 hours sofar nothing wrong,
All these Pireps online at VATSIM ?? NO,
He only makes 8 min. and 44 sec online as a ATC.!, that’s one of the things
Everbody can check on vatsim.
You can see the total flight from A to B including the time. And if you don’t finish
your flight, it wil not be logged, (time will always be accumulated to total online time).
He pireps these hours to get the online award ??, but this is cheating!
Remember if somebody thinks he can cheat he wil always be ON-GUARD.!
Rico complaint on the forum about he can’t get the online award.
Joe and Maarten explaind why this is, so why cheating?!
I suppose the reason we say only VATSIM or iVAO is because we want to encourage people to use those networks. If there are loads of pilots using the networks it looks good for euroharmony because it advertises to other pilots that we are a busy and dedicated VA.
We know for sure that the quality of online flight simulation is in good hands at VATSIM and IVAO. When you fly at zone.com, you are more free because you can make your own rules. So, to encourage people to fly on VATSIM/IVAO, we made this rule regarding the Online Award.
(http://home.hccnet.nl/w.de.graaf/PIC1/Ricocheat.jpg)
Happy flying, Willem.
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Originally posted by Willem de Graaf
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All these Pireps online at VATSIM ?? NO,
He only makes 8 min. and 44 sec online as a ATC.!, that’s one of the things
Everbody can check on vatsim.
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Willem,
Don't know if VATSIM is the same as IVAO in this respect but IVAO (which I know you know well) treats your online time as a pilot as distinct and separate from your time as a pilot (or as a staff member, for that matter!)
What you have shown in your screeny is Rico's ATC hours, not his pilot hours (if VATSIM registers a difference...) So, a little digging around on the EuroHarmony and IVAO websites tells me...
(http://webmail.liquidthinking.co.uk/~murray/pics/wdg.jpg)
that you have 300+hrs as a pilot, 0 hrs as an ATC (even though you're registered as an ATC student... give it a go, IvAc is a lovely bit of software...), and 0 hrs as an IVAO staff member ;D
EDIT: Well, my bad. Just done some digging around (using my own VATSIM ID to see what VATSIM will tell you about a pilot) and I discover that VATSIM does indeed keep your pilot and ATC hours separate (and boy, do you have a lot of time logged on VATSIM Willem). Seems that Rico is trying to diddle the system...
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How come Thomas Gilpin is shown as frozen?
P.S. Is the Live support thing working?
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How come Thomas Gilpin is shown as frozen?
Unless you are Thomas...
checking...
checked, no
That is something between Thomas and the management. ;)
P.S. Is the Live support thing working?
Nope.
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I'm not cheating....my internet logged off with out me noticing....
what is it with you people...
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And I already send an email to my hub manager to get the hours removed, FYI
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I fly for fun , just as you guyz do...
it's a nice hobby..
But to be criticized for every step you take :[ , that realy takes the fun outta it..
I never realy cared about people talking about me, but it gives you a bad name... before the big crash I was flying the same amount of hours and every thing else, but you never heard some one bitch about it...
but now with the re-opened EH, it's like someone can't have fun... :s
i don't know why...maybe because of my hours..? the difference..?? I don't know... maybe people don't like that I way ahead of them.. i don't know
Anyways, I uttered ny thoughts... I hope you can be a little more , hmm lets say friendly or so or whatever.....
To tell you the thruth... Due to all of this I'm seriously considering to quit flying for EH ..
well..cheers, happy flying
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hmm actually what they are just getting a thorough look at your data......and at the same time looking for answers to discrepancies.......nothing else or so i believe......quite a number of us like to analyse data and we know that :) so......please do not get offended! ;)
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Anyway found another cheater, this one should be for sure as the flights are reported with different planes and with time difference of one minute for some.......and doesnt seem to be a calculation error as the times are 23.58 or 23.59, the maximum or close to the maximum that you can milk out of one flight with our current system.......
the id is : EHM-1383 (Ricardo Sargaço)
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Ultimately, if we suspect foul play, without pointing a finger to aggresively we should be able to ask for answers. There is so much flexibility in EHM that the system can be abused but where it is obvious it should be picked up and warnings given. Frequent and repeated abuse should result in dismissal.
It seems as though we need to be careful as to how we question though, as surely folks are innocent until proven guilty.
Also, we should beware criticising just on the basis of flight hours. Further evidence is needed. When I started this thread it was with the observation that top performers for EHM in the first week had flown in excess of ten hours a day for the whole week. My own opinion is that if you are filing flights for EHM you should be flying - not clicking on autopilot and leaving the machine for hours on end as I suspect some do with the current checks.
Therefore, lower daily flight hours are more likely to be achievable and the reality. I wonder in a week that included over seventy hours of flight simming just how much of it was actually spent in front of the computer flying.
This is where I started the thread and no offence was meant by asking the question. Inflammatory language such as 'cheating' seems unecessary. Sure we want it to be fair but it does, as Rico points out, have to be fun.
Management work hard to create EHM as a web presence that enhances the experience and I guess if we take things too seriously we undo this.
I would say - don't leave Rico but accept the fact that whilst you maintain a regular high hourly rate people will occasionally ask questions. This doesn't mean you need to quit and to be honest in many VAs your current hourly rate would be impossible. Many require a booking system for flights and/or have a realistic daily max. as already discussed.
Take care and keep flying :8
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I wonder why this didnt happen before EHM crashed... I guess its because we all had a start at the same time, therefore we really saw how much each person did.
I wont make any comments about Rico's flight hours, as I dont think we have enough evidence to say anything.
Just to say that people are very different, some have more and some have less time to fly, add management positions, or other time-taking things and you have a whole variety of people with different able flight hours, respect those differences, and we'll all be ok.
For those of you who might be cheating, or any of you that are thinking of doing so, I ask that you dont, this is for fun, dont try to get above the rest, what do you achieve? If we make a consensus, and get a general feeling for not cheating, we'll all be OK.
Cheers,
Alex;)
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Originally posted by Alex
I wonder why this didnt happen before EHM crashed... I guess its because we all had a start at the same time, therefore we really saw how much each person did.
I wont make any comments about Rico's flight hours, as I dont think we have enough evidence to say anything.
Just to say that people are very different, some have more and some have less time to fly, add management positions, or other time-taking things and you have a whole variety of people with different able flight hours, respect those differences, and we'll all be ok.
For those of you who might be cheating, or any of you that are thinking of doing so, I ask that you dont, this is for fun, dont try to get above the rest, what do you achieve? If we make a consensus, and get a general feeling for not cheating, we'll all be OK.
Cheers,
Alex;)
very good said.. 100% agreed
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Originally posted by EHM-0641
I'm not cheating....my internet logged off with out me noticing....
what is it with you people...
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And I already send an email to my hub manager to get the hours removed, FYI
Rico,
In that case (and apologies for not noticing this post of yours earlier) I apologise for anything I may have "said" that may have been misconstrued as an accusation of serious wrong doing or gross misconduct. :|
Re: lost connectivity during flights, I am part of the staff beta test of the new pilot software on IVAO, and have had a few flights (only one of which was for EHM, and I was over halfway too) lose connection, thereby blowing my attempt to have nothing but online hours on the new database.
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Originally posted by Murray Crane
In that case (and apologies for not noticing this post of yours earlier) I apologise for anything I may have "said" that may have been misconstrued as an accusation of serious wrong doing or gross misconduct. :|
Don't worry man, no offense taken :)
Re: lost connectivity during flights, I am part of the staff beta test of the new pilot software on IVAO, and have had a few flights (only one of which was for EHM, and I was over halfway too) lose connection, thereby blowing my attempt to have nothing but online hours on the new database.
That sux... :s ..I know how that goes..Internet sometimes just sux
Regards,
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hmm.......so........everything's alright now? ;) lets get back to flying! ;D
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Well said! ;D
Cheers!
Alex;)
P.S. Does anyone know if Armando is out? I've waiting for my sweden tour and online award for about 5 days now and I havent heard anything from him in the forums either.:s
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Hi alex ;)
I'm allways around here, and, even if I don't post frequently, I visit the forum several times a day (it's my top visited site).
As you might know, I'm finishing the Flight Logger (I'm working on the help file) and making intensive tests before releasing it, which keeps me away from flying; besides that, I'm testing an idea of creating a small add-on for FS, a GPWS.
About your awards, I'm working on it right now. :)
Bye bye
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so what do you think the GPWS will/should do?
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Originally posted by Alex
How come Thomas Gilpin is shown as frozen?
Thanks for the concern Alex! Not to worry though, I just filled in a PIREP slightly wrong so it looked like I'd done a class 3 flight before I had enough hours. It's all sorted now though, just a misunderstanding.
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What is a GPWS? Like a GPS? :s
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GPWS is Ground Proximity Warning System.
I think it means something like a computer voice that shouts out how far from the ground you are when landing.
I may be wrong though.
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Originally posted by Joe Darby
GPWS is Ground Proximity Warning System.
I think it means something like a computer voice that shouts out how far from the ground you are when landing.
I may be wrong though.
Yes, that's what I'm working on; although there are systems much more complex than that, with vertical radar, I'm just working with voice warnings.
Bye bye
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Originally posted by Armando Chibante
Originally posted by Joe Darby
GPWS is Ground Proximity Warning System.
I think it means something like a computer voice that shouts out how far from the ground you are when landing.
I may be wrong though.
Yes, that's what I'm working on; although there are systems much more complex than that, with vertical radar, I'm just working with voice warnings.
Bye bye
How's that going??
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Okay... If you wanna investigate cheaters, look for the flight reports that are over 16 hours... with no commented fuel stops.
I think we should limit pilots to 100 hours per month. That is the max hours allowed by commercial pilots in Canada. Seems to make sense... It allows you to fly any day for any length of time until you reach your monthly max of 100..... It's still alot of flying.
I personally still do not use the flightlogger. And quite frankly, it does not really prevent cheating. If someone still wants to cheat with fligthtlogger it can be done easily. I've played around with it and discovered it is not cheatproof.
But I think I'm the wrong guy to be picky about hours. I've been simming since FS98 and have thousands of hours logged in a binder and now in FS Flight Tracker (superb program - especially since I love stats). I'm not interested in hours... More so in fuel consumption, loadfactors etc.
Anyhow... my 2 cents is up.
Keep flying. Keep having fun! Blue side up, three green and all that other fun stuff.
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:s ?
This topic is sooooooooooooooo old...
With "how's that going" I meant the GPWS project that Armando mentioned !!:>
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Neat... I wonder why it came up as a new post on my forum? 'Course I never looked at the date of the last post.
Obviously a new thread with the GPWS topic should have been started to avoid this confusion.
If you search the internet, there is a module available called Copilot (or something like it) that includes GPWS, Pushback, and a number of other handy features. Search AVSIM or Flightsim.com and you'll find it.
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Originally posted by Scott EHM-0695
........Obviously a new thread with the GPWS topic should have been started to avoid this confusion........
Yeah, should have thought of that...
Thnx for the info ;)
Cheers,
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Yeah, I use FS Copilot too and that gives the readouts. Does get a bit annoying when doing low-level helicopter flying ;)
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Yup i use it too! It's pretty annoying when you fly a heli or hug the terrain though......it keeps requesting you to pull up!