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Title: ProPilot:Discussion Space
Post by: EHM-1343 Jonathan on September 20, 2005, 04:22:05 pm
Some of you will have received an e-mail telling you about our new project, The ProPilot system. Its the most advanced system used out of all VA's and we are proud to be spearheading the project here at EuroHarmony.

Current Status: ALPHA TESTS.

Planned release and deployment, 17th October :D
Title: ProPilot:Discussion Space
Post by: EHM-1627 Chris on September 20, 2005, 05:44:11 pm
The ProPilot seems really cool, is it software that needs to be downloaded???

I can't wait.  will the Beta Testing be for the staff only, or will EHM be requiring Beta Testers (If So I'll Do It!!!)
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Post by: EHM-0654 Murray on September 20, 2005, 07:08:58 pm
There'll be a new version of the Flight Logger (v3) but otherwise it's all server-side...

And I tidied up your post just a smidge Jonathan.
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Post by: EHM-1358 Tim on September 20, 2005, 07:17:25 pm
I can't wait! ;D
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Post by: EHM-0948 Bruno on September 20, 2005, 11:11:18 pm
Hi,

Currently we are not in beta testers ... The system will pass to production after the management tests on the first 15 days of october.

We hope everything runs well because if not the release date will be delayed :( ...
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Post by: EHM-1617 Iain on September 21, 2005, 07:43:04 am
Sounds amazing. Can't wait.
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Post by: EHM-1627 Chris on September 21, 2005, 10:27:18 am
that's cool, so the pro pilot will be intergrated with the flight logger??
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Post by: EHM-0005 Maarten on September 21, 2005, 10:49:07 am
Yes, the only piece of software that you'll need is the Flight Logger.
Title: ProPilot:Discussion Space
Post by: EHM-0948 Bruno on September 21, 2005, 02:24:56 pm
The new Flight Logger will have an option for ProPilot.

It will also include more features that will improve the communication between server and client (your flight simulator).

This new version will be version 3.

I also wanna say that ProPilot will be open for everyone. We will have much more things to learn to fly better, and to communicate eachother.

We also want it to be a new motivation step for you to fly online. We want more EHM pilots to fly online, and we are thinking of giving an extra bonus on the flight score if you make the flight online.

Currently we are developing the penalties and failures system, and the new flight logger. We will end it by next week.
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Post by: EHM-0962 Zhen Yi on September 28, 2005, 02:20:43 pm
sounds great! can't wait ;D
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Post by: EHM-1532 Søren on September 28, 2005, 07:06:16 pm
I have one question.
What version of FS will PRO-PILOT be compatible with?

RGDS

Søren
EHM1532
EKAE
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Post by: EHM-1001 Robert on September 28, 2005, 08:04:33 pm
ProPilot in reality consists of Flight Logger, some scripts and a huge database on the EuroHarmony server. So, it is simulator version indipendent. It uses FSUIPC module to grab information from the game.  ;)
Title: ProPilot:Discussion Space
Post by: EHM-0948 Bruno on September 28, 2005, 08:31:21 pm
Hi,

Next friday the MT team will test Flight Logger 3.0 on the Fly In.
We will also start the beta tests officialy.

Let's hope everything rans fine. ;D

Regards,
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Post by: EHM-0948 Bruno on September 29, 2005, 06:46:34 pm
Take a look ;)

http://vaflash.com/content/view/153/2/
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Post by: EHM-0962 Zhen Yi on October 01, 2005, 02:06:45 pm
nice to see some publicity being given :)
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Post by: EHM-1627 Chris on October 10, 2005, 10:21:29 am
Quote
Originally posted by Razza
Some of you will have received an e-mail telling you about our new project, The ProPilot system. Its the most advanced system used out of all VA's and we are proud to be spearheading the project here at EuroHarmony.

Current Status: ALPHA TESTS.

Planned release and deployment, 17th October :D



So Razza is the 17th Oct still a realistic date, or has the website host being a ****** put the date back
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Post by: EHM-0654 Murray on October 10, 2005, 12:52:56 pm
No Chris, we're still shooting for October 17th.

The website problems haven't actually put that big a dent in the plans (only in terms of the ancillery information on the PP pages...)
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Post by: EHM-0962 Zhen Yi on October 10, 2005, 01:12:15 pm
nice to hear that....7 more days!!! ;D
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Post by: EHM-1627 Chris on October 10, 2005, 08:22:13 pm
yay...and counting!!!
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Post by: EHM-1703 Philip on October 10, 2005, 09:44:56 pm
I'm looking forward to it, although I have been having ISP probs of my own, at least they were good enough to give me a month free and inform me before hand that I was going to experience problems. Hopefully they will have the exchange sorted out by the weekend so all should be good for the ProPilot Launch.

Phil
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Post by: EHM-0948 Bruno on October 11, 2005, 12:33:20 am
Hi,

There are some things that I would like to say to you.

Basically, before using it, READ the manual. It will be available on the suggested downloads page. We don't know if we will have time to finish it, but we are trying to. Although the major topics are already there.

Another thing is that ProPilot only works on Internet Explorer for now. it have some DHTML that is not compatible with Mozzila engine.
But, we will try to solve it as soon as possible, although it will not be corrected on 17th.

We will also post this 2 things again when we make the announcement next weekend.

Regards,
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Post by: EHM-0962 Zhen Yi on October 11, 2005, 01:36:49 am
ok will definitely read the manual since there's one :)

hmm....IE huh....still it's worth sacrificing a bit of security for ProPilot :]
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Post by: EHM-1627 Chris on October 11, 2005, 09:30:11 am
will it work if you have a yucky AOL browser...or only in IE???

Firefox Rules...shame we can't use for now...ahh well it should come.

Only 6 More Days Till Pro Pilot
Title: ProPilot:Discussion Space
Post by: EHM-0948 Bruno on October 11, 2005, 10:09:31 am
Hi Chris,

Yes, definately ProPilot will work on Firefox on a near future.
But, due to some stress on this final time, we don't have time to prepare it.

Regards,
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Post by: EHM-1737 Brian on October 12, 2005, 11:02:01 pm
ive been watching your notices about this VA and I am very excited about this propilot addon,

i noticed it says that if you crash an airplane that airplane will not be available to use anymore

if i may make a sugestion, it would be nice to have the schedules automatically update not to have that airport available to land or takeoff until say 4-8 hours after, to simulate investigating, etc - if of course the crashed occured at an airport

i will probably join once this propilot is out, i want to start when that is available
thanks
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Post by: EHM-0948 Bruno on October 12, 2005, 11:21:54 pm
Hi Brian,

Well, normally this type of crash can occur in different scenarios ... Can occur climbing, taking off, cruising, landing, etc ... So, the destination or departure airport can or can't be resposible.

We will leave it this way. Only the airplane will be dismissed, so, let's hope all of us don't crash too many of them ;D
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Post by: EHM-0962 Zhen Yi on October 13, 2005, 06:54:20 am
just thought up an idea, it was mentioned in the email that maintenance needs to be carried out on the planes once in a while. how about allowing maintenance flights to be flown by pilots from any airport straight to a hub (eg the flight may not have to be in the timetable) when a certain amount of operating miles have been reached? and then maybe an award can be set aside for pilots who regularly do maintenance flights etc

Edit : and oh if possible please report crashes of planes and buying of new planes in the news :] :P
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Post by: EHM-0948 Bruno on October 13, 2005, 08:28:07 am
The first part has some logic although it means that for that plane to be available again is conditioned by if thew pilot make that fligtht or not.

The extreme case, imagine that we have only one LSZH 747, and that he is in need to go to maintenance and no one place it on LSZH. So, no one would fly it because the airplane doesnt go to maintenace.

Airplanes go to maintenance in a automatic or manual way. Automatic the the pilot makes some penalties that could bring tha airplane so damaged that it go automatically to maintence. Manually if the Fleet Manager sees that that airplane has made so much hours that his reability factor is so low and that that airplane can have failures on flight.

About report crashes on the news it is already done. There are a news section on PP (independent from the main page new ones) that will tell you that :)
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Post by: EHM-0962 Zhen Yi on October 13, 2005, 08:51:23 am
what i meant was that the plane would be scheduled for maintenance but could still fly (as requiring maintenance does not necessarily mean that it's spoiled, though with heightened likelyhood of failures occuring, if that is possible to implement) so that doesnt seem to be a likely problem
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Post by: EHM-1737 Brian on October 13, 2005, 03:12:19 pm
wow, this keeps getting better all the time
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Post by: EHM-0962 Zhen Yi on October 13, 2005, 04:08:16 pm
um...that was a suggestion, it has not been implemented/decided upon yet :$
Title: ProPilot:Discussion Space
Post by: EHM-1358 Tim on October 13, 2005, 05:47:29 pm
Were do we start at? Are hub?
Title: ProPilot:Discussion Space
Post by: EHM-0948 Bruno on October 13, 2005, 05:57:15 pm
Hi,

Every pilot will start at his source hub. The one that you belong.
At the first 24 hours, all of us have an attribute called "Travelling mode" on. It means that a pilot can only make flights starting from the last destination point. This travelling mode is turned off after 24h, and it is turned on again everytime you make a flight.

This is made just to avoid that a pilot makes a flight from LFPG to EGLL, and after that, on the same day, makes another one from LPPT to LPPR. You have to "travel" to LPPT in 24 hours. That's the meaning of it.
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Post by: EHM-1366 Themis on October 13, 2005, 09:12:18 pm
Will there be any info about money earned from each flight?
eg. # of passengers carried minus fuel and maintanance costs etc...

That way we can implement the data and find each month which hub has been the most efficient, it would add more fun! :8
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Post by: EHM-0948 Bruno on October 13, 2005, 11:45:15 pm
Hi Themis,

For now we don't have that feature implemented. Maybe on another version because that type of strategy needs to be deeply thinked (as we always do).

Regards,
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Post by: EHM-1627 Chris on October 14, 2005, 11:01:53 am
just a quick question refering to a post by someone, can the planes actually malfunction during a flight???
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Post by: EHM-0948 Bruno on October 14, 2005, 02:39:41 pm
Hi Chris,

Yes.
Failures on airplanes are based on a complex algortihm given factors like total miles flown, total passengers, days since last maintenance, etc ...

If an airplane has a failure, it can be a random failure. Electrical, Hydraulical, Engine, besides others.

Even if you have your failures turned off on fs2004/fs2002, we turn them on. The same applies to crash detection on airplanes and building, and crash due to overstress.

So, every flight is unique. You don't know what will happen. BUT, don't start thinking that everytime you fly you'll have a failure. No. Failures have a very very minimum probability to happen, even more than right now all of our airplanes are new so the reability coeficients are as higher as possible.

Regards,
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Post by: EHM-1735 Dave on October 14, 2005, 03:17:34 pm
Hi, will there be flights assignments?
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Post by: EHM-1343 Jonathan on October 14, 2005, 03:43:25 pm
that might be hard, but you can see where you favourite plane is, and available flights.

You will have a limited number of flights available;D
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Post by: EHM-1735 Dave on October 14, 2005, 04:10:44 pm
Thanks for the reply Razza,

The reason I ask is that I cannot seem to get the AFAS system to work!!
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Post by: EHM-1737 Brian on October 14, 2005, 04:36:09 pm
you're not the only one, i cant either
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Post by: EHM-0962 Zhen Yi on October 14, 2005, 04:51:02 pm
the system works fine for me. did you insert the correct email address? the flights come in the form of an email so make sure that your filters allow euroharmony traffic through
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Post by: EHM-1627 Chris on October 14, 2005, 05:00:12 pm
thanks bruno...this all sounds very sophicsticated...and complex...but sounds really nice to start with...although not looking forward to getting faliors ;P
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Post by: EHM-1735 Dave on October 14, 2005, 07:25:05 pm
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Originally posted by EHM-0962
the system works fine for me. did you insert the correct email address? the flights come in the form of an email so make sure that your filters allow euroharmony traffic through


I don't even get that far, when I try to set the parameters I get the message "error on page" in the bottom left hand corner
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Post by: EHM-1737 Brian on October 14, 2005, 10:00:00 pm
yep me too
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Post by: EHM-0948 Bruno on October 14, 2005, 10:11:12 pm
Dave, can you please send me an email with the snapshot of it ?

Thank you.

Let's get back on topic here ;D
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Post by: EHM-1617 Iain on October 15, 2005, 08:46:22 am
2 more days to go... Are we still on for the 17th?
Title: ProPilot:Discussion Space
Post by: EHM-1343 Jonathan on October 15, 2005, 10:34:12 am
Yup, should be great fun :D
I fear there will be great demmand to fly for example, class 4/5 planes, remember, its first come first served when you want to lock a flight;D
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Post by: EHM-1735 Dave on October 15, 2005, 08:14:39 pm
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Originally posted by bfalcao
Dave, can you please send me an email with the snapshot of it ?

Thank you.

Let's get back on topic here ;D


On it's way, sorry for hijacking the thread :-((
Title: ProPilot:Discussion Space
Post by: EHM-0948 Bruno on October 16, 2005, 12:37:45 am
No problem ;) ...