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Archive => Other Topics => Old Forum => Crewroom => Topic started by: EHM-1201 Scott on April 27, 2004, 01:05:24 am
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Boeing had its first order from ANA for 50 7E7's this week! I like the new 7E7's and think it will bring Boeing back on top again! I can't wait to see one in real life. Deliveries are suppose to start in 2008.
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I always found it weird for an airline to order aircraft that doesn't even exist yet. This is after all a billion dollar purchase, and NO refunds :P
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I don't think Boeing is going to make it on top
again. Airbus is coming out with the A380 in
2006 and already has quite a few orders.
Ciao ciao!
EuroManu
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The A380 isn't really a competitor to the 7E7, but if I have to believe Airbus the A330 series comes close. I don't buy that, though. The A330 is much older and no matter how much I love that plane, it just won't be as advanced as the 7E7.. now this is the part where the names A350 and A360 can come in handy :]
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I didn't mean to put the B7E7 and the
A380 on the same level. They clearly are
completely different planes. But in terms
of prestige and sales I bet on Airbus.
Ciao ciao!
Manu
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Do you guys think Boeing is going to make the deadline? How many years did it take for B777 to get from the design phase to first delivery? And how much time will it still take for A380 to be delivered?
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Well I know that the A380 has most of its parts like wings and fusealarge (sorry if spelt wrong). There now shipping them to be put together.
There could, not saying they will, have a test flight right at the end of this year or before the new FS come out.
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If I remember correctly, the A380 should first
fly sometime in 2006, while the first orders
should be delivered sometime in 2007.
Ciao ciao!
Manu
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as i remember the first flight should be around the middle of 2005 with the first deliveries somewhere in 2006
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If I'm not mistaking, Lufthansa is already building new hangars in Frankfurt for the A380...
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Quite a number of International Airports are also currently undergoing modifications (widening of taxiways, adding of more aerobridges etc) to allow the A380 to operate from the airport
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Oh thats good, I hope Manchester (EGCC) does some mods to the airport. So I could see one.
Is it true that each wing is 45m long?
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The wingspan of the A380 is around 80m so each wing should be around 40m long.....or are you talking about the slant length?
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No, just what each wing length was.
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From the Aurbus site:
The first A380 wing, a starboard wing for static tests, left Airbus’ factory in Broughton, North Wales on 5 April 2004 on the first leg of its journey to France. Hundreds of Airbus employees watched as the huge wing, measuring over 45 metres along its leading edge, was driven out of the dispatch area and off on the start of its journey to Toulouse.
And at another part of the site:
After being removed from its jig, the first A380 wing, a port wing for MSN001, the first flight test aircraft, was manoeuvred through 90 degrees to be laid in a horizontal position for the first time.
At this stage, this wing weighs around 30 tonnes - including flight test instrumentation. It measures over 36 metres along its leading edge, is 11 metres wide and nearly three metres deep at the root-end (where it attaches to the fuselage).
Seems like they don't know it themselves :o
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So do you think it would be so big it would block out the sun?;D
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For me the 747-400 will allways be THE ONE
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A380-800 Wing span 79.8m (261ft 10in), length 73m (239ft 6in). Height 24,1 m (79ft 1in).
B747-400 Wing span 64.44m (211ft 5in), length 70.67m (231ft 10in), height 19.41m (63ft 8in).
B7E7 Wing span 59m (193ft), length 56m (182ft)
Cool ;D
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Well you know your stuff. :]
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as i remember the first flight should be around the middle of 2005 with the first deliveries somewhere in 2006
You are probably right Lim, I remember the
1 year distance, but I wasn't sure about the
first flight. Good news. Less to wait.
Ciao ciao!
Manu
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Just in time for the 2008 Beijing olympics too when a lot of the planes are in service
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Originally posted by EHM-0641
For me the 747-400 will allways be THE ONE
http://www.euroharmony.com/~forum/viewthread.php?tid=174 ;D
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I think the wing is really half the distance of the wingspan when it is off the plane. But after assembly, some areas are hidden in the fuselage, so probably the visible part is only 36 metres out of the total 45. Maybe ... :%
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Originally posted by Gizmo2k4
Originally posted by EHM-0641
For me the 747-400 will allways be THE ONE
[url]http://www.euroharmony.com/~forum/viewthread.php?tid=174[/url] ;D
Saw them !!! magnifecent pics... {envies you just a LITTLE BIT} ;D
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.. Good point Robert
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if that's true it's a little surprising........9m of each wing hidden in the plane body (fuselage?).......
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But after assembly, some areas are hidden in the fuselage, so probably the visible part is only 36 metres out of the total 45.
What aircraft are we talking about? 45m isn't the wingspan of any aircraft mentioned in this thread...
But if you are reffering to the A380, the wings do not connect to each other in the middle of the fuselage, they are attached to the sides of it...
I don't recall the three wing configuration (the two sections of wing being connected in the middle - thus the third wing being the portion hidden inside the fuselage) being used on any modern or classic aircraft, except maybe some World War II fighters and many GA aircraft (mostly high-mounted wing).
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Originally posted by EHM-0962
if that's true it's a little surprising........9m of each wing hidden in the plane body (fuselage?).......
d**n .. that means we'd be having an 27 feet wide cabin ..?? :o
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It should be at the bottom of the fuselage so it shouldnt affect the width of the cabin
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Large 7E7 assemblies will be transported to the final assembly site on board modified 747-400s. This transport plan will result in saving of 20 to 40 percent over traditional shipping methods and reduce the amount of time it takes the large parts to arrive at the final assembly site from as many as 30 days to only one day. Boeing estimates the savings of using air transport instead of shipping will be recouped within the first few years of production of the 7E7.
(http://www.boeing.com/commercial/7e7/images/747in-flt.jpg)
Source: Boeing Website
Now that is pretty huge, don't you think?
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I dont know what it is, but dont Big large American companys always seem to copy ideas. To me that looks somehow like a A380:]
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It is different from the A380 in almost all aspects... This is the modification of an existing airframe, mainly for transporting pieces of fuselage for the 7E7. And the way I see it, it will have an opening tail... like the Conroy CL-44-O Guppy (http://www.airliners.net/search/photo.search?aircraft_genericsearch=Conroy%20CL-44-O%20Guppy&distinct_entry=true)
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Oh yeah, and the first aircraft that was converted into a "Guppy" was the Boeing 377, back in 1965... The Canadair CL-44 followed in 1969, and the A300-600ST first flew in 1994...
I'm not a Boeing freak, I'm more of a Boeing fan, but these are the facts ;D
Oh, and the A380 idea isn't so original either, the first operational (I think) double-decker was the Breguet 763 Deux Ponts, and in the early 1990's, McDonnel Douglas started work on the MD-12 double-decker, wich was due to fly in 1997.
(http://www.wagerusa.com/media/transportation/md12.jpg)
Looks familiar? ;D
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Ha! Amazing! Nice one, well researched!
Cheers
Rich
;D
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Originally posted by blood13
([url]http://www.boeing.com/commercial/7e7/images/747in-flt.jpg[/url])
What an ugly thing...jesus ! :o
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Well, how about it 747 fans? what do you guys think?
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Call me crazy, but I like those planes that seem too big and bulky to get airborne.
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Oh, it's gonna fly...
Boeing Conducts Wind Tunnel Tests on Modified 747s
October 13, 2003
The first round of wind tunnel testing on a modified 747-400 show the proposed design is an effective solution for transporting large assemblies to the 7E7 final assembly site. Testing at the University of Washington wind tunnel verified the performance characteristics of the airplane in flight.
(http://www.boeing.com/news/releases/2003/photorelease/q4/031013g1.jpg)
Source: Boeing Website
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i almost didnt recognise it as a heavily modified 747 :o and look at that newspaper clipping.......i dont think that plane in the picture can carry 600 people........and triple deck airplanes as suggested? :o
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That modded 747 has gone fat. I wont get on to the next thing...:D
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im a fan of every company and ma favourite planes are 2 decks one such as a38 and im wating for more :):)
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i just cant upload any pictures
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(http://img296.echo.cx/img296/9216/soniccruiserpic023um.jpg)
i like the wings on top of the pilot cabin
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This one is more like a stratospheric or spatial project ;)
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woah where did you get that pic from?
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http://www.boeing.com/news/feature/concept/flash.html
Boeing Sonic Cruiser project.
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Its disgusting IMO, but, it' ur lopinion, do also like the idea of the wings higher and forward of the fuselage, i think they get called canard foreplanes??
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Right, canard (means duck in french) is most of the time used when additionnal lift and pitch control is needed at lower speeds (see the naval versions of some planes, and planes made to be very manoeuverable at low speeds).
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Hehe, in Hungary it is called simply duck-wing ;D
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i recon this plane would be better than 7e7 if any air company decides to make it. what dou you think? eh
(http://img296.echo.cx/img296/3562/plane013ju.jpg)
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my opinion i think sonic cruiser has the best look in all boeings and other. just lokk at dat bro
(http://img300.echo.cx/img300/7230/soniccruiserpic018ec.jpg)
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boeing is now designing many planes at once like 787,797,7e7,7e part transporter and sonic cruiser how weird? first the sonic cruiser
(http://img300.echo.cx/img300/7230/soniccruiserpic018ec.jpg)
the boeing 787
http://img214.echo.cx/img214/7179/b7870vi.jpg
the 797 no picture
and the 7e7 transporter
(http://img291.echo.cx/img291/7113/747inflt4sh.jpg)
and finally sonic cruiser
(http://img291.echo.cx/img291/9394/picoctsonicd79od.jpg)
also the concept
(http://img236.echo.cx/img236/3376/fr0101e30rp.jpg)
(http://img214.echo.cx/my.php?image=b7870vi.jpg)
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also airbus with a 380,a3xx,asx600,a2000 and p2
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mcdonell douglas is not in the picture anymore coz no more ideas or something
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how good
(http://img214.echo.cx/img214/7179/b7870vi.jpg)
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the plane above is surpose to be on my top post for boeing 787 sorry coz it couldn't upload
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Mate, instead of posting all of them in seperate posts, post them in a big one, although it's meant in good spirit;D, it could be classed as spamming, just wait for replies or leave space between them
thanks iun advance ;)
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k;D;D;D
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Originally posted by EHM-0962
ii dont think that plane in the picture can carry 600 people........and triple deck airplanes as suggested? :o
i recently watched a discovery channel programme on the an-225.the guy said that back then after the soviet union collapsed,there were proposals to turn it into a flying cruise ship with 3 decks;D