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Title: CLS A340-600
Post by: EHM-1798 Conrad on February 27, 2006, 06:31:58 am

Has just been released to its pre-buyers, should be out soon!

Title: CLS A340-600
Post by: EHM-1703 Philip on March 02, 2006, 12:13:23 am

Shame it doesn't have a full function MCDU (FMC) like the PSS buses. Although the panel looks okay, I don't see that it warrants the cost but that's just me. I expect a lot from Payware aircraft these days and from the write up it looks like CLS doesn't deliver the sort of quality that PMDG, Level D & PSS do.

If you get it, let us know what it's like. I may be swayed if I hear good reports. ;)

Title: CLS A340-600
Post by: EHM-0641 Rico on March 02, 2006, 09:58:14 pm

Any links ??

Title: CLS A340-600
Post by: EHM-1703 Philip on March 02, 2006, 11:33:38 pm

Hi Rico,

Try here, there is a Photo link on that page as well.

http://www.commerciallevel.com/webshop/?actie=pshow&pid=9&groep=1&tag=Airbus

Title: CLS A340-600
Post by: EHM-0641 Rico on March 03, 2006, 10:43:26 pm

Ty for the link ... looks very promising indeed!!

Title: CLS A340-600
Post by: EHM-0641 Rico on March 03, 2006, 10:45:40 pm

Jesus!! what's the wingspan of this thing !!?? :o

Title: CLS A340-600
Post by: EHM-1651 Christian on March 04, 2006, 07:12:41 am

Airbus 340-600
AIRCRAFT DIMENSIONS
  metric  imperial  
       
 Overall length  75.30 m.  246 ft. 11 in.  
   
 Height   17.3 m.  56 ft. 9 in.  
   
 Fuselage diameter  5.64 m.  18 ft. 6 in.  
   
 Maximum cabin width  5.28 m.  17 ft. 4 in.  
   
 Cabin length  60.98 m.  200 ft. 1 in.  
   
 Wingspan (geometric)  63.45 m.  208 ft. 2 in.  
   
 Wing area (reference)  439.4 m2  4,729 ft2  
   
 Wing sweep (25% chord)  31.1 degrees  31.1 degrees  
   
 Wheelbase  32.89 m.  107 ft. 11 in.  
   
 Wheel track  10.69 m.  35 ft. 1 in.

Title: CLS A340-600
Post by: EHM-1343 Jonathan on March 04, 2006, 10:02:32 am

The Virtual Cockpit looks very very good....even by PMDG/LDS standards...

I think the FMC has all the functions needed for an online flight, so it isnt to bad. They dont do themselves justice, writing limited functionality lol!

Title: CLS A340-600
Post by: EHM-1703 Philip on March 04, 2006, 10:21:10 am

The one thing that hasn't been mentioned here is the frame rates. I don't have this plane so I couldn't comment but CLS do have a reputation for putting together addons that don't perform that well in the frame rate department. If anybody has invested in it, could you maybe give us a mini review?

EDIT
Okay got my first quick look at this product today. It is quite a nice exterior model although not a great deal better than the Simubuild version we have in our fleet. The VC is pretty good as mentioned before holds up quite well against PMDG etc. The 2d Panel, what a let down, this basically a reworked version of the Ken Mitchell panel available on the fleet page (Which is great but not for a payware A/C) with the addition of a basic FMC (Very basic) and a few more active switches and buttons. The flight model seems pretty good, I did a quick low level flight around Seattle City Center at 160kn and 500 ASL with no flaps and gear down and she handled well but you could tell you were on the edge of a stall. She seems quite realistic in her turns banking over slowly and turning like an Elephant on Ice! (very slowly and deliberatley) There is a number of nice GPWS callouts advising of adverse Bank Angles, Sink Rates, Altitude countdown and minimums but the engine sound in my opinion is awfull. (A poor low quality recording of the real thing I would guess) I did manage to stall her without the A-Floor kicking in and automatically shoving on the power so not quite realistic there. After messing around Seattle for 15 minutes, I turned for SeaTac and put her down right on the centre line with no aid of the Autopilot or ILS which I thought was a bit unrealistic, I am sure a bird this big would be a bit more of a handfull to fly. In short, fun for 15 minutes but the novelty soon wore off and I wouldn't pay 25 euros for it.

Title: CLS A340-600
Post by: EHM-1703 Philip on March 08, 2006, 12:32:21 am

Here's a couple of screenies for you!

Down and Dirty!
(http://img207.imageshack.us/img207/5681/cls15sq.jpg) (http://imageshack.us)

Up, Up and away!
(http://img207.imageshack.us/img207/8808/cls51yt.jpg) (http://imageshack.us)

2D Cockpit (Hmmmmm!)
(http://img211.imageshack.us/img211/3364/cls39mb.jpg) (http://imageshack.us)

The Virtual Cockpit, it's one saving grace!
(http://img211.imageshack.us/img211/8687/cls49mv.jpg) (http://imageshack.us)

Seattle Skyline!
(http://img207.imageshack.us/img207/5306/cls64oi.jpg) (http://imageshack.us)

In my opinion, this plane should be GROUNDED!
(http://img207.imageshack.us/img207/2293/cls94vq.jpg) (http://imageshack.us)

Title: CLS A340-600
Post by: EHM-1539 Pierre on March 08, 2006, 08:06:51 am

Too bad, it looks nice...

Title: CLS A340-600
Post by: EHM-1703 Philip on March 08, 2006, 05:05:56 pm

Yeah, if it wasn't for the 2d cockpit, FMC and sounds, it could be a great product. They have made a lot of the switches in the 2d cockpit active but unfortunately the buttons and switches look way too fake!

Title: CLS A340-600
Post by: EHM-1617 Iain on March 08, 2006, 06:51:20 pm

The 2D cockpit there looks VERY similar to many of Ken Mitchell's freeware offerings.

Title: CLS A340-600
Post by: EHM-1703 Philip on March 08, 2006, 07:01:59 pm

It is Ken Mitchell's panel mate. (Read above the picture post, sorry I edited my review in so you may have missed it)

Title: CLS A340-600
Post by: EHM-1358 Tim on March 08, 2006, 07:21:03 pm

The MCP looks horrible in the VC and the rest of the panel is flat.

Title: CLS A340-600
Post by: EHM-1358 Tim on March 08, 2006, 07:21:46 pm

The MCP looks horrible in the VC and the rest of the panel is flat.