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Title: Private Planes
Post by: EHM-1358 Tim on May 09, 2004, 09:42:22 pm
Hi guys, Ive been looking in the libary and Ive seen the Gergly ( I think thats how you speel it) has got his own private VC-10 with some kind of EHM colors. So could us other guy have our own private planes with some kind of EHM colors on?
Title: Private Planes
Post by: EHM-0933 Richard on May 09, 2004, 10:06:42 pm
I have often wondered about that. Unfortunatly, unless you are willing to make your own or you are high up in the management, you will have to do without.

Cheers
Rich
Title: Private Planes
Post by: EHM-1077 Emanuele on May 09, 2004, 10:32:02 pm
Indeed, private planes are only available
to members of the management who
request one for business purposes.

Oh, of course it also depends on how much
free time Gergely has available to do the
custom repaint.

Ciao ciao!

Manu
Title: Private Planes
Post by: EHM-0962 Zhen Yi on May 10, 2004, 06:18:31 am
Yup so it looks like common folks like us have no chance at all unless you join the management! good luck! ;)
Title: Private Planes
Post by: EHM-0001 Gergely on May 10, 2004, 06:42:46 am
Every Management member has the right for one priate aircraft in EHM livery, with custom colors of the stripes and custom tail logo. I have a VC-10 (I used to have a Beech 60 too but it won't work in fs2004 and no new model was released), Maarten has a Commander 520, Simao and Guillermo have Fokkers etc.

Some EHM contests have as first prize a private EHM aircraft. For example the story contest, and it was won by EHM695 Scott (he requested a private TU-154). :)
Title: Private Planes
Post by: EHM-1358 Tim on May 10, 2004, 06:29:08 pm
Well I dont think I would become a manager of a department very soon :].
Title: Private Planes
Post by: EHM-0933 Richard on May 10, 2004, 06:41:14 pm
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Well I dont think I would become a manager of a department very soon .

I wouldn't mind becomming a member of management. It looks very interesting. I would like to become the next EGLL hub manager ;D I am however only 16 and do not know if there is an age limit ;) Personally I do not think there should be as I am legally able to fly solo so I don't see why I can't manage a virtual hub?!

Cheers
Rich
Title: Private Planes
Post by: EHM-0744 Alex on May 10, 2004, 07:10:33 pm
I dont think theres a limit... well the time when we chose the ne EHAM manager the limit was 13 I remember... or was it the EGLL to be chosen? I dnt quite remember but it was 13.


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I wouldn't mind becomming a member of management. It looks very interesting.


Hey then send an email to Gergely applying for the new LGAV position, well, or maybe it isnt that interesting I remember I didnt apply for the EHAM (or EGLL) one b/c I decided to stay in LPPT as a pilot.

Anyway, cheers!

Alex;)

P.S. The requested planes are very nice indeed, I wouldnt mind having an MD-11 (or is that too big:%) in own private colors.
Title: Private Planes
Post by: EHM-1358 Tim on May 10, 2004, 07:14:21 pm
If I did ever become a member of management (that seems very unlikely:[)
I would still be looking for a nice plane :%
I might be like a 757 or something or even just a parachute :]
Title: Private Planes
Post by: EHM-0933 Richard on May 10, 2004, 07:20:31 pm
Thanks for the confidence booster Alex ;) The only problem is I am taking my GCSE's from this week till the end of June. So I probably don't have the time right now.

Cheers
Rich

P.S. Tim, you don't sound very confident in you flying! ;D
Title: Private Planes
Post by: EHM-1358 Tim on May 10, 2004, 07:26:22 pm
What do you mean by no very confident?

And yes again another quick reply ;D
Title: Private Planes
Post by: EHM-0933 Richard on May 10, 2004, 07:46:25 pm
Just kidding Tim, just commenting on the fact that you wouldn't mind a parachute as your private jet.

No hard feelins
Rich
;D
Title: Private Planes
Post by: EHM-0813 Guillermo on May 10, 2004, 08:16:50 pm
A long time ago, there was a screenshot contest. The winner of that contest won a private aircraft of choice, but Gergely also decided the management members could have their own private aircraft as well. I never flew with my private a/c, though.
Title: Private Planes
Post by: EHM-1358 Tim on May 10, 2004, 09:40:55 pm
Quote
Originally posted by rich_lufc
Just kidding Tim, just commenting on the fact that you wouldn't mind a parachute as your private jet.

No hard feelins
Rich
;D


Oh I was only only jokeing :]
Title: Private Planes
Post by: EHM-1077 Emanuele on May 10, 2004, 10:07:57 pm
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I am however only 16 and do not know if there is an age limit ;)


There currently is at least one member of
the management that is younger then you
or almost the same age.

But it's not so much the age that count.
Commitment, patience, communication
skills, creativity are far more important.

Ciao ciao!

Manu
Title: Private Planes
Post by: EHM-0933 Richard on May 10, 2004, 10:43:53 pm
Thanks for the sound advice Manu!

Cheers
Rich
;D
Title: Private Planes
Post by: EHM-0641 Rico on May 10, 2004, 11:18:38 pm
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Originally posted by Tim
.....And yes again another quick reply ;D



You live on this forum?
Title: Private Planes
Post by: EHM-0962 Zhen Yi on May 11, 2004, 02:22:57 am
Hmm a nice list of qualities......all i'm lacking is skills.........i think :P so.......what kind of skills do you people lack? Maybe i'll try to learn it! :P
Title: Private Planes
Post by: EHM-1358 Tim on May 11, 2004, 05:00:01 pm
Quote
Originally posted by EHM-0641
Quote
Originally posted by Tim
.....And yes again another quick reply ;D



You live on this forum?


Oh no I dont live here...Im just here a the right time ;)
Title: Private Planes
Post by: EHM-1077 Emanuele on May 11, 2004, 08:55:11 pm
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Hmm a nice list of qualities......all i'm lacking is skills.........i think :P so.......what kind of skills do you people lack? Maybe i'll try to learn it! :P


One could argue that a "maybe" implies
a lack of commitment... ;)

And if you read the sentence again, you
will notice that I was referring to -communication skills-.

Other skills that tend to be useful in a
relatively complex website as EHM's
are programming skills, especially with
PHP and MySQL. Both are used for the
generation of our dynamically generated
pages.

Something that has never been exploited
so far at EHM, is the possibility to use
Gmax not only to build new planes models
but also to create new frame-rate friendly
scenary, either EHM related or simply
related to the area you are interested in.
It could be a monument/building in your
area, an hangar at one of EHM's hub or
anything that you fancy and it's appropriate
to be part of the landscape in Flight Simulator.

As 3D modelling and texturing is not quite
simple, this would definitely show
commitment, patience, skills and creativity.

-AND- if you ever want to get into the
videogame industry it will probably turn
out useful for your curriculum.

Ciao ciao!

Manu
Title: Private Planes
Post by: EHM-1358 Tim on May 11, 2004, 09:13:38 pm
I was thinks of doing some work with Gmax but I wouldnt get a reply when signing up with it.:[
Title: Private Planes
Post by: EHM-0962 Zhen Yi on May 12, 2004, 12:25:31 pm
lol when i said maybe i meant i may not be smart enough for it.......as in things like programming.......:P

And what do you mean by useful to my curriculum?

I was planning to try out working with Gmax after my GCSE at the end of this year but does the software cost a lot?

And tim you're trying to sign up with?
Title: Private Planes
Post by: EHM-1388 Tiberiu on May 12, 2004, 12:39:01 pm
Gmax is free if you have FS2002. When asked for registration, there is a link that says you use FS2002... I guess it's the same for FS2004.
Title: Private Planes
Post by: EHM-0962 Zhen Yi on May 12, 2004, 01:14:12 pm
ah i see........i remember trying to use it before but didn't quite understand the programme........any tutorials to get a kickstart anywhere?
Title: Private Planes
Post by: EHM-0250 Magnus on May 12, 2004, 05:07:54 pm
Tutorials are included with the program. I think they have stuff on their webpage too.
Title: Private Planes
Post by: EHM-0962 Zhen Yi on May 13, 2004, 07:22:12 am
oh ok thanks! i never realised that......:P Now i'll have to search my computer to find out where it's buried......

Edit : I've just located my gmax software but cant seem to register it.......the link to register doesnt seem to be on the page i was directed to........any ideas?
Title: Private Planes
Post by: EHM-1358 Tim on May 13, 2004, 07:48:20 am
Thats the same with me, so I just gave up.
Title: Private Planes
Post by: EHM-0962 Zhen Yi on May 13, 2004, 08:14:21 am
Turns out that you need to use Internet Explorer to access the links........ :o I was using Mozilla........you?
Title: Private Planes
Post by: EHM-1358 Tim on May 13, 2004, 04:44:55 pm
Me... I was using IE6 I think or one of those IE
Title: Private Planes
Post by: EHM-0813 Guillermo on May 13, 2004, 06:17:47 pm
Gmax has got to be the most boring and difficult program I've ever worked with.
Title: Private Planes
Post by: EHM-1077 Emanuele on May 13, 2004, 11:32:32 pm
I can understand the difficulty, but why boring?

Ciao ciao!

Manu
Title: Private Planes
Post by: EHM-0962 Zhen Yi on May 14, 2004, 12:20:11 pm
Hmm then you should be able to access the registration link.......i managed to do so with IE 6......

I found gmax quite fun to work with although there's a dizzying range of modifying options that i've not seen yet :P have already started working on some models........the tutorial ones of course :P
Title: Private Planes
Post by: EHM-1077 Emanuele on May 15, 2004, 11:58:11 am
Tutorials are always the perfect place
to start working on many softwares.
I started from that and I eventually
got to do 3D computer graphics for
living.

I'm glad you are looking into Gmax.
It would be very useful to have people
skilled with it and interested in using it.

Ciao ciao!

Manu
Title: Private Planes
Post by: EHM-1358 Tim on May 15, 2004, 12:11:55 pm
I want to use it but I need them to reply with the activation code for it!!:@
Title: Private Planes
Post by: EHM-0962 Zhen Yi on May 15, 2004, 03:26:12 pm
I didn't get an activation mail either but the software started working after i registered.....
Title: Private Planes
Post by: EHM-1358 Tim on May 15, 2004, 04:08:56 pm
How did you register, you need the e-mail for that?
Title: Private Planes
Post by: EHM-0962 Zhen Yi on May 20, 2004, 12:11:15 pm
Just wondering.......have you gotten the programme to work yet?
Title: Private Planes
Post by: EHM-1358 Tim on May 20, 2004, 04:03:42 pm
No not yet. I think the e-mail dosnt work because I have an _ in it.
Title: Private Planes
Post by: EHM-0744 Alex on May 20, 2004, 08:00:22 pm
I've downloaded the Gmax program and installed it, it shows 4 grids for plotting points and different views, plus a bunch of strange buttons, however I have not yet tried to make anything or attempt to do so, I'll see once I get done reading the tutorials, maybe we could try to make that boat/airport that was on another thread, however I doubt it could be moving, but a stationary object would be pretty fine I think... I too had those Independence Day ships in FS2000 that Gergely brought up. Oh, and I have made an airport in AFCAD, a helicopter one w/ 2 rw's, one for large & another for GA planes, plus a bunch of helipads.

Cheers and I'll see if I can figure out how this thing works...

Alex;)
Title: Private Planes
Post by: EHM-0641 Rico on May 20, 2004, 10:01:02 pm
The Heli pads u made, are those rooftop heli pads, or just on the ground??
Title: Private Planes
Post by: EHM-1343 Jonathan on December 01, 2004, 12:05:00 pm
;D i just won the screenshot contest and was wondering about this statement


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Some EHM contests have as first prize a private EHM aircraft. For example the story contest, and it was won by EHM695 Scott (he requested a private TU-154).

Seen as I won a contest, is there any chance of me getting my own private plane.
I am not acting pushy or bragging just wondering, by the way it would be a boeing  737-600 made by PMDG, nice
Title: Private Planes
Post by: EHM-0361 Karsten on December 01, 2004, 12:38:11 pm
I would think that if such a prize was going to be awarded that it would have been announce when the contest was started. But in the end it's something that Gergely is going to decide.
Title: Private Planes
Post by: EHM-1343 Jonathan on December 01, 2004, 12:47:01 pm
Ok, thanks Karsten!
Title: Private Planes
Post by: EHM-0917 Kenneth on December 01, 2004, 01:15:32 pm
Usually for small screenshot contests like this the price is normally screenshot awards.
And of course the honor!  ;D
Title: Private Planes
Post by: EHM-1343 Jonathan on December 01, 2004, 01:18:07 pm
Yeah i am really chuffed, my Mother nearlly died when she saw that i had won, it is great to have parents who support my hobby.;D
Title: Private Planes
Post by: EHM-0001 Gergely on December 01, 2004, 01:44:00 pm
Hi Jonathan,

for a special prize, like a plane for example, pilots have to work harder, like writing stories for example... not only just pressing the PrintScreen key... ;)

Congrats for the winners!

Gergely
Title: Private Planes
Post by: EHM-1343 Jonathan on December 01, 2004, 01:53:21 pm
Oh well, mabey we could organize a story contest, that must have been how scott got his,
Cheers
Title: Private Planes
Post by: EHM-0962 Zhen Yi on December 01, 2004, 03:04:43 pm
Isn't he a member of management too?
Title: Private Planes
Post by: EHM-1343 Jonathan on December 01, 2004, 03:39:04 pm
Oh yeah, LSZH hub manager. it must have been before he was moved up to MA
Title: Private Planes
Post by: Anonymous on December 01, 2004, 03:55:50 pm
Quote
Originally posted by manu3d
Something that has never been exploited
so far at EHM, is the possibility to use
Gmax not only to build new planes models
but also to create new frame-rate friendly
scenary, either EHM related or simply
related to the area you are interested in.
It could be a monument/building in your
area, an hangar at one of EHM's hub or
anything that you fancy and it's appropriate
to be part of the landscape in Flight Simulator.



And how should this be inserted or recognized by FS? AFCAD or something similar? Some other compiler maybe?

I am very profficient in Max (Gmax is it's much cheaper child) and if inserting custom buildings is that easy, then hey, will have all our hubs marked! For a start...
Title: Private Planes
Post by: EHM-1123 Dejan on December 01, 2004, 04:00:37 pm
Quote
Originally posted by manu3d
Something that has never been exploited
so far at EHM, is the possibility to use
Gmax not only to build new planes models
but also to create new frame-rate friendly
scenary, either EHM related or simply
related to the area you are interested in.
It could be a monument/building in your
area, an hangar at one of EHM's hub or
anything that you fancy and it's appropriate
to be part of the landscape in Flight Simulator.

And how should these models be recognized or inserted in FS? AFCAD maybe, or some other compilers? If U have any knowledge about it Manu, I would like to hear it... I have experience in making game-ready models, but conversion was done by client, depending on the engine game uses.
If inserting custom objects in FS is no fuss, than hey, we'll have all our hubs marked! For a start...

Cheers
Title: Private Planes
Post by: EHM-1001 Robert on December 01, 2004, 07:42:32 pm
Technically, every 3D object is a BGL file with real world coordinates. If you put it into your main scenery folder, it will appear in the game undependent to what kind of main sceneries you use.

BGL files are export from by a kind of "codec".
Title: Private Planes
Post by: EHM-1123 Dejan on December 01, 2004, 07:50:07 pm
Hi there Robert,
I am just reading gmax sdk reference at msn, as well as some other articles about implanting custom objects and models into FS.
BGL is about traffic, I think, MDL is about scenery or any other.

I am still reading, though, and trying to learn more about it.
Thanks
Title: Private Planes
Post by: EHM-1077 Emanuele on December 02, 2004, 12:52:09 am
Dejan, just noticed your post.
I don't know the specifics of how to import Gmax scenary models
into FS. I just know it's possible and sounds like you are looking
exactly where I'd look to find such information.

Ciao ciao!

Manu
Title: Private Planes
Post by: EHM-1001 Robert on December 02, 2004, 08:26:36 am
MDL contains only aircraft model, while BGL contains scenery object/object group, that is why this extension also attached to AI traffic objects/routes too.
Title: Private Planes
Post by: EHM-1123 Dejan on December 02, 2004, 12:39:02 pm
@Robert:
You are 100% right Robert, didn't mean otherwise, sorry. After making more extensive search, I found that out myself.

@Manu:
Hehe, searching did show results, I figured it out. It's not that difficult if you know the modeling part, just few more tricks to get it into FS.
Thanks for your effort.

So, what should we make:)??
I thought to start from a simple EHM hangars(large,medium) placed at our hubs...
Will keep you posted.
Title: Private Planes
Post by: EHM-0962 Zhen Yi on December 02, 2004, 12:51:36 pm
I'm currently working on that now, albeit at a very slow pace due to being tied up (unexpectedly) at school from the beginning of the holidays right till the end (some holiday) :% besides i have no experience at all, you could probably roll all of them out before i even get one done :P :]
Title: Private Planes
Post by: EHM-1077 Emanuele on December 02, 2004, 04:30:08 pm
You could work together maybe, splitting the workload.


Ciao ciao!

Manu
Title: Private Planes
Post by: EHM-1343 Jonathan on December 02, 2004, 05:38:15 pm
Teamwork is a great idea, it would be easier faster and more fun;D
Title: Private Planes
Post by: EHM-1358 Tim on December 02, 2004, 05:47:48 pm
Ive made myself my own maint of the a320. I just  need to upload it.
Title: Private Planes
Post by: EHM-0962 Zhen Yi on December 03, 2004, 03:00:31 pm
Dejan's skills are way above mine so i think maybe i'll relegate myself to making those static objects that he wants :P maybe ;)
Title: Private Planes
Post by: EHM-1123 Dejan on December 03, 2004, 06:39:56 pm
Hey Zhen Yi, don't look down on yourself.. if U have will, you will have a skill guaranteed!:)
You are still young, so if U start now, I can't imagine where you'll be in 10yrs!;)

I am doing 2D&3D for 7 years, and to tell you the truth I feel retarded comparing to my profession community:)

Start small, do some static as you planned, few crates here, ladders there, things like that.

If U need any help, I would be glad to provide it!
Cheers
Title: Private Planes
Post by: EHM-1077 Emanuele on December 04, 2004, 12:11:21 am
Dejan is absolutely right Zhen Yi,

I've been doing 3D computer graphics for 9 yrs
and I'm already working on some of the best
projects in the industry.

A person said once: people overestimate what
they can do in one year, but underestimate what
they can do in ten. I totally believe in that.

Give yourself time and enjoy the steps along
the way.

Ciao ciao!

Manu
Title: Private Planes
Post by: EHM-1365 Benjamin on December 04, 2004, 02:06:47 am
Hey, that is seriously philosophical Dejan and Manu, but I completly aggree.....it is so suprising what you can do with a little training and practice
Title: Private Planes
Post by: EHM-0962 Zhen Yi on December 04, 2004, 08:44:14 am
Quote
Originally posted by manu3d
A person said once: people overestimate what
they can do in one year, but underestimate what
they can do in ten. I totally believe in that.


Hmm i've never heard of this quote before but i guess i agree with it too! :P I'll definitely try....i planned to start building a few buses today but forgot that i'll be flying to Australia tomorrow and need to prepare my luggage :$ I'll be back in one weeks time and will certainly post some pics for you guys to see! ;D mostly planes of course ;)
Title: Private Planes
Post by: EHM-0962 Zhen Yi on December 11, 2004, 02:45:53 pm
Just got back from Australia to discover that the power supply had blown without anyone using it :o anyway for me to confirm that that's what happened? cant work on the static objects now cause all my programmes are over at that comp.........