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Title: LearJet 45 !!!
Post by: EHM-1358 Tim on May 11, 2004, 05:06:55 pm
Ok what I want you people to do is try and take off and do a curcuit of the airport called SESM (i think).

Just gonna say, be aware that its a nasty airport!;D

Post you screens here!
Title: LearJet 45 !!!
Post by: EHM-1358 Tim on May 11, 2004, 05:21:27 pm
OK ive just tried about 3 times to get out of the bowl and its really hard. I even did it with a prop plane. I think the only way out of there it with a foghter jet.

p.s. dont try with a jumbo, its nasty!
Title: LearJet 45 !!!
Post by: EHM-0588 Paul on May 11, 2004, 05:40:43 pm
I knew this airfield already.
You can get out of the bowl with a cessna, just make sure to listen to the stall horn and keep turning. :P


Should have an old screenshot in here
http://members.lycos.nl/paulsoetens/index_gallery.html (http://members.lycos.nl/paulsoetens/index_gallery.html)

Also tried the Fokker 70 and almost made it.
Title: LearJet 45 !!!
Post by: EHM-0933 Richard on May 11, 2004, 06:32:18 pm
I gave it a go and boy was that hard! Obviously a problem with the terain mesh, I think it needs a patch? lol. Anyway, I then attempted to land. It didn't seem to hard until I had to carry out a very steep decent which meant I glided over half of the runway before toutching down! ;D . I was successful and here are the results:

(http://img5.imageshack.us/img5/715/fsscr1.JPG)
(http://img5.imageshack.us/img5/741/fsscr001.JPG)
(http://img4.imageshack.us/img4/7817/fsscr002.JPG)
(http://img5.imageshack.us/img5/9623/fsscr003.JPG)
(http://img5.imageshack.us/img5/9687/fsscr004.JPG)

Cheers
Rich
Title: LearJet 45 !!!
Post by: EHM-1358 Tim on May 11, 2004, 07:38:38 pm
I suppose that is FS2004 because mine looked alot differnt in FS2002.

And look at those massive Palm trees :o
Title: LearJet 45 !!!
Post by: EHM-0471 Peter on May 11, 2004, 10:57:11 pm
Tim, which airport is that SESM? Like to try and stay alive by God's will!

Peter
Title: LearJet 45 !!!
Post by: EHM-0641 Rico on May 11, 2004, 11:44:03 pm
RIO AMAZONAS
Effective 15 April 2004 to 12 May 2004

General Info  
Country Ecuador  
ICAO ID SESM  
Time UTC-5  
Latitude -1.505239
01° 30' 18.86" S  
Longitude -78.062675
078° 03' 45.63" W  
Elevation 3465 feet
1056 meters  
Magnetic Variation 001° W (03/04)  
Operating Agency DIRECTOR GENERAL OF CIVIL AERONAUTICS  
Alternate Name PASTAZA  
Near City Shell Mera  
Operating Hours SUNRISE TO SUNSET (SR-SS)  


Communications  
PASTAZA TWR 122.6  
PASTAZA RDO 126.9  
SHELL MERA APP 119.5  


Runways  
ID
(Click for details.) Dimensions Surface PCN ILS  
12/30  5047 x 80 feet
1538 x 24 meters ASPHALT 158FAWT NO  


Navaids  
Type ID Name Channel Freq Distance From Field Bearing From Navaid  
VOR-DME PAV PASTAZA 078X 113.1 1.2 NM 297.4  
NDB PTZ PASTAZA - 340 1.3 NM 301.2  


Supplies/Equipment  
Fuel Unknown fuel type or whether there is any fuel.  


Remarks  
FUEL (NC-A1)  
OPR HOURS Opr SR-SS.  


Courtesy off World Aeronautical Database (http://worldaerodata.com/)
Title: LearJet 45 !!!
Post by: EHM-1388 Tiberiu on May 11, 2004, 11:56:04 pm
On virtual.planepictures.net (http://virtual.planepictures.net) I found a couple of pics that would indicate that bigger birds took off from there:

(http://virtual.planepictures.net/a/SESM/1069444869.jpg)

You think they were cheating?
Title: LearJet 45 !!!
Post by: EHM-1388 Tiberiu on May 11, 2004, 11:58:42 pm
I'll give it some tries later on, and I'll let you know of the results... right now I'm flying LSZH-LHBP in the CRJ ;D
Title: LearJet 45 !!!
Post by: EHM-1388 Tiberiu on May 12, 2004, 02:35:00 am
Ok, I did it...
First, I tried with the CRJ 200ER... Getting out of the crater was no problem, but landing was impossible. At best I managed to touch down about 100ft from the end of the rwy... so not enough room to stop it.

Getting out of the crater in the CRJ 200ER:

(http://www.fspics.as.ro/fsscr005.jpg)
(http://www.fspics.as.ro/fsscr006.jpg)

But then I realised that there is one plane in the EHM fleet that could do it (besides the ones in the VFA) Antonov 140 ;D
Getting out was no problem:

(http://www.fspics.as.ro/fsscr007.jpg)
(http://www.fspics.as.ro/fsscr008.jpg)
(http://www.fspics.as.ro/fsscr009.jpg)

Ok, now let's try to get back in there... full flaps, landing gear down, spoilers, and a very hard slide:

(http://www.fspics.as.ro/fsscr012.jpg)
(http://www.fspics.as.ro/fsscr013.jpg)

Lining up, a little high over the tresh-hold:

(http://www.fspics.as.ro/fsscr014.jpg)
(http://www.fspics.as.ro/fsscr015.jpg)

Touch down - a little to the right though - and full stop, with plenty of rwy left:

(http://www.fspics.as.ro/fsscr016.jpg)
(http://www.fspics.as.ro/fsscr017.jpg)

Ok, so it can be done :8
Title: LearJet 45 !!!
Post by: EHM-0962 Zhen Yi on May 12, 2004, 12:36:17 pm
But they did it with a 737? :)
Title: LearJet 45 !!!
Post by: EHM-1388 Tiberiu on May 12, 2004, 12:40:06 pm
No, they did it in a DC-10 ;)
Title: LearJet 45 !!!
Post by: EHM-0641 Rico on May 12, 2004, 01:10:42 pm
Quote
Originally posted by blood13
Ok, so it can be done :8


Very nice !!;)

Good job, and excellent pics ..
Title: LearJet 45 !!!
Post by: EHM-0962 Zhen Yi on May 12, 2004, 01:16:00 pm
Quote
Originally posted by blood13
No, they did it in a DC-10 ;)


That's a DC-10?
Title: LearJet 45 !!!
Post by: EHM-0641 Rico on May 12, 2004, 01:20:53 pm
I think it's fake...

A DC-10 needs more then the 1500 meters of runway SESM provides to t/o and land
Title: LearJet 45 !!!
Post by: EHM-1388 Tiberiu on May 12, 2004, 01:35:05 pm
Quote

A DC-10 needs more then the 1500 meters of runway SESM provides to t/o and land


I agree with you, but the picture in my first post is a DC-10.
Title: LearJet 45 !!!
Post by: EHM-1358 Tim on May 12, 2004, 04:08:29 pm
Quote
Originally posted by Peter
Tim, which airport is that SESM? Like to try and stay alive by God's will!

Peter


Im not sure whats its called but I havent made it out yet. Its like the Bemuda Triangle for me :o
Title: LearJet 45 !!!
Post by: EHM-1358 Tim on May 12, 2004, 04:10:05 pm
Oh theres a site about it with airport plates for it... I will try and find them.
Title: LearJet 45 !!!
Post by: EHM-1358 Tim on May 12, 2004, 04:18:32 pm
OK ive found some info here it is...
-The airport is just a hole in the earth because Microsoft obviously overdid the mesh terrain in this case :-).

-Make a short trip from SEAM to SESM, approx. 30 NM.

(http://www.dangerous-airports.com/airports/s/sesm30-a.jpg)

If you want some more dangerous airports go to...
http://www.dangerous-airports.com/
Title: LearJet 45 !!!
Post by: EHM-0641 Rico on May 12, 2004, 04:37:37 pm
Quote
Originally posted by Tim
Quote
Originally posted by Peter
Tim, which airport is that SESM? Like to try and stay alive by God's will!

Peter


Im not sure whats its called but I havent made it out yet. Its like the Bemuda Triangle for me :o


If you would be so kind to SCROLL UP to my EARLIER post, you'll get ALL the info you need
Title: LearJet 45 !!!
Post by: EHM-1358 Tim on May 12, 2004, 06:26:41 pm
Thank you for that, EVEN TOUGHT YOU SAID IT BEFORE!!!!;)
Title: LearJet 45 !!!
Post by: EHM-1358 Tim on May 12, 2004, 09:51:58 pm
Heres a nice pic from when I was taking off. Pitty I never made it out :'(

(http://img2.imageshack.us/img2/7716/fsscr021.gif)
Title: LearJet 45 !!!
Post by: EHM-0641 Rico on May 13, 2004, 04:16:14 am
Quote
Originally posted by Tim
Thank you for that, EVEN TOUGHT YOU SAID IT BEFORE!!!!;)


Yeah...

And still the same questions are asked   :%
Title: LearJet 45 !!!
Post by: EHM-0001 Gergely on May 13, 2004, 07:10:09 am
I remember the airport was included in FS2000 too and it looked just the same. Also it's possible to make it in a DHC-6.
Title: LearJet 45 !!!
Post by: EHM-0962 Zhen Yi on May 13, 2004, 07:26:14 am
Hmm i think i'll try it too if it's in FS2002.......hey guys we really need to stop thrashing the company's planes trying to climb out of that hole! ;D ;)
Title: LearJet 45 !!!
Post by: EHM-1358 Tim on May 13, 2004, 07:51:39 am
Yeah this idea seems bad...
Wonder how many planes in our fleet we've lost;)
Title: LearJet 45 !!!
Post by: EHM-0001 Gergely on May 15, 2004, 08:00:44 pm
Try to land at BIIS, I almost crashed the plane 3 times until I managed to land (it was on IVAO).

Other dangerous airfields are VNLK and LFLJ.
Title: LearJet 45 !!!
Post by: EHM-1388 Tiberiu on May 15, 2004, 08:09:10 pm
VNLK (Lukla, Nepal) isn't too easy, either ;D
Title: LearJet 45 !!!
Post by: EHM-1388 Tiberiu on May 15, 2004, 08:10:00 pm
Ooops... sorry Gergely, I didn't see it in your post :%
Title: LearJet 45 !!!
Post by: EHM-1034 Kris on May 16, 2004, 01:37:07 am
I tried SESM to in a B737. It took me 4 times to get the plane on the runway. In a rather passenger-unfriendly way. I brought the plane in a stall, started a lot of prayers, and pushed the thrust-levers full forward, pulled the nose up, bounced a long the runway and came to a stop with a few meters to spare. I'm still trying to get the plane out of this godforsaken hole.
Title: LearJet 45 !!!
Post by: EHM-0641 Rico on May 18, 2004, 12:17:01 am
For me Kai-Tak will always be the most challenging airport.

That checkerboard scares the hell outta me when approaching in an 747.  d**n...
Title: LearJet 45 !!!
Post by: EHM-1358 Tim on May 18, 2004, 07:48:07 am
Ive landed at the new airport I think it was at Hong Kong. Its was kinda hard cos it was in a 747 and it was really foggy. Lucky I know how to use ILS ;)
It was a perfect landing in a 747 for me. Well the first time I landed it :%
Title: LearJet 45 !!!
Post by: EHM-0641 Rico on May 19, 2004, 12:50:27 am
You flew a 747 ..?? I don't recall you having the rank for that :%
Title: LearJet 45 !!!
Post by: EHM-1388 Tiberiu on May 19, 2004, 10:49:35 am
Quote

You flew a 747 ..?? I don't recall you having the rank for that


I don't recall a rule about flying the plane of your choice on non-scheduled EHM flight as long as you don't report it, right?
Title: LearJet 45 !!!
Post by: EHM-0813 Guillermo on May 19, 2004, 03:24:17 pm
Try the airfield called SABA (that's the ICAO code if I remember correctly). It's a small airstrip on a vulcano island near the netherlands antilles. My mom used to visit that island frequently in a Twin Otter, but even with a Cessna this is one impossible airstrip for me!
Title: LearJet 45 !!!
Post by: EHM-0933 Richard on May 19, 2004, 05:00:02 pm
Lets get some pics of it!!!

Cheers
Rich
;D
Title: LearJet 45 !!!
Post by: EHM-0641 Rico on May 19, 2004, 07:01:12 pm
Quote
Originally posted by Gizmo2k4
Try the airfield called SABA (that's the ICAO code if I remember correctly). It's a small airstrip on a vulcano island near the netherlands antilles.


I live 500nm from that place .!!  I currently recide on Curaçao {ICAO: TNCC}

Believe when I tell you that it's even scarier if ur on that plane as an passenger  !!

Regards,
Title: LearJet 45 !!!
Post by: EHM-0962 Zhen Yi on May 20, 2004, 12:26:23 pm
You're right Tiberiu there doesnt seem to be any rules against that :P
Title: LearJet 45 !!!
Post by: EHM-1358 Tim on May 20, 2004, 04:01:46 pm
Quote
Originally posted by EHM-0641
You flew a 747 ..?? I don't recall you having the rank for that :%


I didnt fly a EHM flight with it, it was a flight from a site I found.
Title: LearJet 45 !!!
Post by: EHM-0641 Rico on May 20, 2004, 10:06:43 pm
Try airliners.net for pictures of landing s at SABA ... very frightening
Title: LearJet 45 !!!
Post by: EHM-1388 Tiberiu on May 29, 2004, 02:56:34 am
Good God... remember Lukla (VNLK)?
A plane just crashed trying to land there (May 25th).
It was a De Havilland Canada DHC-6 Twin Otter 300 operated by Yeti Airlines, reg 9N-AFD, and was flying a cargo load from Kathmandu. At that the time of the crash there was heavy cloud buildup over the 3,600 m Lamjura Pass which planes have to cross to get into Lukla. All three people on board were killed. RIP
:[
Title: LearJet 45 !!!
Post by: EHM-0441 Stefan on July 16, 2004, 01:08:50 pm
I made it with the learJet... I had to fly aginst the walls first to the left and then across and then against the other wall and turn steep right.. (ps All turns was extremly steep..ds) but I made it out.. I got a screenshot, but how do I get it in here? :P

EHM-0441
Title: LearJet 45 !!!
Post by: EHM-0962 Zhen Yi on July 17, 2004, 05:42:21 am
Here goes

(http://etc...)
Title: LearJet 45 !!!
Post by: EHM-1343 Jonathan on July 19, 2004, 07:17:26 pm
First you need to upload the image to the internet. If you do not have your own webpage upload it to imageshack.us or another image host

Thanks
Title: LearJet 45 !!!
Post by: EHM-0744 Alex on July 19, 2004, 08:30:27 pm
Juancho Yrausquin Airport (http://www.airliners.net/open.file?id=490051&WxsIERv=RGUgSGF2aWxsYW5kIENhbmFkYSBESEMtNiBUd2luIE90dGVyIChWLTE4KQ%3D%3D&WdsYXMg=V2luQWly&QtODMg=U2FiYSAtIFlyYXVzcXVpbiAoU0FCIC8gVE5DUyk%3D&ERDLTkt=TmV0aGVybGFuZHMgQW50aWxsZXM%3D&ktODMp=RGVjZW1iZXIgMjEsIDIwMDM%3D&BP=1&WNEb25u=SGVpbm8gdm9uIEhlaW1idXJn&xsIERvdWdsY=UEotV0lM&MgTUQtODMgKE=SnVhbmNobyBZcmF1c3F1aW4gQWlycG9ydC4gMSwzMTIgZnQsIHdvcmxkJ3Mgc2hvcnRlc3QgY29tbWVyY2lhbCBhaXJwb3J0LiBPZmZpY2lhbGx5LCB0aGUgcnVud2F5IGlzIHBlcm1hbmVudGx5IGNsb3NlZCB0byBhbGwgYWlyIHRyYWZmaWMgYXMgaXMgZGVzaWduYXRlZCBieSB0aGUgIlgiIG9uIGVhY2ggZW5kLiBIb3dldmVyLCBhaXJjcmFmdCBhcmUgcGVybWl0dGVkIHRvIG9wZXJhdGUgb24gU2FiYSBieSBvYnRhaW5pbmcgd2FpdmVycyBmcm9tIHRoZSBOZXRoZXJsYW5kcyBBbnRpbGxlcycgQ2l2aWwgQXZpYXRpb24gQXV0aG9yaXR5LiAoS29uaWNhIFJldmlvIEtELTQxMFop&YXMgTUQtODMgKERD=MTIzNDE%3D&NEb25uZWxs=MjAwNC0wMS0xNQ%3D%3D&ODJ9dvCE=V000MTE%3D&O89Dcjdg=&static=yes&size=L)
Title: LearJet 45 !!!
Post by: EHM-0962 Zhen Yi on July 20, 2004, 08:40:39 am
Whoops forgot to mention the hosting part :P

LOL at Alex's linked picture....they call that a runway?! :] :o
Title: LearJet 45 !!!
Post by: EHM-1459 Jonny on August 31, 2004, 03:34:13 am
Just for laughs try an airport in Washington State - ICAO: 15S...the runway is only 400' because it's meant for ultralights but it's a beautiful area to fly in because it's so close to Mt. Rainier
Title: LearJet 45 !!!
Post by: EHM-1001 Robert on August 31, 2004, 07:11:15 am
Well, I always wanted to try these airports, so tonite I will give it a go.

Do you remember the movie Air America ? There was a tricky airstrip there too, which was in a hills side. It was easy to land because after touchdown, the plane should hillclimb, so it stopped soon. Takeoff was also funny... downhill ;D
Title: LearJet 45 !!!
Post by: EHM-0001 Gergely on September 22, 2004, 04:49:26 pm
While flying about in Eastern Europe, I found some interesting places:

LW0C, LW0D, LW0E etc - I wonder what kinds of planes can land/take off on these airfields...

LAKO - Another 'hole in the ground' style airport

enjoy! :)
Title: LearJet 45 !!!
Post by: EHM-1358 Tim on September 22, 2004, 05:37:15 pm
I know this is off topic, the the forum has changed.
Title: LearJet 45 !!!
Post by: EHM-0962 Zhen Yi on September 23, 2004, 08:21:05 am
Are there really any real "hole in the ground" airport in real life? Keep hearing about so many of them in FS......
Title: LearJet 45 !!!
Post by: EHM-0001 Gergely on October 05, 2004, 11:16:36 am
Ok, another nice one... :D

Go to the airport VILH and select runway 6 or 24 in the menu. Now try to take off from there! :)
Title: LearJet 45 !!!
Post by: EHM-1821 Javier on August 13, 2006, 06:32:02 am
bringing this thread back alive with a bang, after reading this thread, i decided to try and takeoff from rwy 7 of VNLK...of course not with just any plane...
on the runway...
(http://img223.imageshack.us/img223/1672/rwy7vnlkzn1.png)
Rotate!
(http://img223.imageshack.us/img223/2521/rotateqf3.png)
Climb...
(http://img223.imageshack.us/img223/4401/climbqp3.png)
Almost there...
(http://img223.imageshack.us/img223/1636/almosttm8.png)
half of the plane out...
(http://img223.imageshack.us/img223/3003/almostbx3.png)
Success!
(http://img223.imageshack.us/img223/9011/successvr6.png)

the mighty Su-35 does it!
Title: LearJet 45 !!!
Post by: EHM-1671 Ben on August 13, 2006, 08:42:36 am
Wow Javier, that's wild!
Title: LearJet 45 !!!
Post by: EHM-1612 Paolo on August 13, 2006, 11:35:45 am
ahahaha I think that only an helicopter can repeat that......maybe with a kite is easier ahahaha
Wild!
Title: LearJet 45 !!!
Post by: EHM-1821 Javier on August 13, 2006, 01:49:54 pm
Nah,tried a Heli and it cant do it either, not even the F-35B(X-35 VSTOL)

erm...anyone got a kite aircraft??;D