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Title: PMDG repaints?
Post by: funkyone on June 07, 2004, 05:12:52 am
PMDG has wonderful B1900 and 737 ,738 aircrafts. Is there euroharmony repaints for them?:%
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Post by: EHM-1388 Tiberiu on June 07, 2004, 02:39:05 pm
No.
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Post by: EHM-0001 Gergely on June 07, 2004, 03:17:45 pm
Not yet... ;)
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Post by: EHM-0273 Gareth on September 05, 2004, 05:46:35 pm
Did anything come of this? I've just started flying this incredible plane, and would love a Euroharmony paint for it.

Cheers,
Gareth Evans
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Post by: EHM-1001 Robert on September 05, 2004, 08:42:36 pm
As I know, PMDG is not freeware, so we cannot make repaints for those models.
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Post by: EHM-0695 Scott on September 06, 2004, 04:55:20 am
Understandable if there were no freeware models available but, there are current freeware models in the fleet. However, might be nice to see some screenshots of these amazing planes in the ol' blue and white.
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Post by: EHM-1001 Robert on September 06, 2004, 10:52:46 am
I think the current freeware models are enough detailed and framerate friendly for the present hardware. It means, the number of polygons that a model have,  and those so much MByte textures are well fitted for our current PC-s.

I think the final quality of a virtual aircraft depends mostly on the repainter. It is useless to have the fuselage from 8 pieces of 1024x1024 pixels sized textures, if it consist of big 1 colored areas and nothing else. If a repaint contain more details then it look more real, and more beautiful. We do not have to go too far to check this point of view: you will not find any planes that is better detailed in repaints than our B747 and TU204. And if it depends on me, the list will grow time by time.

I think the commercial packages have only 1 advantage: the cockpit. A good virtual cockpit, and a nice panel (not a collection of many gauges, but really programmed together to be perfect) can raise the quality of a plane significantly. That is why I am too thinking of buying the B747 of PMDG when it comes out.

But at the moment I do not have any of the commercial planes so I could not test them in the game. That is why there are no EHM repaints for them.
Title: PMDG repaints?
Post by: EHM-1328 Willem on September 06, 2004, 06:40:58 pm
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Originally posted by SirRoberto
As I know, PMDG is not freeware, so we cannot make repaints for those models.

Paint-kits  PMDG 737-600/700/800/900 and beechcraft 1900D download at
http://www.precisionmanuals.com/

I fly mostly the 737-800 in Athens 2004 Olympic repaint(no EHM colors).

PMDG is one of the best there is,  but expensiv,
737-600/700 $39,95,  and the update to 800/900 $ 27,95

The update is needed for FMC ect.
Only for Win-XP !!

(If fly also a 747-200 ReadyForPuschback, and this is almost as real as you get.
its a pitty its not in fleet of EHM.)



Regards, Willem.
Title: PMDG repaints?
Post by: EHM-1343 Jonathan on September 06, 2004, 07:00:36 pm
I was thinking of mabey a 747 200 in the Euroholidays fleet, instead of a Tristar, i was not sure though because i thought that the Plane was a favourite. But i think i will put my point across now.

Any thoughts
Title: PMDG repaints?
Post by: EHM-1343 Jonathan on September 06, 2004, 07:01:15 pm
Sorry for being off topic
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Post by: EHM-0695 Scott on September 07, 2004, 02:16:54 am
Razza,

Perhaps you can tell management why you think the Tristar needs to be replaced with the 747-200?
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Post by: EHM-1001 Robert on September 07, 2004, 01:26:58 pm
I think if we want to implement a new 747, it should be the SP version. You know that is the funny looking 747-400 with a very short fuselage.
Title: PMDG repaints?
Post by: EHM-1365 Benjamin on September 08, 2004, 03:09:26 pm
Personally I think an early 747 is a great idea, I love the shape of the original. The 747-400 has always seemed a little.....cant think of a word.....not to my liking.
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Post by: EHM-1365 Benjamin on September 08, 2004, 03:19:21 pm
Suddenly thought, while we are talking about the fleet, how about a SATIC/Airbus A300-600T Beluga for the cargo fleet :):)

lol....craaaazy i know
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Post by: EHM-0962 Zhen Yi on September 11, 2004, 06:01:46 am
Though its a bit ugly i've always wanted to fly one of those :P anyone seen a good model of it anywhere?
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Post by: EHM-1358 Tim on September 11, 2004, 10:13:36 am
You can paint it inEHM colours cos it has free repaint kits on there website.
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Post by: EHM-0273 Gareth on September 11, 2004, 10:30:57 am
I'd love to, but I don't even know where to begin.
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Post by: EHM-1365 Benjamin on September 11, 2004, 02:54:25 pm
On whose website....I have been looking for one for years:o
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Post by: EHM-1358 Tim on September 11, 2004, 04:32:33 pm
www.precisionmanual.com go to the downloads part.
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Post by: EHM-1539 Pierre on December 09, 2004, 12:16:03 am
Hello, I'm a new member from yesterday. Happy to enter EHM and discovering the online flying.
I'm also a PMDG addict, and a computer graphism student.
Have the PDMG repaint kits, so if one of you give me files (PSD, AI or even JPG) used to make EHM liveries as a reference I can give it a try.
See you soon in the skies :>
Title: PMDG repaints?
Post by: EHM-1343 Jonathan on December 09, 2004, 07:40:10 pm
thatwould be great, i reccomend you ask Robert Sziskzo, soz robert if it is spelt wrongly, he is our #1 aircraft painter.
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Post by: EHM-1001 Robert on December 09, 2004, 09:38:40 pm
Once, there was a package for developers, and aircraft repainters. So, HERE IS A LINK (http://robert.euroharmony.com/aircraft/developer-kit.zip) for a similar package. It includes all raw material that is needed for a EHM repaint. ;)
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Post by: EHM-1539 Pierre on December 09, 2004, 09:53:16 pm
Thanks a lot, looks like some people out there really want the PMDGs in EHM livery ^^
Ok, I'll first try the PMDG B1900D, the link you gave me and the official 1900D from the fleet as a reference should do.
I'll inform you when it advances and post screens when I get results.
Title: PMDG repaints?
Post by: EHM-1001 Robert on December 09, 2004, 10:00:56 pm
All right. You may know, the 737-800 is ready, you can see it in Murray's sig. I will tra to add the same design for the 737-600 model soon.
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Post by: EHM-1539 Pierre on December 09, 2004, 10:09:40 pm
Can't wait the future 747-400 from PMDG, and seeing it in EHM colors :)
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Post by: EHM-1001 Robert on December 09, 2004, 10:13:47 pm
Me too! But I am afraid a bit it will brake down the frame rates.
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Post by: EHM-0273 Gareth on December 09, 2004, 10:16:52 pm
Yes, very much looking forward to the 747. Can't wait to see the 737 repaints too.
I think it would be good if those who use payware aircraft for Eurohermony flights could also sport the great liveries that have been designed.
Title: PMDG repaints?
Post by: EHM-1343 Jonathan on December 10, 2004, 08:00:40 am
Yeah, I agree  EHM 0273.Robert, although it is very realistic, i think it will run at about the same speed and F/Rates as the 737-600/700/800/900NG
Title: PMDG repaints?
Post by: EHM-0654 Murray on December 10, 2004, 05:19:39 pm
Don't want to stop anyone else from doing a repaint with this post, but as I had the day off work today I cracked on and did a very quick EHM repaint of the PMDG Beechcraft 1900D (http://webmail.liquidthinking.co.uk/~murray/euroharmony/EHM_PMDG_B1900D.zip).

Here's a thumbnail to a screeny of it, click for bigness.

[img=80x60]http://webmail.liquidthinking.co.uk/~murray/euroharmony/EHM_PMDG_B1900D.png[/img] (http://webmail.liquidthinking.co.uk/~murray/euroharmony/EHM_PMDG_B1900D.png)

Read the included README.txt or my post in the EHM webtitles thread for installation instructions. I recommend using the NAYSA repaint from the PMDG website (http://www.precisionmanuals.com/downloads/detail.asp?iFile=332&iType=24) as the "base" onto which to install my texture files.
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Post by: EHM-1343 Jonathan on December 10, 2004, 05:32:47 pm
Great murray, but where is the  thumbnail
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Post by: EHM-1539 Pierre on December 10, 2004, 05:39:14 pm
Well, I'm waiting to see it, if it's good enough ;) then I'll stop the one I am doing right now. Otherwise I'll post the first version tonight.
Anyway, I wish to precise that if I do PMDG repaints, it don't mean in any way that any already existing PMDG EHM repaint isn't good. I don't would like to insult repainters.

EDIT : seen the previous version, it's neat. I'll go on with mine tough, as it's different. I am doing it more like the original EHM 1900D, so the livery is different.
Title: PMDG repaints?
Post by: EHM-1343 Jonathan on December 10, 2004, 05:56:23 pm
Ok I found it. I'm not sure if you said it before MAABAA but will you do the 737-600 in EHM livery.

Please
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Post by: EHM-1343 Jonathan on December 10, 2004, 05:58:52 pm
And Maurray, that is very nice.
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Post by: EHM-1539 Pierre on December 11, 2004, 12:15:16 am
Here it is.

EuroHarmony Livery for PMDG Express B1900D (http://maabaa.free.fr/EHM/PMDGX_B1900D_EuroHarmony.exe)

It's a BETA version, it means IT'S NOT FINISHED.
For FS2004 only ! (might make a 2002 version if enough people request it).
I will finish it next week.
I'll welcome any comment on the livery itself, and the installer.
For imperfections, like the nose gear trap, the bottom and side fuselage link, the propeller cones not reflective etc... I know it, that's why I call it a beta version, will fix all that next week, and work on the installer too.
Hope you enjoy :)

 (http://maabaa.free.fr/EHM/EHM1900D.jpg)
 
Caution 56k users, switch to 21st century mode - 8.25MO ;D
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Post by: EHM-1358 Tim on December 11, 2004, 10:26:00 am
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Originally posted by maabaa
Here it is.

EuroHarmony Livery for PMDG Express B1900D ([url]http://maabaa.free.fr/EHM/PMDGX_B1900D_EuroHarmony.exe[/url])

It's a BETA version, it means IT'S NOT FINISHED.
For FS2004 only ! (might make a 2002 version if enough people request it).
I will finish it next week.
I'll welcome any comment on the livery itself, and the installer.
For imperfections, like the nose gear trap, the bottom and side fuselage link, the propeller cones not reflective etc... I know it, that's why I call it a beta version, will fix all that next week, and work on the installer too.
Hope you enjoy :)

 ([url]http://maabaa.free.fr/EHM/EHM1900D.jpg[/url])
 
Caution 56k users, switch to 21st century mode - 8.25MO ;D


Thats a very nice paint, I think I will fly it soon.
Title: PMDG repaints?
Post by: EHM-1001 Robert on December 11, 2004, 10:51:30 am
Very nice repaint, but I would like to give you some rules for the future, that I learned from Gergely about the EHM stripes.

The main thing in the livery are the 2 lighter coil stripes. When  adding the livery layer, you can distort it several ways to fit nicely to the aircraft body. Here is my technic:
1. I adjust the height of the 2 coil stripes by resizing the whole layer. The 2 stripes should fit nicely within the area of window line and the wing. I usually let a gap below the windows about 0,5...1,0 height of the window. Then let the bottom dark blue area to almost hidden by the wing.
2. Setup a basic length. I resize the whole livery so it fits to the whole length of the aircraft, but I try to do it so the stripes start to bend upward only after the last window in the line. If it is not possible, than leave it for a while.
3. Checking the nose. I move the whole layer to forward toward the nose, and move it until the stripes bending nicely downward. There is a nice point where the bending stripes do not take too much space from the nose.
4. Checking the middle section. I usually do the steps 2...4 many times to find a good result. Here I try to adjust the length of the stripes to be not so short. I mean I try to adjust that section of the 2 stripes when they replaces each other, to look nice. By this, usually the back section is distorting and with luck it will look nice.
5. Chacking again the back sectio, so the stripes start bending upward only after the last window. If not, I lengthen a bit the back section of the stripes. Then according the aircraft shape I occasionally distort the section when the stripes brake upward, and adjust its correct length.
6. Finally when the stripes are wided/lengthened correctly, it is time to finish them. Because i nthe 1st step you surely distort them, so they will not fit the whole body vertically. In the bottom they will not reach the aircraft bottom. So finally, I manually paint the areas at the bottom of the aircraft, and manually lengthen the short stripes/areas at the nose too.

I hope it may helped and was clear ;D Keep up the good. work.
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Post by: EHM-1358 Tim on December 11, 2004, 10:53:58 am
The engines look nice tough.
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Post by: EHM-1539 Pierre on December 11, 2004, 04:41:34 pm
Thanks, and thanks a lot for the advice.
I'll try to finish it this week, but i might not be able to before january. Have a lot of work, storyboard, video, etc to give back monday and tuesday... Taking off for Bangkok Thursday evening :)
For the stripes, i'll do what you tell me, and if it's not optimal, i'll redraw them (had to already for the top tail under illustrator).

And after that, since I'm used to my addons, I'm planning to repaint my favourite next classes addons too if able, and share it if people are interrested. That would be :
-Aerosoft ATR 42
-Aerosoft ATR 72
-Wilco/Feelthere CRJ-200
-PMDG 737-800 (Murray is already working on it so I'll see)
-PSS Airbus A330
-PMDG 747-400 Queen of the Skies (when it's out ^^)
Title: PMDG repaints?
Post by: EHM-0654 Murray on December 11, 2004, 06:31:59 pm
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Originally posted by maabaa
-PMDG 737-800 (Murray is already working on it so I'll see)


Bless you, but the 737-800 repaint is Robert's.

My only involvment was badgering on the forums until Robert did it, then writing a quick install post ;D
Title: PMDG repaints?
Post by: EHM-1539 Pierre on December 11, 2004, 06:38:44 pm
Oops, my bad. Sorry Robert :s
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Post by: EHM-1001 Robert on December 11, 2004, 08:20:40 pm
No problem :) I will try to make the 737-600 in the same Web livery if you want. Looking forward to the 747.
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Post by: EHM-1343 Jonathan on December 11, 2004, 09:23:43 pm
Yes, oh i remember You are doing a real world project so don't rush yourself.
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Post by: EHM-1001 Robert on December 11, 2004, 09:52:01 pm
Oh yes, trying to keep the balance. ;D
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Post by: EHM-1429 Lienhard on December 22, 2004, 01:57:37 pm
Thank you very much for the artistry work, maabaa. A few days ago a bought a PMDG Beech 1900 for my virtual hangar , too - and since then I am addicted to this aircraft. :8

Maybe I will take it onto my world tour, if flight ranges and rwy lenghts (especially in africa) support.

The precision cockpit and the high polygon model are very delighting.
( although the model is a framerate buster - need quite a fast computer ).