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Archive => EuroHarmony VA => Old Forum => Ask EuroHarmony => Topic started by: EHM-1459 Jonny on August 23, 2004, 04:58:00 am
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I am wondering if is it at all possible to have a repair team that flys to various destinations when an aircraft is in need of repair. Here is my idea...pilot has any kind of problem and reports it in a forum or a new entry box in the PIREP form. The EH repair team then flies to the place where the aircraft is decides whether or not they can fix it on the spot, if it needs to be flown to the nearest hub, or if it needs to be dismantled and/or thrown away. If the aircraft can be fixed on the spot, it is flown back to the nearest hub. However, if it cannot be repaired on the spot and needs to return to a hub for repairs the pilot sets in certain failures to occur according to what the problem is. EX. If the pilot reports an altimeter failure, then the repair pilot sets in an altimeter failure to occur during the flight. The only thing I have not figured out is what aircraft would be used and how to submit for a PIREP. Most likely a special form would have to be used where you enter your departure ICAO and arrival ICAO because it would be hard to match the flights up with flight numbers.
Thanks a million,
Jonny
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Sounds reasonably easy to implement if you are just talking about repair pilots flying to the airfield where the aircraft broke down.......but for the repair pilot to fly the broken plane back to the hub with a broken altimeter etc sounds rather unrealistic and dangerous :o
Personally i think that having the repair pilot fly to the destination airport and back would be good enough. Of course the plane used for the transport would depend on what kind of accident there has been. If there has been a crash then maybe a huge transport plane in the maintenance livery or if it's only a broken gauge then a helicopter or small plane bringing in the parts
So what do you guys think?
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I have seen this at some other VA's, so I have an idea of what it is you are talking about.
But are we talking about adding another division to the airline or what?
Is the flights surpose to be flown with a/c from the pressent fleet, or should they have there own fleet?
How will the flights be posted is it as special missions or..?
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Maybe implemenented into the cargo division...
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Perhaps I am not right, but I think in reality brakedowns are repaired by the local airports crew, and not the airlines own crew.
If we think over it, we could use a cargo plane, or search a scheduled flight to the destination and put the crew on that plane that heading there. So maybe a separate plane is not needed. But, if I think the most horrible failure probably an engine failure, then a BAE146 must be able to carry another one for any airplanes.
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Great Idea I think.;D;)
Wait, I am probably saying this because whilst taking off from EHAM in a 747 of Eurocargo, I was caught unaware by a giant cross wind, as i was blown to the side, so I corrected the slide and then, the aircraft was put off ballance and engine 1 was smashed up, oops:$ But I was past V1 and could not stop
I took off and then landed safley.
BTW,did i do right to turn off the engine.
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@Robert, we could use your Anotov you painted.
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Good idea Tim!
An An-124 could carry all the necessary equipment, spareparts and crew for repairing the aircraft. If I repaint an An-124 I repainted it to be an EuroCargo special livery.
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Or even better, an An 225. Now that woyuld look cool!:8
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I think the An-124 might be a good idea. It will be able to cover more or less all our flight destinations.
But will it be able to land and take-off from all of our destinations?
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Mabey for smaller airstrips with class 3 or below flights, we could use the Antonov Coaler.
I think any other destinations will be landable!
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Originally posted by Merlin
I think the An-124 might be a good idea. It will be able to cover more or less all our flight destinations.
But will it be able to land and take-off from all of our destinations?
You could parachute out the spare parts. ;D
Err...
IM BACK!!!!
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Perhaps you got something there, para-drop, might be worth thinking about. We could drop spare parts and the technicians. I know US Air Force have some kind of gadget for rescuing downed pilots out of a war zone, perhaps we should that when we are going to pick them up. ;D;D
I think it might be safer for the rest for the world if we didn't make any para-drops.
But I guess there is no question about that Tim is back.
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Para-drops sounds like a good idea! ;D
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I got an idea, the Antonov could land at a major airport and then a smaller airplane can land were it is needed.
ANd we could have a C-17, that can land at any place in the world. As long as its flat and has enough space.
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Is the C-17 a commercial cargo plane? :o sure it can land on any flat ground but isnt the helicoptor better at that? only that most of us can't fly it and it can't carry much cargo that's the problem...and of course it's much slower :P
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You mean the C-17 Globemaster? Is not it a USAF carrier? I think lets rather stay at the An-124.
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Well its with the RAF, and im sure it could be easly turned into a cargo a/c. kinda because it is ;)
And I was thinking it could be a smaller small the the Antonov. That linked of to smaller a/p's
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"The U.S. Air Force/Boeing C-17 Globemaster III is designed to fulfill airlift needs well into the next century - carrying large combat equipment and troops or humanitarian aid across international distances directly to small austere airfields anywhere in the world."
"Load:
- 102 troops/paratroops; 48 litter and 54 ambulatory patients and attendants;
- 170,900 pounds (77,519 kilograms) of cargo (18 pallet positions) "
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(http://www.boeing.com/companyoffices/gallery/images/c17/DVD-32-01.jpg)
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On the Boeing website there is a chapter about commercializing the C-17 as the BC-17 especially for freight operators and special charters.
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sorry about that "anonymous", hadn't seen i wasn't logged in
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Originally posted by SirRoberto
"The U.S. Air Force/Boeing C-17 Globemaster III is designed to fulfill airlift needs well into the next century - carrying large combat equipment and troops or humanitarian aid across international distances directly to small austere airfields anywhere in the world."
"Load:
- 102 troops/paratroops; 48 litter and 54 ambulatory patients and attendants;
- 170,900 pounds (77,519 kilograms) of cargo (18 pallet positions) "
So it kinda does carry somin,
We could always have the B-52 and bomb people with cargo?:]
Just imagine these bombs as cargo,
(http://www.boeing.com/defense-space/military/b52-strat/images/bombers_b52_0008.jpg)
Think off the possibiltys.
But seriously, lets think out side of the box as they say, thats how things become great!;);D
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Interesting idea Tim, not sure how the customers would feel, and think of the nearby residents...what will they think....
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Well......smart bombs are pretty accurate nowadays right? so why not fit our cargo boxes and pellets with these technologies (IR tracking, GPS etc) and drop them like bombs? ;) but of course we would have to design new impact proof cargo boxes..... :P
And say how about unmanned aircrafts to carry light loads to the planes in need of repairs?
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Bring back an old topic...
With the introduction of ProPilot and the amount of people crashing (my name not to that list ;D) What if we tried implementing this into the ProPilot system, my idea on it goes like this...
Well there are two things that split the process up, a crash or maintenance.
Crash
So for example Jonathan (Razza) is flying, he crashes ;D and the crash isn't so serve (the flight logger ranks the crash on differn't aspect and ranks it out of 10, 1 being not so bad and 10 being that the plane is signed off). Say the plane gets ranked 5 on its crash. This then pops up for the people who are trained in maintenance (pass a test or something). They then have to fly as soon as possible to fix the plane and get it back into the air. The time it takes for the plane to be fixed depends on how serve the crash was, seeing this was a level 5, it will take 1 day (maintenance in reall life can be very fast). The plane then fly's back to its base.
Maintenance
If the plane is at a base, this wont really matter, as it would easily be fixed being at a HUB. But if the plane is at its max amounts of hours and wouldn't be safe to fly back to a hub, maintenance wcould be reported and a pilot would have to fly in and make sure its up to scratch, time taken to check and repair would depend on the ware and tare of the plane.
On Duty
Choosing hours you can be on duty could be done by either a scheme of slots, or by a system were the person is logged on a notified about an incident.
-Slots
You would pick your hours that you can do and then if an incident happens you should be able to sort it out.
-Log-in system
This would be better as you would be able to it when you want.
Conclusion
Well I personally think this would be a rather cool addition to EHM, and we would have to sign off all those planes.;)
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Yes, i like the idea myself....
stop using me as an example, i never crash :]
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Sure... ;D