Post by: EHM-1465 Dominic on September 29, 2010, 02:53:01 pm
We're still going to keep you in the dark about some of the specifics (we're cruel like that :D) but if you'd like to try something completely new here at EHM, please sign up in this thread with your name and Pilot ID. We'll reserve you a plane and more details will appear very soon in the Events page listing ;)
Pilots registered so far:
| Euroharmony ID | Tail Number | Name |
| EHM-2387 | N10EW | Eric-Jan Oud |
| EHM-0654 | N11EW | Murray Crane |
| EHM-1997 | N12EW | Alexander Worton |
| EHM-2131 | N13EW | Bruce Thomas |
| EHM-2589 | N14EW | David Sifuentes |
| EHM-2463 | N15EW | Jonathan Davies |
| EHM-1829 | N16EW | Trevor Bolton |
| EHM-0975 | N17EW | Ragnar Frid |
| EHM-2625 | N18EW | Jason Davies |
| EHM-2097 | N19EW | Andrei Vatasescu |
| EHM-2583 | N20EW | Dan Moglia |
| EHM-1800 | N21EW | Franz Zeitelhofer |
| EHM-2155 | N22EW | Mariano De Ascencao |
| EHM-2585 | N23EW | Dan Hedges |
| EHM-1001 | N24EW | Robert Szikszo |
| EHM-1465 | N25EW | Dominic Mahon |
| EHM-1507 | N26EW | Manuel Zwikirsch |
| EHM-1442 | N27EW | Luis Nunes |
Tail numbers were assigned in the registration order, starting of course with Eric-Jan :)
Please post any necessary correction in this thread, including possible misspells, and we will update the table.
Post by: EHM-2387 Eric-Jan on September 29, 2010, 02:54:57 pm
Eric-Jan EHM-2387
Post by: EHM-1465 Dominic on September 29, 2010, 02:57:55 pm
You're first on the list, welcome aboard ;)
Post by: EHM-0654 Murray on September 29, 2010, 03:02:51 pm
Quote from: EHM-0654 Murray
...Sign me up for it too (whomever is in charge)...
posted September 28, 2010, 04:04:18 PM ;D
+1 from me, EHM-0654 Murray
Guess I'd best get X-Plane up and running properly.
Post by: EHM-1997 Alexander on September 29, 2010, 05:12:11 pm
Post by: EHM-2131 Bruce on September 29, 2010, 05:13:12 pm
Post by: EHM-2589 David on September 29, 2010, 11:00:24 pm
Post by: EHM-2463 Jonathan on September 30, 2010, 07:41:31 am
Sign me up please EHM-2463 Jonathan
Cheers
Post by: EHM-1829 Trevor on September 30, 2010, 10:21:21 am
Add me to the list - EHM-1829 Trevor
Thanks ;)
Post by: EHM-0975 Ragnar on October 01, 2010, 11:05:38 am
Post by: EHM-2625 Jason on October 01, 2010, 10:01:21 pm
Post by: EHM-2097 Andrei on October 02, 2010, 12:01:41 pm
Andrei
BTW - [ the event page (http://www.fly-euroharmony.com/site/events/WildLaunch/ongoing.html) ] is now online, check it for details!
Post by: EHM-1465 Dominic on October 02, 2010, 10:05:12 pm
Post by: EHM-2387 Eric-Jan on October 03, 2010, 07:45:21 am
Will the paint be available for the Aerosoft Twin Otter X too? 'Cause that's the one I'll be bringing along for the ride...
If not, is there a *.psd file (or another layered format that Photoshop eats) available that I could try to slap onto her?
Post by: EHM-1997 Alexander on October 03, 2010, 08:08:06 am
The Aerosoft one was spoken about (lovely model), but I don't know if any of the painters have it.
Wait for Robert or Stef to wake up today.
Post by: EHM-2589 David on October 03, 2010, 09:44:15 am
Thanks for your advice :)
Post by: EHM-2097 Andrei on October 03, 2010, 10:46:21 am
Between these two, the B1900D is closer.
But I wonder: could the Eurocargo Shorts be even closer? I think it's more STOL-like than the Beech, which the Twin Otter definitely is.
Andrei
Post by: EHM-2589 David on October 03, 2010, 11:51:35 am
Thanks again :)
Post by: EHM-2583 Dan on October 03, 2010, 03:32:53 pm
Dan Moglia - EHM-2583
Post by: EHM-0654 Murray on October 04, 2010, 02:54:35 pm
FS2004/FSX users just need to wait a little bit longer for their repaint.
Post by: EHM-0654 Murray on October 05, 2010, 09:34:10 am
| Leg | Departure | Destination | Hdg | Dist | Alt | Start | End | ||
| 1 | KELP | El Paso [Intl], TX, US | E98 | Los Lunas [Mid Valley Airpark], NM, US | 345 | 178.1 | 10,500 | 2010-10-15 | 2010-10-22 |
| 2 | E98 | Los Lunas [Mid Valley Airpark], NM, US | KFMN | Farmington [Four Corners Regional], NM, US | 320 | 139.1 | 12,500 | 2010-10-20 | 2010-10-27 |
| 3 | KFMN | Farmington [Four Corners Regional], NM, US | KCNY | Moab [Canyonlands Field], UT, US | 319 | 141.1 | 12,500 | 2010-10-25 | 2010-11-01 |
| 4 | KCNY | Moab [Canyonlands Field], UT, US | KPVU | Provo [Muni], UT, US | 303 | 126.0 | 14,500 | 2010-10-30 | 2010-11-06 |
| 5 | KPVU | Provo [Muni], UT, US | KPIH | Pocatello [Pocatello Regional], ID, US | 334 | 165.5 | 14,500 | 2010-11-05 | 2010-11-12 |
| 6 | KPIH | Pocatello [Pocatello Regional], ID, US | KSMN | Salmon [Lemhi County Airport], ID, US | 324 | 143.9 | 14,500 | 2010-11-10 | 2010-11-17 |
| 7 | KSMN | Salmon [Lemhi County Airport], ID, US | KTHM | Thompson Falls, MT, US | 325 | 158.2 | 14,500 | 2010-11-15 | 2010-11-22 |
| 8 | KTHM | Thompson Falls, MT, US | CYCG | Castlegar, BC, CA | 303 | 138.9 | 12,500 | 2010-11-20 | 2010-11-27 |
The same caveat I used on the TotD page stands for this event: just because the GPS-Direct data has been provided doesn't mean you want to use it. You'll miss out on so much by just hopping from A-to-B. Use Andrei's VFR routing for a far more interesting and instructive flight experience, and use the GPS-direct data just to ensure you're where you think you are.
I've also attached "source" files (in ODS and XLS formats) and a PDF as well. Share and enjoy...
Post by: EHM-0654 Murray on October 05, 2010, 02:37:02 pm
Trust me, though, it's like flying a helicopter on rails. Almost as forgiving as the DC-3, and a whole lot easier to take-off in - none of that tail-dragger forward pressure to get the tail up followed by light back pressure to get airborne.
Post by: EHM-2589 David on October 05, 2010, 04:11:50 pm
Post by: EHM-2387 Eric-Jan on October 05, 2010, 05:09:21 pm
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The same caveat I used on the TotD page stands for this event: just because the GPS-Direct data has been provided doesn't mean you want to use it. You'll miss out on so much by just hopping from A-to-B. Use Andrei's VFR routing for a far more interesting and instructive flight experience, and use the GPS-direct data just to ensure you're where you think you are.
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Plus, if you if you take the DCT route on leg one, you are bound to get shot out of the air over White Sands Missile range. Those guys over there use drones the size of these Otters to do live missile tests on (believe me, I've seen it IRL). Also on the west bank, there is a wildlife preserve that you are not supposed to fly over...
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Trust me, though, it's like flying a helicopter on rails. Almost as forgiving as the DC-3, and a whole lot easier to take-off in - none of that tail-dragger forward pressure to get the tail up followed by light back pressure to get airborne.
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So true!
see http://forum.ivao.aero/index.php/topic,106087.0.html (http://forum.ivao.aero/index.php/topic,106087.0.html) for some stunts I pulled some 1 1/2 year ago with the Twotter.
I'll see if I can dig up my base (white) paint for that (Aerosoft) one, and copy - paste the EHM paint on as well as that goes (once it is published). I just hope it still sits on my old computer, 'cause I could not find it on the new one...
Post by: EHM-2589 David on October 05, 2010, 08:12:06 pm
Post by: EHM-1800 Franz on October 06, 2010, 06:57:49 pm
Please sign me up !
Cheers and hope we can arrange some group flights !
See you son in the air !
Franz - EHM-1800
Post by: EHM-1829 Trevor on October 07, 2010, 06:19:42 pm
Very true Franz ;D ,and the more pilots the merrier.
From the 15th-18th i will be in Holland, but after that, the event schedule is fine for me.
I better start practising.
Post by: EHM-2155 Mariano on October 07, 2010, 09:59:54 pm
I'd like to fly with you guys but I haven't flown in so long that all you're saying looks like ancient greek to me.
Basically it's an online fly in with many legs?
I haven't done any event in PP so if you could help me a little bit...
Post by: EHM-2585 Dan on October 08, 2010, 09:58:32 am
Post by: EHM-2387 Eric-Jan on October 08, 2010, 10:10:12 am
Eek!
...
Hi Mariano,
have no fear of PP event flying :)
It is more or less the same as you are used to.
You get your "own" plane (that's why you need to sign up for it here), sitting in the first departure airport. You need to fly all legs using the PP system of booking, and registering / PIREPing with the EHM flight logger. All legs are to be flown within the given time period. Usually each flight is bookable for about a week, with some days overlap between adjacent flights. This is to allow for weekend-only flyers, as well as weekday-only flyers to complete the tour. If you show up late (after the indicated days you can fly the leg), then you cannot book the flight in the PP system anymore, and your tour ends there and then. If you crash your plane, there will no longer be a plane available for you to book ... => exit tour. So you do need to be careful with your plane ... Luckily, the Twin Otter is very forgiving, with enormous lift at low speeds already, and a sturdy under carriage. So you can almost stop in the air, before you touch down. And you will be up in the air unbelievably soon too. This means you will always have plenty of spare runway length. Just practice a couple of landings to get a feel for what it takes to get her safely on the ground, before you actually start to fly the tour, and you'll be OK.
Whether or not you fly the tour online is your own choice. And then it is also your choice to fly on IVAO or VATSIM networks too, of cause. It is a nice way of "meeting" fellow EHM-ers, so I tend to fly PP events on line, while I fly only about 1/3 of my remaining flights online. Because of the time limitations per flight, you usually get to recognise a sort of pattern of when people have their flying time during the week. So you usually get to meet up with more or less the same people each time you fly.
Oh, and I checked: White Sands Missile Range is inoperative in FSX (don't know about X-plane, though :P), so if you stray a bit, you'll be OK anyways
Cheers,
Eric-Jan
PS:
http://www.wsmr.army.mil/wsmr.asp (http://www.wsmr.army.mil/wsmr.asp) check out Trinity site... Maybe I'll be a bit naughty and do a fly-over :o
Post by: EHM-0654 Murray on October 08, 2010, 10:48:14 am
Post by: EHM-1465 Dominic on October 10, 2010, 09:08:38 am
Good news too - I've just uploaded the FS2004 and FSX versions of the aircraft to the server so if you click onto the Event page, you'll be able to download your very own plane to start practicing with :D
Post by: EHM-2589 David on October 10, 2010, 09:35:26 am
Post by: EHM-1001 Robert on October 10, 2010, 10:17:25 am
If there is one more plane left to grab, please, sign me up ;) Thx !
Post by: EHM-2589 David on October 10, 2010, 10:24:10 am
Post by: EHM-0654 Murray on October 10, 2010, 01:02:30 pm
Post by: EHM-2585 Dan on October 10, 2010, 07:01:19 pm
Post by: EHM-2387 Eric-Jan on October 10, 2010, 08:14:26 pm
Post by: EHM-1465 Dominic on October 10, 2010, 08:32:45 pm
Looking forward to seeing it :)
Post by: EHM-2155 Mariano on October 11, 2010, 09:41:33 am
Post by: EHM-2583 Dan on October 11, 2010, 01:04:00 pm
Having never flown an Event, let alone Pro-Pilot, I'm a little confused, so please pardon the dumb questions:
Events = Pro-pIlot System, right ? I have to log-in to Pro-Pilot System, that I've not done before, and go from there, right ? I've read the PP Manual......looks great; bit daunting; but I'll give it a shot if that's what I have to do ??
Next dumb question:
I've flown all of the Tours now except the Capitals of Europe Tour and the World Tour......just finished the European Air Shows Tour today ! All of the Tours have been great flights and a lot of fun to research and fly ! Anyway, I am preparing for the Capitals of Europe Tour and my question is:
Can I fly Capitals of Europe Tour flights in between the legs of the Wild Event flights ??
Thanks for your patience,
Cheers,
Dan
Post by: EHM-0975 Ragnar on October 11, 2010, 02:44:20 pm
I just took the WILD a/c for a spin in FSX around Bergen in Norway. Great little aircraft, when people talk about it being able to hover and then land, I'd say that description is spot-on. I did a terrible onfocused approach, came in way too high, virtually stopped the plane 500' above the runway threshold, descended and landed very softly less than halfway down the runway. Even I might be able to get this plane through the event, but then my PP record says something else. I think passengers would prefer to ride with some other pilot though. ;)
Looking forward to the event!
Post by: EHM-2589 David on October 11, 2010, 03:21:57 pm
Post by: EHM-2097 Andrei on October 11, 2010, 03:29:35 pm
Events = Pro-pIlot System, right ? I have to log-in to Pro-Pilot System, that I've not done before, and go from there, right ? I've read the PP Manual......looks great; bit daunting; but I'll give it a shot if that's what I have to do ??
Yes, you have :) Actually, if you do a couple of flights with the same aircraft to get the touch of it before the event, you are less vulnerable to the nastiest surprises (which also map to the nastiest penalties). That leaves less to worry about and more room for flying fun.
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Can I fly Capitals of Europe Tour flights in between the legs of the Wild Event flights ??
Yes, definitely. There is no constraint of flying all the legs of a tour in a row, without other flights in-between. So good luck with the tour and the event!
Andrei
Post by: EHM-2155 Mariano on October 11, 2010, 10:25:19 pm
Post by: EHM-1465 Dominic on October 12, 2010, 02:41:53 am
Post by: EHM-2131 Bruce on October 12, 2010, 11:11:32 am
Post by: EHM-1465 Dominic on October 12, 2010, 03:07:33 pm
Did you point the installer to the Main Flight Simulator 9 folder if it didn't find it automatically? As long as you install it there you should have no problems as all the gauges are in a Gauges folder so they all get put straight into the FS9 Gauges folder. I've tested it carefully so I know the installer works ;)
If you still have problems, just point the installer to a dummy location (such as C/Dummy Folder) and after installation there, just cut and paste all the contents of that folder into your main Flight Simulator 9 folder :)
Post by: EHM-2155 Mariano on October 12, 2010, 06:01:57 pm
Post by: EHM-1997 Alexander on October 12, 2010, 06:05:20 pm
I landed there months ago :P So as soon as I lock the flight, I'll be able to fly it?
Yup, after 24 hours your pp location is unlocked, this is because after that time you have entered 'travel mode'
Post by: EHM-2097 Andrei on October 12, 2010, 06:45:06 pm
To spice up things, let us say that for once we won't have aircraft dedicated to the event; every aircraft that you successfully fly to Castlegar will remain in the regular fleet, with the original tail number and the flight history that will show your achievment :)
Andrei
Post by: EHM-2131 Bruce on October 12, 2010, 08:10:09 pm
Post by: EHM-2155 Mariano on October 13, 2010, 08:12:01 am
I also took a couple of shots to commemorate the birth of this division and more or less my return to flying and flight simming :)
Post by: EHM-1465 Dominic on October 13, 2010, 06:00:24 pm
Some really nice pictures there - I particularly like number 4 ;)
Good tip about the generators too, definitely a thing to check before you take off, following the included kneeboard checklist should help ;D
@ Bruce - glad you've got it working now ;)
I've added myself to the list on page 1 - looks like I'd been missed off :'(
Post by: EHM-1507 Manuel on October 13, 2010, 07:46:57 pm
if it´s not too late to sign up for the event, I´d like to come back to the airline that way!
Kind regards
Manuel
Post by: EHM-1465 Dominic on October 13, 2010, 08:02:07 pm
Your plane is created and added to the first post in this thread ;)
Post by: EHM-0654 Murray on October 13, 2010, 08:26:44 pm
I did a terrible onfocused approach, came in way too high, virtually stopped the plane 500' above the runway threshold, descended and landed very softly less than halfway down the runway. Even I might be able to get this plane through the event, but then my PP record says something else.
Having just retouched the text of all the ProPilot penalties, and remembering that Ragnar's post was here, just thought I should remind everyone that it'll be ever so easy to exceed the G-loading and/or descent speed limits in this plane, so be careful out there ;)
Post by: EHM-2155 Mariano on October 14, 2010, 12:23:56 am
Post by: EHM-2589 David on October 14, 2010, 01:05:31 pm
there are three penalties:
11 Touchdown Vertical Speed more than 250 feet/min 220.00 You landed with a high rate of descent. Company operating procedures require pilots to land at less than 250 feet per minute.
12 Touchdown Vertical Speed more than 500 feet/min 400.00 You landed with an extremely high rate of descent. Company operating procedures require pilots to land at less than 250 feet per minute.
17 Maximum 4500 fpm Vertical Speed exceeded 240.00 Company operating procedures require a descent at no more than 4500 feet per minute vertical speed.
Good flights and see you in the event ;)
Post by: EHM-0654 Murray on October 14, 2010, 01:20:45 pm
What's the max v/speeds never to exceed? 2500?
And if it's the DHC-6 specific values you're after,
Post by: EHM-1465 Dominic on October 14, 2010, 07:36:39 pm
Post by: EHM-1465 Dominic on October 14, 2010, 10:21:33 pm
If you download the appropriate panel.cfg file from the two below (one for FS2004 and one for FSX) then paste it into your "ehmv4-wild-dhc6" plane's panel folder within the sim, you will find that several instruments have been improved or moved so that the 2D panel matches the VC better and that more functions are available from within the VC, such as TCAS within the FS2004 version.
The main installers will be updated shortly too ;)
Enjoy !
Post by: EHM-2589 David on October 15, 2010, 12:18:35 am
Post by: EHM-0975 Ragnar on October 15, 2010, 10:53:20 am
Hi Mariano if you see this link [url]http://www.fly-euroharmony.com/site/propilot/popups/popup_view_penalties_list.php[/url] ([url]http://www.fly-euroharmony.com/site/propilot/popups/popup_view_penalties_list.php[/url])
there are three penalties:
11 Touchdown Vertical Speed more than 250 feet/min 220.00 You landed with a high rate of descent. Company operating procedures require pilots to land at less than 250 feet per minute.
12 Touchdown Vertical Speed more than 500 feet/min 400.00 You landed with an extremely high rate of descent. Company operating procedures require pilots to land at less than 250 feet per minute.
17 Maximum 4500 fpm Vertical Speed exceeded 240.00 Company operating procedures require a descent at no more than 4500 feet per minute vertical speed.
What usually gets me though is the G-force penalties: :)
18 Maximum load factor (G) allowed 400.00 Company operating procedures require a maximum G loading of no more than 2.5 G.
19 Maximum load factor (G) allowed 500.00 Company operating procedures require a maximum G loading of no more than 2.5 G.
Good weather and forecast for El Paso today, just wait a few hours for the sun to go up and I'm off... ;D
Post by: EHM-1507 Manuel on October 15, 2010, 04:36:18 pm
No problem at all Manuel, welcome back :)
Your plane is created and added to the first post in this thread ;)
Hi Dom,
thanks very much. I can´t wait to start flying for EHM this weekend.
Post by: EHM-1442 Luis on October 15, 2010, 09:58:35 pm
If it is not too late, Sign me up please - EHM-1442 Luis
Cheers
Post by: EHM-1465 Dominic on October 15, 2010, 10:26:15 pm
Have fun!
Post by: EHM-2659 Manuel on April 02, 2011, 03:48:09 pm
EHM 2659 Manuel Sabater
Post by: EHM-2387 Eric-Jan on April 03, 2011, 08:06:16 am
PP events are fun! Everyone gets a certain window of time ( a couple of days, to maximum a week) in which to fly each leg. Also, each participant gets their "own" plane (tailnumber) to complete the event with. Be late, or crash your plane, and you are out of it. It's real fun to do, because you are bound to come across fellow EHM-ers on-line doing the same leg, and you can fly together :)
But I'm afraid you'll have to wait until the next event is announced. Usually there's one or two per year, so keep your ear too the ground ...