Post by: EHM-0654 Murray on October 16, 2010, 10:22:33 am
UPDATE: Rain cleared just before Rincon, but was all the way from ground to 10,500ft (my cruise)! Funnily enough, ASE says it's not raining anywhere near El Paso. :)
PIREP: First leg all done. As easy as when I did a practice run last weekend (easier in fact, at least I had AP control this time). X-Plane pilots are warned to watch out for balloons operating near E98, and deer running across the strip when you land ;)
UPDATE: Meant to post this on Saturday, and in much higher res, but I've had no end of problems uploading to the Gallery. I'll update to a higher res version once I get home tonight.
Here's a photo I took while flying the first leg of the WILD Division PP Event to let everyone see (most of) my current simpit. Going left to right: my HP laptop running Plan-G, my 22" Samsung showing X-Plane (transparent cockpit so I can see the ground somewhat, can't find how to raise the seat like you can in FS), and finally (one of) my 19" LG's which is running FLv4 (the version prior to the one you lucky people all now have access to). Now vertically down from my 22", my GoFlight panels (various controls mapped), my FDS MCP (so I can control the AP), and my yoke, with me all out of focus ;D
What's not visible from this shot, off to my right is my GoFlight throttle, my second 19" LG (the pair of them comprise my PFD when flying heavy iron, I was running Chrome on it when the shot was taken) and my FDS CDU (which was off entirely, as it was not needed :)).
Post by: EHM-1465 Dominic on October 16, 2010, 11:12:44 pm
Make sure to share updates and photos here as you go along ;)
Post by: EHM-1997 Alexander on October 16, 2010, 11:39:28 pm
Out with the g/f tomorrow - how long does leg1 take?
Post by: EHM-2625 Jason on October 17, 2010, 07:12:47 am
Out with the g/f tomorrow - how long does leg1 take?
Took me about 83 minutes, but that was flying low following the valleys ;D
Bring on leg 2
Post by: EHM-2463 Jonathan on October 17, 2010, 08:28:51 am
Just noticed something strange, I completed the first leg yesterday and landed successfully with no penalties but I am now showing a 50 point penalty in the pro pilot summary page but not on My Flights history. Any ideas ?
Post by: EHM-0654 Murray on October 17, 2010, 09:47:47 am
Since those of you that weren't part of the private beta won't know this yet: in FLv4 (as it exists in the public beta), when you complete a PP flight sucessfully, you score 50 points (added directly to your FAC). If you crash (and only if you crash) you get 0 points added to your FAC.
Post by: EHM-2463 Jonathan on October 17, 2010, 02:21:17 pm
Nope, I was using the old flogger, but any bonus is gratefully received!
Post by: EHM-0654 Murray on October 17, 2010, 03:27:00 pm
Hi Murray,
Nope, I was using the old flogger, but any bonus is gratefully received!
How bizarre... Best I can remember (I was in there not that long ago) there are no penalties that "cost" 50... I'll just go and check again. It's impossible that old FLogger is getting the new FLogger complete PP flight bonus.
Post by: EHM-1442 Luis on October 17, 2010, 05:04:35 pm
Some shots from Leg01
Departing from El Paso
(http://i233.photobucket.com/albums/ee6/Filipe974/EHM_Wild/Capturar_El_Paso_01.jpg)
Near Truth or Consequences, nice name for a Town, and next town is Socorro ( that means Help)
(http://i233.photobucket.com/albums/ee6/Filipe974/EHM_Wild/Near_Truth_or_Consequence_02.jpg)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Truth_or_Consequences,_New_Mexico (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Truth_or_Consequences,_New_Mexico)
On destination airfield
(http://i233.photobucket.com/albums/ee6/Filipe974/EHM_Wild/E98_01.jpg)
Cheers
Post by: EHM-1465 Dominic on October 18, 2010, 03:43:28 am
Post by: EHM-0654 Murray on October 18, 2010, 12:08:34 pm
Very nice pictures Luis. Is that default or add-on scenery there? I hope to have some screen shots of my own once I get a little more settled in X-Plane.
Post by: EHM-2585 Dan on October 18, 2010, 04:08:33 pm
(http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_t-zjGO3EZ-Y/TLxiuRiNADI/AAAAAAAAAGU/uzG1rK8SANA/s1600/2010-10-15_11-10-14-109.BMP)
Post by: EHM-2387 Eric-Jan on October 19, 2010, 12:09:00 am
Take off rwy 26L KELP
(http://img267.imageshack.us/img267/6391/2010oct18001.jpg)
Mid Valley in sight!
(http://img408.imageshack.us/img408/8441/2010oct18022.jpg)
On blocks:
(http://img714.imageshack.us/img714/1901/2010oct18024.jpg)
As you can see, most of the paint is already slapped on in more or less the right place. It's those last 20% that make the work, eh?
Well, at least I now know which parts of the paintkit to paint hehehe...
Post by: EHM-1465 Dominic on October 19, 2010, 01:03:00 am
Here's a couple of my own FS9 pictures for the first leg:-
Post by: EHM-2155 Mariano on October 19, 2010, 07:26:44 am
Yesterday afternoon, Trevor (EHM-1829) and I (EHM-2155) met up in KELP on IVAO, and got it under way to fly our first flight together.
It got off to a rough start since I didn't remember much about flying online, luckily everything got sorted out in time to find out one of my engines would not start up. That set us back 10 minutes as I looked for the cause, which I didn't find, so I reloaded the plane and it worked. Both engines running we taxied and took off.
As I have nearly no experience flying VFR, I suggested we flew to the TCS and then ONM VORs, ran smoothly, seen some good sights although most of it being a desert.
Nearing landing, Trevor went in first while I held at about 20 miles away, above WUBBY, as his first attempt was thwarted by some throttle control problems. On his second run he reported having to cut off the engines totally to get the Otter to come down :D
Soon after I turned in to the airfield and with a semi foggy visual on it, went in over the trees almost hitting several of them on my way. I came down like a meteor and didn't know when I had touched down because the plane sits so high up and the runway is so thin, it's tricky. I am fairly sure my front wheel touched down before the other two. I need some practice ;D
After landing, the worst part of the flight was the fact Trevor's FLogger said it didn't get enough information to submit the flight. This might have been caused by him shutting his engines down mid flight? Rotten luck there as he will have to fly the leg again.
All in all it was a really fun experience.
The next leg is friday and if anyone else wants to join us in IVAO, they're very welcome.
Also, it was a good first experience with the new Flight Logger... worked perfectly.
Here are the photos:
Sitting on the tarmac doing our pre-flight checks, and taxi:
Trying to do some formation flying, I got a bit throttle happy and left Trevor behind for a while.
But eventually he caught up
Trevor starts his descent towards E98.
Finally sitting on the tarmac
Here's the flight map:
Post by: EHM-2387 Eric-Jan on October 19, 2010, 08:14:12 am
Great shots, and a nice repetitive holding pattern for someone who claims to be a bit rusty when it comes to flying 8)
Post by: EHM-2589 David on October 19, 2010, 01:06:55 pm
Quote
The next leg is friday and if anyone else wants to join us in IVAO, they're very welcomeMaybe me a what UTC time? if I could. By the way very nice shots ;)
Post by: EHM-1829 Trevor on October 21, 2010, 07:30:20 pm
Hi folks
I am planning to fly leg 2 tomorrow (Friday) about 19:00z; (IVAO)
Hope to see you there. ;)
Cheers
T
Post by: EHM-2589 David on October 21, 2010, 07:42:32 pm
Post by: EHM-1997 Alexander on October 21, 2010, 07:52:05 pm
Post by: EHM-2387 Eric-Jan on October 21, 2010, 08:19:35 pm
Maybe next week?
Post by: EHM-2625 Jason on October 21, 2010, 09:53:45 pm
EDIT
Forgot to mention - FS2004 with FS Global 2010 terrain mesh
Moderator: Just for comparison with Jonathan below:
Post by: EHM-2463 Jonathan on October 22, 2010, 07:36:27 am
Over Albuquerque
Post by: EHM-0654 Murray on October 22, 2010, 06:27:35 pm
Post by: EHM-1829 Trevor on October 22, 2010, 06:41:57 pm
Thanks Murray, much appreciated ;D
Post by: EHM-0654 Murray on October 23, 2010, 09:02:53 am
Here's a question for our X-Plane expert: I'm happily flying along, at cruise, when all of a sudden a small "tire blown!" pop-up appears on screen. Given I thought I had everything on "no failures", I hit the reset to fix button and it went away. Where did I go wrong?
Post by: EHM-1997 Alexander on October 23, 2010, 09:14:33 am
The failure system has two layers, individual setting for each system as well as the mean time to failures on the front page.
Set the number insanely high or untick "use mean time between failures random failures" this setting works in addition to each individual setting.
These are in aircraft->Equipment failures
I personally leave this setting ticked with 10,000 hours mean time. I get an occasional then.
You can also remap reset all to operational as a joystick button for insta-repair ;)
Post by: EHM-2155 Mariano on October 23, 2010, 10:21:48 am
E98 to KFMN
As with Leg 1, Trevor suggested we met up at around 1800z in IVAO at the departure airport, so I started my flight planning earlier, took a shower to freshen myself up and got everything set and ready to go when... I get a PM from Trevor saying his virtual self was stuck somewhere else for 24 hours in travel mode :D
So it looked like the leg had to be postponed for Saturday, but along came a wizard called Murray, who teleported Trevor to E98, so at about 1900z we were starting our engines up and ready to go.
This time I took the lead and suggested we took a more scenic route instead of going from VOR to VOR, and off we went from runway 36
As we climbed and turned north-east I realized I was gonna fly over KABQ airspace so had to go around it, while Trevor climbed some miles behind. Skies were calm and open, visibility was good, seemed like a good day for flying.
Onwards, over Albuquerque and around a couple of mountains nearby, we dropped down a little to do some bush flying as we should. The GPWS was going crazy and I was going to turn it off, though I thought I might need it later and I knew I'd forget to turn it back on. The same way I forgot to turn my transponder on up until this point of the flight. :-X
Continued north flying close to the mountains, through the valleys, indulging in a bit of formation flying cos it's always good fun.
When Trevor reported an engine fire. While troubleshooting his problem he fell back a bit, but after all it turned out to be an unintended press of the I key which turns on the "Smoke system"... in this plane, a huge trail of smoke behind it, which is enough to scare the hell out of any pilot.
Back to normal flying conditions he quickly caught up.
Onwards with our flight it was time to turn west through the mountains, over Abiquiu Reservoir, I decided to go down for a look and because of the weird visibility with the plane's panel, almost a splash.
As you can see there were a considerable amount of clouds ahead, which brought some light drizzle and a bit of turbulence along, so we canceled our visit to El Vado reservoir and headed west directly to the airfield. I veered a little too much to the west (when should have been going west-northwest) because for the life of me I couldn't find the VOR gauge in the panel. Thank goodness for GPS.
Started my descent some 10 miles out, after all wasn't flying that high, but it was a struggle all the way down with the pitch trim and the flaps. It seems that when flaps are deployed and you advance the throttle slightly, the aircraft pitches down violently and this almost made me eat trees a couple of times.
Right over the runway it refused to come down so I bounced over the tarmac like a skipped rock on a lake. It was one scary landing I thought my plane would not walk out of, I guess it has really strong struts.
I need more practice with this one and I'll be sure to get some before the next leg, but in truth I think there's something slightly off with it's flight dynamics somewhere.
Trevor came down after me, waved me hello while I taxied and he landed.
Parked our planes near the petrol pumps ;D and that was the end of another fun flight. Franz came online at about this time and started his flight... I think he wanted to fly with us but there was a bit of miss communication on the times there...
For leg 3 we should arrange a time and day with some 2 days of notice or so. The more the merrier :D
Post by: EHM-0654 Murray on October 23, 2010, 11:01:44 am
Post by: EHM-1997 Alexander on October 23, 2010, 11:23:35 am
Settings -> Operations and Warnings
tick "start each flight on ramp"
Also when selecting the airport you can click on the runway or ramp location of your choice.
Post by: EHM-0654 Murray on October 23, 2010, 11:52:13 am
That's all set now, and I've turned up my rendering settings a chunk as well, so I may redo some of the previous screenshots under the new circumstances (depending how visible Rio Chama is now...)
Post by: EHM-0975 Ragnar on October 23, 2010, 12:32:00 pm
Pictures:
1 Climbout from KELP in the early morning hours
2 Quite bland scenery over the first mountain ridge
3 I had a plan laid out, only to say 'what the heck', and follow this great navaid (also known as the I25)
4 I told you no passengers would want to ride with me. I circled and tried to land smoothly for about an hour, this is from one of the attempts when I was starting to get seriously bored. I did several really good AP aided approaches (for being me), but every time i got within a few hundred feet from the ground the plane just went up, up and away... Probably because of me playing with the ActiveSky settings for terrain based draft and max up-/downdraft....
I ended up smacking her onto the runway, with a G-force penalty as result - but on the runway and not a crash, which I was happy with at that point.
5 Looks like I'm not flying leg 2 today... Wonder if it'll get better when the sun rises.
Post by: EHM-1829 Trevor on October 23, 2010, 12:51:15 pm
I enjoyed the flight last night,and find it a far better experience with other pilots to talk and fly with.
Saying that, I have to apologise to Franz and David for messing up the start time; :-[ i blame night shift, overenthusiasim and the wife, as she is not here at the moment to defend herself. ;)
The one and only downside of having pilots to talk to in-flight is the unintentional key-press, while using the text box; it gets me into all sorts of bother, and with smoke belching out the starboard engine I thought “here we go again” ;D
Regarding Mariano’s statement on flight dynamics, I have to agree, as 50% of my landings using the DHC-6 reminds me of the 1000m hurdles.
Thanks again Murray for sorting my booking.
Cheers
T
Post by: EHM-1997 Alexander on October 23, 2010, 01:21:37 pm
Texture res: Very High
Forest density: Tree Hugger
World Distance: high
Number of objects: Mega Tons
number of roads: Totally insane!
Post by: EHM-0654 Murray on October 23, 2010, 02:03:19 pm
Head West out of Farmington following R-64.
At Shiprock R-64 (East-West) meets R-491 (North-South), head North following R-491.
As you pass KCEZ (Cortez Municipal), continue following R-491 North (ish, it bends a point or two West of North just outside Cortez).
At Monticello R-491 (East-West) meets R-191 (North-South), head North following R-191.
Keep following R-191, it waggles a bit on the way up to Moab, but it passes KCNY where you are heading.
@Alex - thanks for listing your render settings, I'll give them a go and see how it behaves (I have an "older" ATI graphic card...)
@All you FS9/FSX pilots - something you can't see from my at KFMN shot is the pronounced slope to rwy 23 in X-Plane (it looks somewhat like a hill on approach). If you think landing the DHC-6 is tough on a pancake-flat runway, try it on a runway that's coming up to meet you coming down.
Post by: EHM-2155 Mariano on October 23, 2010, 03:33:19 pm
@Alexander are those X-Plane shots or FSX?
Post by: EHM-1997 Alexander on October 23, 2010, 03:42:52 pm
@Mariano - Those are x-plane 9 shots. The x-plane repaint is slightly different to the MSFS one, as I think Robert updated the design while I was painting it. The x-plane model has a stripe on the engines and arrows on the wings, whereas the MSFS model has the arrows on the engine.
Post by: EHM-0654 Murray on October 23, 2010, 04:28:10 pm
@Murray - I have a 4870x2, but only half is utilised by x-plane (no catalyst)
4850 myself, it's the longest card I could fit into my Shuttle case. Plus I'm water cooled, so even more restriction...
Post by: EHM-2387 Eric-Jan on October 23, 2010, 07:38:38 pm
...Yes, she can be a handful to land with all that lift. You need to find a nice balance at low speed, descending at about 500 ft/min, while aiming for roughly the start of the runway. Then,close the throttle over the threshold, and try to keep the same altitude. That way you will slow down to near stall speed, and you wil inevitably start sinking to the runway.
I did several really good AP aided approaches (for being me), but every time i got within a few hundred feet from the ground the plane just went up, up and away... Probably because of me playing with the ActiveSky settings for terrain based draft and max up-/downdraft.
...
In the picture, you are definitely high on your approach. You may be able to touch down in the end field, but I wouldn't bet on it!
...
The one and only downside of having pilots to talk to in-flight is the unintentional key-press, while using the text box; it gets me into all sorts of bother, and with smoke belching out the starboard engine I thought “here we go again” ;D
...
Maybe next time we could use the chatroom of EHM, or open up a TeamSpeak channel.
About next time: I will be back home on thursday, with a couple of social calls to make that day, so I expect my leg 3 to be on Friday evening, around 1900(Z)-ish.
Here's some of my leg 2:
Take off rwy36
The canyonland area is famous for it's reddish rock. We're getting closer!
Had to swerve around some clouds to remain VMC
A little aligning and colour correction to do in order to finish the Aerosoft paint. Also the blue/gold rear fuselage section will get a complete re-do.
On finals rwy23 KFMN. I had to go around, because I came in too slow, overcompensated with throttle, and yawed off to the right because of that. This one ended up all right, though :)
See y'all up there!
E-J
Post by: EHM-0654 Murray on October 23, 2010, 08:58:31 pm
Post by: EHM-1442 Luis on October 24, 2010, 12:45:48 am
Nice leg, chating all the way with Trevor, until fsx crash but i was on the new Flight Logger and it worked very well, recorded and resume the all flight without problems....congratulations for this nice piece of software.
The old Flight Logger didn't reconize the locked flight.
@ Murray
I upgraded last week to Windows 7 64 bits
CPU - Q9550 @ 2.83GHZ
RAM - 4 GB
Video card - Nvidia 8800GTS
FSX + Acceleration with config slides almost all to rhe right side
Scenary - Default
Leg 02 - Photo Report
On E98 on the preflight job
(http://i233.photobucket.com/albums/ee6/Filipe974/EHM_Wild/Capturar_E98_3.jpg)
Following Rio Grande, Albuquerque on the right side
(http://i233.photobucket.com/albums/ee6/Filipe974/EHM_Wild/Capturar_02_KABQ.jpg)
Near Santa Fé
(http://i233.photobucket.com/albums/ee6/Filipe974/EHM_Wild/Capturar_02_STFe.jpg)
Abiquiu Lake
(http://i233.photobucket.com/albums/ee6/Filipe974/EHM_Wild/Capturar_02_ChamaRiver_Adjusted.jpg)
From Abiquiu to El Valdo
(http://i233.photobucket.com/albums/ee6/Filipe974/EHM_Wild/Capturar_02_ChamaRiver2.jpg)
El Valdo Lake
(http://i233.photobucket.com/albums/ee6/Filipe974/EHM_Wild/Capturar_02_ElValo2.jpg)
San Juan River - After FSX Crash
(http://i233.photobucket.com/albums/ee6/Filipe974/EHM_Wild/Capturar_02_SanJuan01.jpg)
On Final
(http://i233.photobucket.com/albums/ee6/Filipe974/EHM_Wild/Capturar_02_OnFinal_KFMN.jpg)
Some rain spray at KFMN park .... Special effect to Trevor....... ;D
(http://i233.photobucket.com/albums/ee6/Filipe974/EHM_Wild/Capturar_02_KFMN.jpg)
Cheers
Post by: EHM-0654 Murray on October 24, 2010, 12:31:50 pm
(BTW, check your PM's ;))
Post by: EHM-1829 Trevor on October 24, 2010, 02:36:53 pm
Nice pic’s Luis, and yes the default scenery has improved a lot.
It was great to see Flight Logger 4 doing its job, after your FSX crash. Congratz to the MT ;)
Cheers
T
Post by: EHM-1442 Luis on October 31, 2010, 11:03:42 am
Leg 3 - Flight with Trevor
A lot of crashes - Energy power crash(Heavy ThunderStorm here) - fsx crash - ivap crash - Logger crash - etc - but i finished the leg, the Flv4 didn't record the final part( crashes everywhere) and i repeted it DCT this morning.
Leaving KFMN
(http://i233.photobucket.com/albums/ee6/Filipe974/EHM_Wild/Leg03_KFMN.jpg)
Trevor Taxiing @KFMN and a close-up from the great texture work from Eric-Jan
(http://i233.photobucket.com/albums/ee6/Filipe974/EHM_Wild/Leg03_Taxi_Trevor.jpg)
Ship Rock
(http://i233.photobucket.com/albums/ee6/Filipe974/EHM_Wild/ShipRock_01.jpg)
Lake Powell and Colorado River
(http://i233.photobucket.com/albums/ee6/Filipe974/EHM_Wild/Leg03_LakePowell_ColoradoRiver.jpg)
Cheers
Post by: EHM-1997 Alexander on October 31, 2010, 11:30:37 am
A lot of crashes - Energy power crash(Heavy ThunderStorm here)
You may want to consider purchasing a UPS. That will protect you from surge and brown outs, as well as black outs for X minutes until the power comes back.
Post by: EHM-1442 Luis on October 31, 2010, 04:13:27 pm
There 'll be my next purchase. a new and stronger unit.
Cheers
Post by: EHM-2387 Eric-Jan on October 31, 2010, 07:43:37 pm
...
Trevor Taxiing @KFMN and a close-up from the great texture work from Eric-Jan
...
Thanks mate!
By now, I have moved the "Wolverine" from the door forward where it is supposed to be, and I re-did the whole gold-and-blue fan-out bit on the rear section of the fuselage.
I think it's pretty much done now, so I'll need someone else to test if the paint also works under FS9. Any volunteers with the Aerosoft Twotter for FS9 ??...
Please leave a PM, and I'll get back to you.
Luis, check you PM too ;)
Post by: EHM-2097 Andrei on October 31, 2010, 07:46:11 pm
I also prudly report my first really good landing with X-Plane (is it me or it's really slightly more difficult than with MSFS?), but then I got a surprise.
Provo airport apparently has a large apron BUT you can't tell it from an orchard. Concrete-paved but with trees everywhere! I have a shade of a doubt that the airport really looks this way :) However it is weird, no tree was on an obviously wrong spot (on the taxi yellow line, for instance), it really looks like it's done on purpose to leave SOME space for the taxiing / parked aircraft.
So be careful, I don't know - yet - how large the "virtual tree" is in X-Plane. Personally I took no chance and stopped on the taxiway.
Andrei
Post by: EHM-1997 Alexander on October 31, 2010, 08:48:45 pm
I have seen images of overgrown airfields ;) Lthough never seen it in sim myself.
the fix:
Quote
If you have that problem in x-plane again make a new scenery package in overlay editor. Go to the airport where you had the problem and put an exclusion zone around the airport of trees.
(http://forums.x-pilot.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=1260.0;attach=2541;image)
Post by: EHM-1465 Dominic on November 01, 2010, 12:10:47 am
Any volunteers with the Aerosoft Twotter for FS9 ??...
I thought the Aerosoft Twotter was FSX only ??? Otherwise I'd have bought it by now :D
Post by: EHM-2387 Eric-Jan on November 01, 2010, 09:16:38 am
But no, you are right. No FS9 Twotter.
So I guess I'll just fine-polish the present paint, shoot a bunch of pictures, and then send it in to you, Dominic, for approval and making it available through the download section then, eh?
Post by: EHM-1465 Dominic on November 01, 2010, 08:03:21 pm
Post by: EHM-2387 Eric-Jan on November 02, 2010, 08:37:51 am
Meanwhile, some flying has been done too ::)
Yesterday I flew leg 4, KCNY-KPVU.
I started at around 2000Z, but I had forgotten to lock the flight and to start the logger ... Duh :-[
So I returned to KCNY (I was only 15 mins out when I realised there was something missing).
Ready for pushback (the first time)
Rear fuselage paint has improved already :)
As per request: the center console during cruise:
Props = 77%
Mixture = 99%
Alt 9500 (1028mb)
results in:
N1 = 93% (see picture)
V = 145 KIAS
After returning to KNCY, Trevor popped up on (or just aside ;) ) the apron. So after a couple of connection issues, we got to fly together, which is a lot more fun. Less scenery looking, though, but more chatting about all things, great and small...
Just past Price, ready to cross the first Rockies pass:
The inset shows a spot view from his plane towards mine. I am just passed those reddish rocks.
Lake Utah in sight. Provo is on the east bank of the lake, so after the pass only one more turn for a direct rwy36.
Both parked @ KPVU
Thanks, Trevor, for your pleasant company!
Taking up the scenery a bit. I love those mountains. Think I'll cross that valley off to the right, and take an easterly route for the next leg.
See y'all up there!
Eric-Jan
Post by: EHM-1442 Luis on November 02, 2010, 12:48:43 pm
Leg 04
Storm near Price
(http://i233.photobucket.com/albums/ee6/Filipe974/EHM_Wild/Leg04_Storm.jpg)
Follwing the railway to Lake Utah
(http://i233.photobucket.com/albums/ee6/Filipe974/EHM_Wild/Leg04_RailwayAfterPrice01.jpg)
Descending to Provo
(http://i233.photobucket.com/albums/ee6/Filipe974/EHM_Wild/Leg04_DescProvo.jpg)
Approaching runway @Provo
(http://i233.photobucket.com/albums/ee6/Filipe974/EHM_Wild/Leg04_AppProvo.jpg)
Cheers
Post by: EHM-2387 Eric-Jan on November 09, 2010, 09:34:37 pm
http://www.fly-euroharmony.com/forum/index.php/topic,6169.msg47070.html#new (http://www.fly-euroharmony.com/forum/index.php/topic,6169.msg47070.html#new)
I'll try to remember next time ;)
Post by: EHM-2463 Jonathan on November 13, 2010, 02:11:29 pm
Post by: EHM-1442 Luis on November 14, 2010, 12:47:04 pm
Leg 6 Pocatello Regional (KPIH) to Salmon-Lemhi (KSMN)
Climbing on Pocatello Regional
(http://i233.photobucket.com/albums/ee6/Filipe974/EHM_Wild/PocatelloRegional.jpg)
Near Leadore
(http://i233.photobucket.com/albums/ee6/Filipe974/EHM_Wild/NearLeadore.jpg)
Final at Salmon-Lemhi (KSMN)
(http://i233.photobucket.com/albums/ee6/Filipe974/EHM_Wild/Salmon-LemhiKSMN_04.jpg)
Cheers
Post by: EHM-2585 Dan on November 20, 2010, 12:55:52 pm
Post by: EHM-2585 Dan on November 20, 2010, 03:05:26 pm
Post by: EHM-2387 Eric-Jan on November 21, 2010, 03:26:12 pm
I'm still stuck in Salmon-Lemhi myself, with only tomorrow as an option to fly out of there. I hope to join you in the celebrations on Wednesday, after my last leg... [fingers crossed].
You have fun out there, and keep some cold ones ready for me ;D
E-J
Post by: EHM-1829 Trevor on November 21, 2010, 04:51:48 pm
Hi Folks
A wee bit short notice. :-[
Anyone wishing to fly leg7 of the event at 17:00z-18:00z this evening, be our guest.
Cheers
Trevor
Post by: EHM-1442 Luis on November 21, 2010, 05:21:06 pm
Leg 07 - Salmon-Lemhi (KSMN) to Thompson Falls (KTHM)
The visibility was very poor all the way
Thompson Falls final
On the runway
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Why the thumbnails are not here? - because you're using the wrong links from the Gallery Luis ;D [Murray]
Thank you President Murray . I'm always learning something new. ;D
Cheers
Post by: EHM-0654 Murray on November 21, 2010, 05:24:05 pm
Post by: EHM-1507 Manuel on November 21, 2010, 05:52:25 pm
The last leg was very snowy but visibility was ok.
I´m a little bit sad, it´s over because it was great fun to fly the Otter again.
Post by: EHM-2387 Eric-Jan on November 21, 2010, 06:30:49 pm
Just to warn you all who've not yet flown the last leg (and I'm in the same boat) the US weather service for MSO (Missoula) is suggesting that today (now, in actual fact) might be the last time you'll be able to get out before Friday of next week due to snow (60% chance of snow tonight [Mountain Time] rising to 90% chance on Monday, then staying snowy and windy until Thursday/Friday)Great!
I'll be grabbling my way along the valleys for leg 7 and 8 then ;D
Low, slow, and blind ;)
Post by: EHM-2387 Eric-Jan on November 22, 2010, 11:41:45 pm
We traveled together this evening. Take off was nice enough weather, Landing was a whole different story. More on that tomorrow, today I only have a take-off shot to share:
[Limit reached]With Mariano taking off right after me.
As I said: more tomorrow (gotta get me some sleep too, you know ;))
E-J
Post by: EHM-2387 Eric-Jan on November 23, 2010, 06:53:19 am
Mariano had an FS crash some 5 nm out from KTHM, so he had to re-fly the leg :(
[Limit reached]Look like he came in just in time, the second attempt ... 23:56 on the last day ;D
Here we are, on the apron, ready for startup.
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M. had some FS issues, and I had just loaded my FS-Passengers, so while he restarted his FS, I took a slooowww taxi to rwy 17 (At Provo, the pax did not like that they had to sit on board for 45 mins before taxi)
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During my taxi, M. came back online, and started up quickly
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Today was all about following rivers
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And then it became hazy
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Flying in formation is fun! TCAS is going WILD here :)
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Some truely nice valley flying!
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And then the weather really hit us...
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So we climbed to a safer level, and thought up a strategy on how to get down to KTHM. I opted for the GPS in landscape mode, follow the river, and look vertically down until the ground would become visible.
The sensible thing to do would be to return and divert, but this is the last day for this leg, so... on we go!
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Then things got a bit too hectic for screenshots ...
Luckily, I had the recorder on:
EHW leg07 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-LYe2UQwtew#ws)
Now I've got two days to repair my bird. Wednesday is the final leg for me.
See y'all up there!
Eric-Jan
Post by: EHM-0654 Murray on November 23, 2010, 12:10:20 pm
Thompson Falls even has a decently long runway, you could have let it scrub speed a little longer... Just wait 'til you get to Castlegar
FYI, for METAR you should read MSO/KMSO for KTHM METAR; CYCG has it's own station.
Post by: EHM-2387 Eric-Jan on November 23, 2010, 01:46:27 pm
All those downdrafts ... brrr!!
TBH I was too late with my flare, indeed. Radio altimeter should read between 20 and 30 ft when you keep level, but this time I bounced up before I knew it. Nice that FSPassengers adds the blown tire with sparks, and later sirens to the event, but that was not recorded by FS recorder, so you guys don't get to see that in the movie.
Well, I was glad I even made it to the runway ;). Playing back the recording with calm and clear weather, my route seems like I'm drunk and most of all: it seems very dangerous :o. Almost flew into a stone wall three times!
Let's see what the last leg will bring...
Post by: EHM-2155 Mariano on November 23, 2010, 08:58:27 pm
I hope things go smoother tomorrow for the last leg...
Screenshots and short descriptions:
[Limit reached]E-J takes off, while I hold short. I then did a STOL from this point, but honestly, this thing can climb with 200 feet of runway :D
[Limit reached]Climbing, turning right to avoid the mountain right in front of the air strip, leaving it behind to head north and to chase E-J.
[Limit reached]Climbed to over 9,000 ft but then decided to drop back down to 6,500 because I couldn't see a thing.
[Limit reached]The ground scenery, roads and rivers were remarkably accurate on this leg so I could follow the river as well as him in FSX.
[Limit reached][Limit reached]Finally I realized I had been flying with flaps 10, and then I retracted them so I caught up with E-J for a bit of formation flying and TCAS alarms going off.
On approach, we were following the valleys to reach the airport, but soon enough the visibility became close to nothing at the very same time my GPWS said "twenty five hundred" so I went into panic mode, set the AP to 9,500 climbing at 1,500 fpm with full throttle.
After peeing my pants I wondered how would we land on this. E-J reported having some visibility below 3,500 but I had none at all.
Then my FS crashed and I went to have dinner and relax before I hit everything with a hammer :P
Flew the leg offline and with the least amount of programs turned on. Fsim and FLogger... my net didn't go down... landed, submitted the PIREP, and then relaxed. Job done
See you all tomorrow, whoever is coming for the last leg online mega fly in event of the century ;D
Post by: EHM-1465 Dominic on November 23, 2010, 10:39:34 pm
Post by: EHM-2387 Eric-Jan on November 25, 2010, 11:58:12 am
After a couple of lock-ups of my FS, I restarted my PC entirely, and then FSX would start as normal again. So some 45 minutes late (sorry Mariano) I arrived at the apron of Thomson Falls airport, KTHM.
Mariano was already sitting there, but a touch north in the trees for me, looking from FSX. I was on the edge of the rwy in his FS9 :)
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We were "late" already, and although there were still 5 Twotters parked in KTHM, we soon decided to take off with just the two of us. No-one had locked a flight from KTHM yet, so off we went.
A bit of fog when we took off
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But soon that cleared away,
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Only to come back again ;)
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I took a wrong turn, and had to climb over some hills to re-join Mariano, northbound from lake Pend Oreille
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Turning south-west over Kootenay Lake. Mariano had by then had an FS crash, so he decided to wait for me at Castlegar. Meanwhile, Bruce (Thomas) arrived at CYCG, and David (Sifuntes) caught up with me from behind. So it was a busy ending after all :)
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Negotiating the west arm was pretty easy in this kind of weather.
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CYCG, however, lies hidden behind a mountain, and comes into view only on 2nm final when approaching from this side. So I came in a bit high, and had a difficult time descending in time. After a long flare, I managed to put her on the tarmac with some 200ft/min, so all in all not too bad. The Twotter can easily handle this.
Parked next to Mariano, with David landing in the background
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And there we are, all three of us @ Castlegar
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A big THANK YOU to the EHM staff for organising this event, and for introducing bush flying to the VA. I have enjoyed myself immensely, and can't wait for another one ;)
I would also like to thank all the fellow EHM-ers that I have had the pleasure of flying with. That makes the experience so much better!
Cheers,
Eric-Jan
Post by: EHM-2589 David on November 25, 2010, 12:11:21 pm
Thanks a lot EHM :D
Post by: EHM-1829 Trevor on November 26, 2010, 12:45:42 am
Due to my work times I will have to fly the last leg to-day about 11:00z-12:00z
or tomorrow,(Saturday) but that would be a tad risky being the last day.
Hope to see someone on line.
Regards
Trevor
Post by: EHM-2155 Mariano on November 26, 2010, 06:56:36 am
I think there might be something wrong with my FS9, so I might look into flying the last leg only in FSX (which I don't cos of performance issues)
Anyway, congrats to everyone who already has delivered their planes to their destinations, and congrats to EHM for organizing the event. I hadn't done any of these before and it was fun, I'll look to be more active in the future.
Post by: EHM-0654 Murray on November 26, 2010, 10:15:09 am
Due to my work times I will have to fly the last leg to-day about 11:00z-12:00z
or tomorrow,(Saturday) but that would be a tad risky being the last day.
Hope to see someone on line.
Regards
Trevor
Quick word of warning for you Trev from your friendly presidential weather service...
METAR OK at KMSO right about now, and TAF suggests it'll stay that way (no snow, excellent visibility, cloud but not a cloud base). Light snow showers at CYCG and isn't going to stop any time soon according to the TAF (low cloud base, not too good visibility). Having said that CYCG TAF is "old" (1945Z yesterday), and you'll have landed by the time the TAF is updated.
Post by: EHM-1829 Trevor on November 26, 2010, 01:38:21 pm
Thanks for the info Murray. ;)
A wee change of plan as Mariano is having FS probs, have rescheduled the flight for 10:00z tomorrow.
Cheers,
Trevor
Post by: EHM-2387 Eric-Jan on November 26, 2010, 01:44:20 pm
Thanks for the info Murray. ;)
A wee change of plan as Mariano is having FS probs, have rescheduled the flight for 10:00z tomorrow.
Cheers,
Trevor
In that case, you might find someone doing circuit training @ CYCG ... ::)
(no promises though ;) )
Post by: EHM-0654 Murray on November 26, 2010, 01:59:23 pm
Post by: EHM-2589 David on November 26, 2010, 02:48:17 pm
Post by: EHM-0654 Murray on November 26, 2010, 04:39:22 pm
LATEST TAF REPORT FOR CYCG TAF CYCG 261539Z 2616/2701 VRB03KT P6SM -SN SCT020 OVC040 TEMPO 2616/2620 2SM -SN OVC020 FM262000 17010KT P6SM FEW020 BKN040 TEMPO 2620/2701 5SM -SHSN RMK NXT FCST BY 261900Z= LATEST FC REPORT FOR CYCG TAF CYCG 261539Z 2616/2701 VRB03KT P6SM -SN SCT020 OVC040 TEMPO 2616/2620 2SM -SN OVC020 FM262000 17010KT P6SM FEW020 BKN040 TEMPO 2620/2701 5SM -SHSN RMK NXT FCST BY 261900Z=
Post by: EHM-2589 David on November 26, 2010, 04:45:19 pm
Post by: EHM-0654 Murray on November 26, 2010, 04:54:21 pm
Post by: EHM-2589 David on November 26, 2010, 09:23:11 pm
Post by: EHM-1442 Luis on November 27, 2010, 11:47:13 am
Leg 8 - Thompson Falls (KTHM) to Castlegar (CYCG)
Climbing @ Thompson Falls
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Over Nelson
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Castlegar must be on the next valley
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Castlegar @ left hand
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Congratulations and thank you to management team.
When is the next bush fly event? :D
Cheers
Post by: EHM-2625 Jason on November 27, 2010, 11:53:17 am
Post by: EHM-2583 Dan on November 28, 2010, 03:06:15 pm
Bush flying is great. So,.....any plans for a floatplane in the Wild fleet ?
Thanks and regards to all,
Post by: EHM-1465 Dominic on November 29, 2010, 05:33:19 am
There are more Missions to come (which will become regular flights in the future once some technical issues are overcome) and we will indeed be looking to extend the range of bush planes available including floatplane operations. Watch this space ;)
Post by: EHM-2155 Mariano on November 30, 2010, 01:39:34 am
(a couple days ago to be honest. Haven't had time to do the writeup)
So at first I planned to fly this one with E-J and whoever else decided to show up, which turned out to be David and then Thomas (who was landing at Castlegar with a 1900). That, as was written by E-J before, was thwarted by FSim crashing on me. However I did get some pictures from that attempt:
[Limit reached]On the tarmac with E-J, his FSIM had the runway some 100 feet north of me.
[Limit reached]Flying half blind through the fog. It'd get much worse ahead.
[Limit reached]In a rare opening of visibility towards the valley heading north to Castlegar.
At some point between then and CYCG, my Fsim crashed, so I came online to let E-J know I wasn't gonna make it. I positioned my plane at CYCG and waited for these guys to arrive.
Then Thomas came on the radar but he was flying a Beech 1900D so he wasn't flying the tour leg, and approached from the north, doing a nice landing while I watched. While waiting for E-J and David, my Fsim crashed again. So I decided to give up for that day.
Next attempt was done with Trevor on saturday, last day of the tour. It wasn't without incident, either.
We started up very early, but cheating a bit, moved the time to early morning (we were flying out at 1000z, which was 0200 local time. Set my sim time to about 0730)
[Limit reached]Climbing out, Trevor barely visible on the lower left.
[Limit reached]More early morning flying.
[Limit reached]Sun starts to light the path ahead.
[Limit reached]Navigating the valleys and rivers that lead towards CYCG from the north.
At this point, Trevor's FS crashed. It seemed to be a problem with his scenary.
I proceeded to land, and he started his leg again. I then realized my leg hadn't registered in FLogger (used the old one in fear that the new FLogger was what was causing the crashes) as a ProPilot flight. So I had to re-fly again.
This time I just went from VOR to VOR not doing much bush flying and hurrying up, just wanted to finish the leg. Trevor crashed again while approaching from the south. I landed this time and submitted my PIREP. The tour was a success at last!
[Limit reached]Approaching from the south. Runway lights faintly seen from afar...
Trevor then flew his leg and approached from the north. I stood on the tarmac waiting for him, and finally he could make his landing and we celebrated. I later learned that he didn't submit his PIREP after landing which means his leg didn't count ;D So he flew it again in time and I think his tour is complete, too.
So to all management thanks for organizing the event, for those who joined me in my brave attempt to fly my first ProPilot event, online no less, Trevor, E-J, Murray, David, Franz, Yannick (hoping Im not forgetting anyone)
See you all next time in the skies :D
Post by: EHM-2387 Eric-Jan on November 30, 2010, 07:09:10 am
Well then after many hardships and flying this one leg three times, The Otter Has Landed!!
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Glad to see you made it in the end, Mariano. And in time too!
Nice pics and story :)
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Approaching from the south. Runway lights faintly seen from afar...
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They actually offset the PAPI's rwy33 by 12 degrees to the West just for this purpose ;)
Post by: EHM-1829 Trevor on November 30, 2010, 10:26:43 pm
Hi Folks
After two “crash to desktops” approaching Castlegar, two international rugby games, the semi finals of the Tennis
and a few amber nectar’s; it was panic stations when I found out at 22:00hrs that due to the mayhem I had
forgotten to submit my PIREP. :o
I managed to complete the leg before midnight without any probs, “a close run thing”.
Thanks again to the MT for another well run event, and also to the guys for the on-line company.
And i better not forget Mariano for his extreme patience on Saturday. ;D