Post by: EHM-2383 Ian on February 03, 2011, 10:50:49 pm
Firstly I have just bought a new PC which has a wide flatscreen. I am very disappointed by the fact that the main aircraft panels looks ridiculous in this.; all elongated horizontally. When I try the 4:3 configuration it looks fine but views outside the aircraft are affected. They are all squashed up! Can anyone help with a solution to this.
Also I have a problem with PMDG B737 aircraft. When I press the overhead view in the 2-D panel, the main panel vanishes. I had a tool which sets up the correct pathway for the installation of these aircraft and sorts this. However I have lost this when changing computers and can't remember where I got it originally . Can anyone tell me where I might acquire this again?
Thanks.
Ian
Post by: EHM-1465 Dominic on February 04, 2011, 02:12:59 am
I think the Flight1 registry repair tool is what you're after in the second question? If so, you can find it HERE (http://www.flight1.com/view.asp?page=library).
not sure about the solution to your first question - I got a widescreen monitor when I updated my PC and I know I had similar issues at first but I think I solved them by working out a specific resolution to match screen dimensions and then using that for both PC display settings and Flightsim display settings. But I'm no techie so you might well get a better answer from someone else ;)
Post by: EHM-2383 Ian on February 04, 2011, 09:26:08 am
Are you able to use the full widescreen with FS or do you have to use the 4:3 configuration that leaves a black border on the left and right? I can get FS into a 4:3 configuration by using the correct resolution but it would be great to be able to use full screen. Thinking about it, though, I can't visualise any way of getting the cockpit to "fit" the full screen as it seems too broad.
Regards,
Ian
Post by: EHM-1838 Andrew on February 04, 2011, 10:40:25 am
This widesceen monitor thing bothers me as well. I use a Philips 17inch monitor and although small by most peoples standards I am reluctant to change it because it is not widescreen and everything displays neatly in fulscreen mode and I certainly don't have to run FS with a black border, I would not like that at all.
Nobody seems to manufacture square monitors anymore and its rather annoying. I expect there available somewhere on line, but I like to go to a shop lay my money down and return with my goods.
Andy
Post by: EHM-2383 Ian on February 04, 2011, 11:17:35 am
I wish I had never changed my PC!!! I bought a high spec PC with 23in monitor thinking it would give me a brilliant flying experience. Not turning out to be the case! I think it was Dominic who said if it ain't broke, don't fix it. How true.
I now have another problem. I have installed FS9 and my PMDG B737 aircraft. However, while the basic aircraft are showing up OK on the aircraft selection panel, add-on liveries are not showing. I am using Windows7- 64-bit home premium edition. Has anyone experienced this and has a solution?
Ian
Post by: EHM-2381 Ted on February 04, 2011, 11:27:20 am
Post by: EHM-0654 Murray on February 04, 2011, 11:31:57 am
@Ian: this advice comes from another forum, but makes a great deal of sense if you're running 2D panels on a wide screen:-
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With your wide monitor, simply drag the right edge of the 2D panel leftward until the gauges are round again. This will leave a blank area of desktop which you fill in with popups. in the attached (experimental/demo) pic (PMDG 747) I have added in the lower EICAS, EICAS Sw panel and Misc Sw Panel. Or you could fill with FMC or Throttle popups.
Either way the panel looks better and is more functional.
Alex Reid
Post by: EHM-1997 Alexander on February 04, 2011, 01:24:30 pm
I mostly fly in VC where available though, and x-plane zooms the 2d panel in rather than stretching it out of proportion if it's a 4:3 designed panel rather than a newer widescreen designed panel.
Post by: EHM-1465 Dominic on February 04, 2011, 02:46:29 pm
Are you able to use the full widescreen with FS or do you have to use the 4:3 configuration that leaves a black border on the left and right? I can get FS into a 4:3 configuration by using the correct resolution but it would be great to be able to use full screen. Thinking about it, though, I can't visualise any way of getting the cockpit to "fit" the full screen as it seems too broad.
Regards,
Ian
I've just checked my FS9 settings to be clear, I use it in full screen and I have the display resolution set at 1600x1024 which matches the relative dimensions of the screen. The 2D panel comes up fine with no missing bits or black areas and the gauges are round - see screenshot. I just can't remember what I did to achieve this other than check the monitor size and ensure the display resolution matched the relative height vs width.
As to PMDG 737 liveries, I think you have to install them all one by one, they don't come automatically installed when you install the aircraft itself.
Post by: EHM-2383 Ian on February 04, 2011, 04:25:40 pm
I will try the resolution you suggest and see how it goes. Hopefully I can find a way of geting the liveries recognised, though, as I can't wait to get flying Euroharmony again.
Ian
Post by: EHM-1997 Alexander on February 04, 2011, 04:54:52 pm
I recommend installing elsewhere, like c:\flightsims\
Post by: EHM-2383 Ian on February 04, 2011, 06:19:21 pm
My hard drive seems to be named OS(C) so would I simply create a pathway os(c):\flightsims or would I have to put in os(c):\flightsims\FS9? Sorry I'm no good on computers and need things spelled out in nursery language.
Thanks.
Ian
Post by: EHM-2383 Ian on February 04, 2011, 07:56:50 pm
Would I also put FS9 in the flightsims folder?
Post by: EHM-0654 Murray on February 04, 2011, 08:10:04 pm
Post by: EHM-1997 Alexander on February 04, 2011, 08:17:29 pm
I would uninstall both programs to avoid registry problems before reinstalling.
Click Start->My computer and double click on the C drive. Click on 'new folder' (or right click and select new folder) and call it Flightsim (name doesn't matter).
Install FS9 and FSX to folders inside this flightsim folder. eg C:\Flightsim\FS2004 and C:\Flightsim\FSX
The reason to do this is as a security feature, both vista and windows 7 control access to the program files path, but it can cause problems with installing addons into FS9 and FSX if they are in that folder as you need elevated privileges for every install.
Once installed and patched up to date, I also right click on both the FS9 and FSX .exes and under compatibility disable desktop composition.
Post by: EHM-2383 Ian on February 04, 2011, 08:57:06 pm
Post by: EHM-1997 Alexander on February 04, 2011, 09:50:50 pm
Reinstalling is easier if your not IT confident or wanting to google it.
You have to weigh that against reinstalling all your add-ons, your call.
Post by: EHM-2383 Ian on February 04, 2011, 10:10:59 pm
Post by: EHM-2383 Ian on February 05, 2011, 04:25:58 pm
Post by: EHM-1997 Alexander on February 05, 2011, 05:21:15 pm
Glad you got it all sorted and can get back to enjoying simming.
If you run into the scenery bug with FSX on win 7:
Bug:
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There appears to be a bug with adding scenery to the FSX Scenery Library when running under Windows7 RC 64. The normal procedure of using the ADD button and then navigating to the desired scenery location results in a "Scenery Not Found" message.
Workaround:
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Instead of clicking on the scenery folder and clicking add, now you need to click on the scenery folder, click add, then right click anywhere in the white area of the folder.
Post by: EHM-2383 Ian on February 05, 2011, 06:38:17 pm
Post by: EHM-2383 Ian on February 05, 2011, 11:15:29 pm
With my previous computer I used World of AI for AI aircraft and quite liked this for ease of installing and uninstalling. However I had no sucess in installing aircraft tonight. It said they had been installed but were not. I note that the installer needs a Microsoft download .NET Framework 2.0 but when I tried to install this I got the message that it was not compatible with a 64 bit system! Stuck again!
Any advice on this or an alternative eg. Project PAI packages?
If these are not going to be possible maybe I have to go for the payware option?
Ian
Post by: EHM-2383 Ian on February 05, 2011, 11:21:17 pm
Post by: EHM-1465 Dominic on February 05, 2011, 11:45:23 pm
As a non-techie I'm guessing that Microsoft .NET framework 2 has been updated, I think it's on version 3.something now. As such if you get the latest 64 bit compatible version for your system, I think this should do what the World of AI Installer needs it to do from the earlier version. I'd like to think so anyway :D Then try and reinstall.
The other thing to check is that the WOAI installer might well be installing everything where FS would normally be (unless you pointed it to new FS location during install) so check Microsoft Games/Flight Simulator 9 location for all the necessary files and transplant them into your new FS location as I'm guessing from ealrier threads this is different?
I use WOAI myself so I can't offer opinion on any payware version, always found freeware to be great ;)
Post by: EHM-1242 Stef on February 06, 2011, 10:43:48 am
Running a Samsung 24" widescreen here (albeit on fsx nowadays, but shouldn't make a difference). 2D panels are made for certain resolutions only (say 1280x1024, which is 4:3 format). If you display this on a (in my case) 1920x1080 resolution monitor (16:9 format) ofcours this will cause stretching in full-screen. Luckily lot's of clever people have over the past years created modified panel bitmaps (and panel.cfg's) for the most common panel/aircraft packages for them to be able to be correctly displayed in 2D cockpit. Avsim.com, Flightsim.com and also the panel/aircraft-developers and their respective forums (read: other users) are your friends in this! ;)
Regarding your dotNet framework: let Windows update run and it will normally include the latest dotNet version updates for your system (check though!). By the way, if i am not mistaken, Win7 (any version) already comes with MS dotNet framework pre-installed. Considering that latest version is 3.5 something-and-a-bunch-of-updates which is already in Win7, dotNet version 2 is not required for you to be installed. It's all there already. Am running Vista 64 bit (ultimate) myself and have no problems whatsoever with dotNet, therefore doubt if your problem is specifically 64bit related, but rather that your errormessage is the M$-way of telling you you already have a higher version installed and therefore don't need to install this one.
When pointed at the correct location of FS during install (basically what Dominic also mentioned already) WoAI packages always worked fine on my FS9 system. Don't know, perhaps running the Flight1 utility may help again here? And also (just making sure here) make sure to select the correct FS-version in the WoAI installer because the folder structures in FS9 and FSX are rather diffent when it comes to installs within the FS-folder (should your FS9 folder now happen to have a sub-folder 'SimObjects' then this might very well have been the problem...)
On FS9 used to use WoAI to complement and/or update my Ultimate Traffic installed. (Payware) UT schedules were rarely renewed and therefore the (newer) WoAI packages were over-time and where applicable replacing the respective UT schedules in my system, however UT was kept to fill the gap for the airlines for which WoAI was not offering any packages. Bit of a puzzle at times but always worked nice for me for filling my virtual skies.
Presently on FSX am now using Ultimate Traffic 2 (FSX only!) because it's the only package which offers scheduled flights modelled after real world flightschedules (the other alternatives, well, don't), plus since UT2 is injecting their traffic through FSX own SimConnect the AI traffic can also be controlled route-wise, and so about 2/3rd of the UT2 AI traffic follows (albeit default FSX) jet airways! Really cool to watch and looks much more life-like! ;D
Hope the above helps you out, at least a little bit.
Cheers,
Stef
Post by: EHM-2383 Ian on February 06, 2011, 12:27:32 pm
There is a manual instal in the installer but this merely puts the aircraft into a file specified in the pathway you specify and you have to do the rest yourself. I have no idea how to do this. It also gives a box to tick about "decompile" and again I haven't a clue.
I don't have FSX installed so there is no conflict here.
This has all been a nightmare!!!
Stef: I have found a resolution in FS9 that works quite well. Not perfect but I can live with it.
Ian
Post by: EHM-1997 Alexander on February 06, 2011, 12:36:18 pm
First off, try an uninstall of thre WOI stuff, then use the flight 1 registry fix tool as Dom suggests
http://www.flight1software.com/files/FS_Registry_Repair.exe (http://www.flight1software.com/files/FS_Registry_Repair.exe)
and then attempt a reinstall.
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Otherwise, try running the WOAI installer under admin privileges (right click and run as administrator).
If it installs to the program folder then you could copy the files over to your install folder.
Post by: EHM-2589 David on February 06, 2011, 12:37:49 pm
When I used AI traffic in FS9 I use this one and right now is free, cause the last version is for FSX
http://forum.simflight.com/topic/66855-mytraffic-2006-dumped-to-free-download/ (http://forum.simflight.com/topic/66855-mytraffic-2006-dumped-to-free-download/)
Right now I don't utilize AI traffic, because I fly with IVAO ;D
Post by: EHM-2383 Ian on February 06, 2011, 01:18:56 pm
File name: FS9 Executable (FS9.EXE)
OPEN
I don't know what to do with this.
FS9 is in the pathway C:\Flightsim\FS2004.
Post by: EHM-1997 Alexander on February 06, 2011, 02:06:42 pm
Post by: EHM-2383 Ian on February 06, 2011, 02:57:32 pm
Post by: EHM-2383 Ian on February 06, 2011, 05:09:26 pm
When I do that it comes up with the same page as above. Is that it then done?
I think I may have worked out how to operate the FS Registry fix. What is the FS9.exe file? Is that the one in the FS folder with the picture of an aircraft and labelled FS9?
Post by: EHM-1997 Alexander on February 06, 2011, 05:26:29 pm
Post by: EHM-1242 Stef on February 06, 2011, 07:54:48 pm
Just a hint: in Control Panel -> Folder Options -> 'View'-tab, you may want to switch off / disable the option "Hide extensions for known filetypes" (this is what it's called in WinXP/Vista. Don't know exactly in Win7 though)
This option is in fact a bitch, especially when working with the files themselves like you have experienced just now (and trust me: you will find yourself doing this more often then you may want to). There is FS9.ini, FS9.exe, FS9.dll: when file-extensions are not displayed, how are you going to tell the difference easily between these files!?!?
M$$ and their continous ever lasting efforts to 'dumb down' the end-users with such totally useless features which only lead to problems... >:(
Cheers,
Stef
Post by: EHM-0654 Murray on February 06, 2011, 09:33:24 pm
Ian,
Just a hint: in Control Panel -> Folder Options -> 'View'-tab, you may want to switch off / disable the option "Hide extensions for known filetypes" (this is what it's called in WinXP/Vista. Don't know exactly in Win7 though)
To help out here, easiest way in Windows 7 is to open a Windows Explorer/My Computer window, click on the Organize menu, and choose Folder and Search Options. Then, under View, untick Hide extensions for known filetypes.
Post by: EHM-2383 Ian on February 07, 2011, 10:13:44 am
Ian
Post by: EHM-2383 Ian on February 07, 2011, 10:24:47 pm
Post by: EHM-1465 Dominic on February 08, 2011, 05:36:49 am
I still can't get WoAI installer to find correct pathway. However I can find where they are being placed and move them manually to where they should be!! The aircraft go into the same folder as the unpacked zip file and a new scenery\world\texture gets created in on the hard drive. The contents then have to be removed from there into the correct places. I give up!!
In FS9 (at least) there should be a traffic_xxxxx.bgl (where xxxxx is the name of the airline etc) which goes into the Scenery/World/Scenery folder (rather than the texture folder) and the aircraft get put in your main aircraft folder. That should normally be it!
Are your AI planes showing up now Ian ?
Post by: EHM-2383 Ian on February 08, 2011, 10:58:50 am
Ian