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Community Discussion => Flight Operations => Topic started by: EHM-2097 Andrei on May 13, 2012, 11:24:59 am
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Hi all,
We are about to release a new tour; preparations are on "short finals" now, so it's still a surprise for a (short) while.
Instead of bluntly announcing the location and details, I will allow myself to "leak" some clues to see who can guess what this is all about - and where.
Clue #1 is: The second time, you do it twice.
Andrei
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Difficult one Andrei :-\ to tell you the truth is like an scrambled home or something like that ???
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Oeff!
Does that mean I have to do the first time first, Andrei?
:o
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Indeed, the plot is not obvious... yet. If anyone had guessed the tour by my first clue, I would have checked my house for bugs already.
So here is clue #2: 2581
@Eric-Jan: as a general rule, one doesn't need to, but YOU may WANT to :)
Andrei
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EHM-2581 Dirk, do you have the answer... maybe ;D
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Has it got to do with South-African insects, perhaps?
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I can boldly state the tour has nothing with South-African insects!
However I cannot that easily dismiss David's suggestion, it's a strange coincidence indeed... or is it?
Andrei
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Maybe is something that I really like to fly and I missed twice: the US Airmail Pioneers Event, cause I'm an "old newbie"... nevertheless, as you wrote Andrei, Second clue: 2581 or 2586, could be NM and if it is, this is the distance between KJFK-KSFO. So I guess US Airmail Pioneers third version, but in a tour. Actually, I've a little question, just arrived @ KSFO, is possible to fly one of the lovely DC-3 (PP-A41; PP-A43; PP-A48; PP-A50; PP-A52 Douglas DC-3 Operational @ KSFO) in PP flight ???. Thanks for your help. :)
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Hmm, if memory serves, the DC-3 (my favourite plane in the fleet, it really must be said, and X-P just got a stunning looking DC-3) is in the museum fleet, so not available for PP (or is it... Alex/Dom, care to comment?). Dear Daddy Dom, please can we run the Airmail Pioneers event one more time, please? ;D
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All Museum planes can be flown as if they were Main Fleet planes of the equivalent 'rank' so you can fly a DC-3 on any Class 1 route, including PP flights ;)
And if enough people would like to fly the Airmail Pioneers Event again then of course we can do that in due course... But let's get back to the new Tour :)
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Sorry to disrupt your otherwise very interesting chat about DC3s and the Airmail Event (which I also missed twice, sadly), but this is not what the new tour is about. And I prove it with clue #3:
Athens (yes, THAT one) and Faranah (hmm.. where is that ?) share a common particularity regarding this tour
@David: ~2581 nm between KJFK and KFSO, now THAT is a coincidence.
Andrei
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Me of course, I'm ready and really like to fly for the first time the US Airmail Pioneers Event with my DC-3 (MAAM) ;)
Faranah... Guinee... It could be a dessert storm tour ??? or another Crosière noire ???
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Hehehe, you are all over the place, aren't you, David ? :)
We'll park the Airmail thinghy for now, and incorporate it in our future plans (it's got my vote, too, because I had to stop after leg 2 already), so we'll get back to that in due time.
For now, it's got nothing to do with the suspense Andrei is hinting at. And no, it's not another 007 tour ;)
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Faranah, Guinea is correct... but packing only summer clothes for this tour is not.
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No more guesses? Anyway, clue #4 is
150
Andrei
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150, are you sure?
shouldn't that be 160, as that is 2 times 80?
;)
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or two times 75 ??? anyway LGAV-GUFH 2886 mi ::)
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I couldn't agree more on the fact that 2 x 75 = 150, unfortunately this doesn't get us any closer to the tour business. Maybe clue #5 will:
Really big.
To give a "sub-clue" as well, I really expect clue #5 to ring a bell for all those who did it the first time.
Anyway, this is the final clue, and your last chance for a guess (be it an educated or a wild one), this week-end the tour will open and everything will become clear.
Andrei
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A really big, maybe 150 legs... is another or new World tour :P
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Good guess David!
Now if you could wait just a bit to hear the whole story...
The whole story already published by now, check the announcement here (http://www.fly-euroharmony.com/forum/index.php/topic,7098.0.html)
Andrei
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Now if anyone wonders about the clues:
#1 "The second time, you do it twice" - Should be pretty obvious by now, for anyone who reads the tour announcement and details
#2 "2581" - This was indeed a reference to our colleague Dirk Uys, as he had recently completed the original world tour and expressed his feelings about it in the forum. This tour has been in preparation for a long time but releasing it now means a special message for Dirk: "no, it's not over, you have to start it all over again!" :)
#3 "Athens and Faranah" - That was a bit tricky. Athens is the starting and ending point of the tour. Faranah is where the two laps around the world cross, which means these are the (only) two places to be visited twice.
#4 "150" - I expected this to ring a bell for all who are familiar with the world tour
#5 "Really big." - This should have rang an even louder bell. Note the final dot within the quote. The full quote is "The world is big. Really big." and it is the beginning of the tour description for the first Euroharmony world tour (a long time ago, before I joined for sure)
Andrei
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;)
And "all over the place" was also meant as a hint.
Of course " twice around the word" in two times 80 legs was also meant to point you in the right direction
;)
So nice, those little games ; D
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Finally guessed :P and thanks for the big gift ;D However I've a little question, is possible to fly the vfr or some of the vfr fllights with the DC-3 ??? and thanks again for the gift :D
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Hi David,
The choice of aircraft for the Double World Tour is yours - fly what you like as long as it is suitable for the trip distance and the runway length at each end!!!
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Thanks Dominic, but the only problem is that the DC-3 doesn't appear in the aircraft list ???
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Fixed.
The first time I had added every aircraft that "exists in the fleet", without realizing what I am missing by doing this way. Are there other notable absences?
Andrei
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Alexander or Andrei might correct me here but the box on the Tour Assignment page only relates to the older VFR tours where you have to choose one plane to use for the whole Tour.
This Tour allows you to use anything you want that is suitable so in my view you can choose any of the planes shown in the drop down box and it doesn't stop you flying with any other aircraft during the Tour ;)
EDIT - Only just seen your response Andrei - does the dropdown box choice cause Flogger to reject other aircraft when a Tour flight is selected?
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The tour legs are "known" by FL4 as assigned flights, which means the web site says the origin, destination AND type of aircraft. I suppose (this being Alexander's area of expertise) that the type of aircraft sent by the web site is the one selected in the tour page.
However, as long as there is no automatic check between the "planned" and "actual" types of aircraft, this means that there is no blocker, but the flight is recorded as flown using the "planned" type of aircraft. There is of course a way to manually check for any abuse here, but as far as such a tour is concerned and the flight duration/speed/altitude are plausible, I suppose no one will ask further questions.
Thus, selecting an aircraft in the tour page is not mandatory for FL4, but I think it's good to do so in order to keep a clean flight record. Don't know for sure yet, I have completed the first world tour before the assignment system was created so I never checked this on my own flights.
Andrei
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Sorry about not having responded Andrei!. I was away for a bit and only had acess to the net for about 1 hour - too short to pick up on the new planning clues. Had I been here I should have been very stupid indeed to not have picked it up as the first two clues were (or would have been) clear give-aways for me.
I returned last evening and first thing this morning did 2 outstanding 007 legs and as I was on the verge of logging off I noticed the new forum article on a new tour. Being on the lookout for new adventures I went into it and saw it has already been solved and I had already flown the first leg. This one is surely going to be even tougher than no 1? Let's see!
Anyway, Andrei, thank you for having put this one on as it gives one something to be busy with as opposed to just flying randomly.
Look forward to the "African Bush" part to see what you came up with there.!
Regards
Dirk
EHM2581
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Fixed.
The first time I had added every aircraft that "exists in the fleet", without realizing what I am missing by doing this way. Are there other notable absences?
Andrei
Thanks Andrei ;) what about the Fokker 50 ::)
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Thanks Andrei ;) what about the Fokker 50 ::)
It is allowed now, I am too emotionally connected to the Fokkers to let these out of the fun :)
Andrei