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Title: Ooooooppppps
Post by: EHM-0654 Murray on November 27, 2004, 11:53:39 am
Just completed the flight that gets me SCC status (woohoo!); EGLL to EHAM (EHM-5000), but that's not why I posted.

Having submitted my PIREP to IVAO and the Flight Logger, I noticed that the majority of the IVAO PIREPed flight hours for EHM have come from two pilots (I'm one of them...)!

Come on folks, get those PIREPs into IVAO or we'll lose our registration thingy. Gergely has made it clear that we all need to be filing an average of an hour each a week on IVAO... Don't leave it all up to Bruno and me ('cause I for one have a couple of big projects on the go that are keeping me away from flying...)
Title: Ooooooppppps
Post by: EHM-0744 Alex on November 27, 2004, 12:58:59 pm
Totally agree, I havent posted anyhting up yet since I just got up and flying yesterday... But I'll try to get some hours onto the IVAO registration thing, oh, by the way do you have to file a PiRep on the EHM website and on the IVAO one, or just on one of them?

Cheers,

Alex;)
Title: Ooooooppppps
Post by: EHM-0361 Karsten on November 27, 2004, 01:17:55 pm
Hey Alex,

Good to hear you have gotten back in the air again. You need to file a PiRep both here and at IVAO, Gergely tells how here http://www.euroharmony.com/~forum/viewthread.php?tid=761
Title: Ooooooppppps
Post by: EHM-1281 Cyriel on November 27, 2004, 09:05:27 pm
I would love to help and report flights, however since I installed the latest IVAP version 0.32 I have not been able to fly online. Connecting works perfect but as soon as I receive a message ( from atc, unicom, metar or whatever) It crashes with the message "ivap lost connection to the message router. SO until they realease a version that wil work on my computer I'm afraid I'm out of the online flying business for now ( unlessI start using Squawk box again).
Title: Ooooooppppps
Post by: EHM-1500 Jim on November 28, 2004, 11:39:56 am
Sorry guys, i have done about 5hrs of EHM flights on IVAO but didn't realise they had a PIREP system as well. Will start from to-day i promise !!!!
Title: Ooooooppppps
Post by: EHM-0001 Gergely on November 28, 2004, 05:54:30 pm
You can report there old pireps too (up to 6 months old)
Title: Ooooooppppps
Post by: EHM-1281 Cyriel on November 28, 2004, 08:49:19 pm
This morning I also managed to complete an online flight and reported it. Did not realize however I also had to record the amount of burn fuel mandatory. So just so everyone knows it is not as friendly as out pireps.

Make sure to record TAS, Burnt Fuel, take off time, landing time, alternate airport etc.
Title: Ooooooppppps
Post by: EHM-0654 Murray on November 29, 2004, 09:28:17 am
Quote
Originally posted by cyriel
Make sure to record TAS, Burnt Fuel, take off time, landing time, alternate airport etc.

You can get most of the information required for the IVAO PIREP out of our flight logger, and it saves a lot of writing for our PIREP, just not distance (which is a right pain...) Thankfully, I use a rather good online route planner which includes the route distance (minus any additions for the SID/STAR) and all I do is round it to the nearest nautical mile; you can find it at http://rfinder.asalink.net/free/.
Title: Ooooooppppps
Post by: EHM-0001 Gergely on December 06, 2004, 09:11:00 am
One request... if you submit the pirep on the IVAO site, enter the callsign you used online to fly the flight! Not your EHM ID!
Title: Ooooooppppps
Post by: EHM-0744 Alex on December 06, 2004, 10:34:05 am
Yea, I had quite some doubts about using the flight Callsign or my callsign the first time...:)
Title: Ooooooppppps
Post by: EHM-1281 Cyriel on December 06, 2004, 11:05:14 am
I always use my ehm ID as my callsign. I expected everybody did but appearently I was wrong. Yesterday I was able again to complete a flight online. I saw we already have 40 online hours reported yesterday.
Title: Ooooooppppps
Post by: EHM-0948 Bruno on December 06, 2004, 11:44:42 am
Hi,

I really like to see topics like this on our VA.
It really touches me when I see people making efforts on making our VA even all-day even better.

Yesterday I made another flight online. I will report it today.

Regards,
Title: Ooooooppppps
Post by: EHM-0744 Alex on December 06, 2004, 03:57:53 pm
Yep, people have really started to fly online more than before... including me! I fly online much more now than before.:)

Cheers,

Alex;)
Title: Ooooooppppps
Post by: EHM-0641 Rico on December 06, 2004, 10:53:43 pm
513 pilots and ATC online today !!!
Title: Ooooooppppps
Post by: Anonymous on December 07, 2004, 07:19:20 am
The record was 719 last Tuesday... :)
Title: Ooooooppppps
Post by: EHM-1500 Jim on December 18, 2004, 07:28:39 am
Dear all, as you may have noticed i have finally got round to logging my euroharmony flights on the IVAO Pireps. However, looking at the number of pilots who signed up there still seems to be alot of people who are not logging their flights separately with the IVAO Pirep. It would be a real shame if we loose are IVAO status especially if people are doing the flights but not logging them. Sorry to sound like an old woman (no offence Jen, LOL) but feel kind of strong about this. Jim
Title: Ooooooppppps
Post by: EHM-0744 Alex on December 18, 2004, 10:31:13 am
Jim I think the hour or 2 hours we had to log every week are easy to achieve, I dont think that there is any possibility of them removing us.
Title: Ooooooppppps
Post by: EHM-1538 Jen on December 18, 2004, 03:05:14 pm
LOL Jim... no offence taken.

I guess I need to get over my anxiety of making a mistake online (that keeps me from trying IVAO) and jump in.
Title: Ooooooppppps
Post by: EHM-0948 Bruno on December 18, 2004, 03:35:26 pm
Jen,

We (Management) are very sensible to you problem.

Soon we will start a training program to help pilots like you, who are afraid of making a mistake online.
Cyriel is the person responsible to our Online Flying and Traininng Area.

Regards,
Title: Ooooooppppps
Post by: EHM-1281 Cyriel on December 18, 2004, 03:59:48 pm
and busy with setting up a training flight as we speak. And don't worry about making mistakes. Everyone does (including the ATC self). We try to make it as real as possible but there are limits:P

If you don't want to wait until the training setup is finished check EGLL_APP in the evening's if you see me online. One thing is sure. You do not have to be afraid of me.;D
Title: Ooooooppppps
Post by: EHM-0744 Alex on December 18, 2004, 04:27:43 pm
Yep, when I was a begginer pilot I imagined the ATC 's as something comparable to a god, in which you could rely on to get you down safely even if you did everything wrong, them never making mistakes.

A time after, I started as an ATC, and I can tell you, ATC's DO make mistakes, myself as an example.

Cyriel is right, get Servinfo (If you dont already), and you might want to go to the "Selected Details" section, and enter the names of a few EHM members that you have seen/heard of in the forum (for example).

Youll be amazed how if not on the first day, on the second you will see an EHM member controlling somewhere across the world.

Cheers and hope to see you online at any future event!

Alex;)
Title: Ooooooppppps
Post by: EHM-1538 Jen on December 18, 2004, 07:00:22 pm
Well, it is good to know that (judging from the results of the poll on the main page) I'm not the only one in this boat!

If anyone needs to find me, I'll be the one immersed in the EHM Online Flying Manual and the IVAO tutorials... LOL.  ;D

Thanks for the encouragement!
Title: Ooooooppppps
Post by: EHM-0001 Gergely on December 19, 2004, 10:22:37 am
Hi Jen,

Glad to see that You fly online. Be sure to visit LHBP, I often control there. :)

Gergely
Title: Ooooooppppps
Post by: EHM-1538 Jen on December 19, 2004, 04:12:11 pm
Thanks Gergely... I decided to make my first run at using IvAp in the wee hours of the morning and in an uncontrolled area... but it's a step in the right direction.  ;D
Title: Ooooooppppps
Post by: EHM-1358 Tim on December 19, 2004, 04:27:26 pm
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Originally posted by Jen
Thanks Gergely... I decided to make my first run at using IvAp in the wee hours of the morning and in an uncontrolled area... but it's a step in the right direction.  ;D


Not trying to be off putting here. But EHAM is a nasty place to fly online. :] Honestly, it can get very busy, and they normally like you to get the addon for the new runway. I didnt do that. :$
Title: Ooooooppppps
Post by: EHM-1539 Pierre on December 20, 2004, 07:15:04 am
Woops, wasn't aware of the IVAO pirep stuff.... Anyway did only one flight for the moment.
Won't forget to fill the IVAO pirep after the next one !
Title: Ooooooppppps
Post by: EHM-1617 Iain on April 24, 2005, 07:55:15 am
OK I've looked at that link, but all I see is where the menu is supposed to be is the failed to load image (red-cross) symbol and I can't do anything!

Thanks
Title: Ooooooppppps
Post by: EHM-1365 Benjamin on April 24, 2005, 11:13:54 am
Check that you have Java installed correctly, or try updating it.

http://java.sun.com

Saying that you will probably find the menu changes in the near future to a much more PC friendly menu (not as nice looking though).
Title: Ooooooppppps
Post by: EHM-1617 Iain on April 24, 2005, 11:39:57 am
Which d/load(s) do I need?
Title: Ooooooppppps
Post by: EHM-1365 Benjamin on April 24, 2005, 12:15:41 pm
Try this link.....
http://www.java.com/en/download/windows_automatic.jsp

If not there is a manual download available here:
http://www.java.com/en/download/manual.jsp

The link in the previous post looked more complicated than I remember :-S
Title: Ooooooppppps
Post by: EHM-1199 Philip on April 24, 2005, 03:22:44 pm
I've clocked up knocking on for thirty hours on IVAO that has been recorded as pilot time and I always file a flight plan. However I didn't even know of the need to file a PIREP with IVAO. Do I need to go back through my online flights at EHM and get the details to file on IVAO?
Title: Ooooooppppps
Post by: EHM-1500 Jim on April 24, 2005, 05:48:16 pm
Phil, you only need to log the flight with IVAO if it was for Euroharmony using a EHM callsign and one of the time tabled flights...IVAO automatically logs the hours you spend on IVAO but doesnt log them for the airline...most of the info you need is in the flights section of your pilot data on this site except for distance of flight and flight plan.....
Title: Ooooooppppps
Post by: EMH-1627 on April 26, 2005, 07:22:38 pm
I would love to post my PIREP's but i am not actually listed as being part of this VA, so don't have the option to do so!!!

HELP PLEASE
Title: Ooooooppppps
Post by: EHM-0654 Murray on April 26, 2005, 09:05:18 pm
Digging up an old topic here Chris, anyhow, to quote Gergely's original post in the Announcement forum:-

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Originally posted by YR-TGM
If you fly on IVAO and didn't register yet in the system, you can do it here:
[url]http://www.ivao.org/members/virtual_airline/stats/va_stats.asp?Id=5380[/url]

Gergely


But having looked, you'd probably be better off at http://www.ivao.org/members/virtual_airline/admin/va_details.asp?Id=5380
Title: Ooooooppppps
Post by: EMH-1627 on April 26, 2005, 09:17:36 pm
right so i have click on become a member, although i am already registered here...hope that this is correct
Title: Ooooooppppps
Post by: EHM-1506 Emre on April 27, 2005, 01:48:30 pm
:'( I WANT TO FLY ONLINE TOO!!! BUT I CAN NOT DUE TO POOR LINE CONDITIONS!!! :'( I AM VERY SAD ABOUT THIS... AND ANGRY!!! :{
Title: Ooooooppppps
Post by: EHM-1199 Philip on April 27, 2005, 05:29:25 pm
HELP!!!
I'm still struggling with this. I am already a member at IVAO and the two links above don't seem to help me tie my membership into the EHM membership.

One link takes me to a static information page, the other takes me to a page about joining EHM that lets me fire off an e-mail to EHM. I just want a button to click in IVAO that says I am already a member of EHM and can this be tied to my IVAO stats etc.
Title: Ooooooppppps
Post by: EHM-1365 Benjamin on April 27, 2005, 07:38:13 pm
Click the button that fires off the email to EHM, then someone with the power will accept you into the IVAO EHM section and set callsign etc...you just need to click that one button  :]
Title: Ooooooppppps
Post by: EMH-1627 on April 28, 2005, 12:16:30 pm
yeah it says become a member!!!

didn't take long for me to get the e-mail that says i have been accepted, and then i can post all my PIREPS!!! :>

But can i only post the online ones or can i also post the offline ones??
Title: Ooooooppppps
Post by: liam on May 04, 2005, 08:54:43 pm
im like the only person who dont fly with ivoa lol
i fly with vatsim... becosue ivoa dont work.
Title: Ooooooppppps
Post by: EHM-1617 Iain on May 04, 2005, 08:59:49 pm
It does - and it's a hell of a lot easier to use the VATSIM.

Squawkbox aaaaaaaaaaargh! No offense to the people who make it, of course!
Title: Ooooooppppps
Post by: EHM-1627 Chris on May 05, 2005, 11:30:35 am
i have never used squawkbox, although i find the selection for the Euro harmony planes when using IVAP very confusing...i think that i will need to remove it all together and then start again.

Ben says that the i have a strange issue with my IVAP and he dosn't know what it is!!!
Title: Ooooooppppps
Post by: EHM-1365 Benjamin on May 05, 2005, 11:58:25 am
Chris,

I meant IvAp has issues with this....

eg. if you select GLID (for Glider) you can't send your flight plan because nothing will appear in the MTL section ;)
Title: Ooooooppppps
Post by: EHM-1627 Chris on May 05, 2005, 12:06:47 pm
ahh rite...so what do i need to put as my MTL part for the euro harmony aircraft...is there a list that i can find somewhere???

if not then i would like to put it through as a site sugestion...although can't remember if there is such a place in this site!
Title: Ooooooppppps
Post by: EHM-1365 Benjamin on May 05, 2005, 12:10:05 pm
Well when you need to find the ICAO code for an aircraft, you can search the IVAO database here http://www.ivao.org/db/aircraft. Then type in part of the name in the search section and it will give you the ICAO code. Hopefully when you put this in the top of the flightplan it will come up with some MTL suggestions in the MTL section.
Title: Ooooooppppps
Post by: EHM-1627 Chris on May 05, 2005, 12:13:53 pm
no i can find the plane alrite on the plane list...the problem comes when selecting the MTL...there is no plane that is of the same number...ie nothing that says B747 (although this is there...couldn't remember what was missing).if what i have just said is unclear then say and i will take some screen shots of what i get.
Title: Ooooooppppps
Post by: EHM-1365 Benjamin on May 05, 2005, 12:19:38 pm
Ok, you will have to select a different plane in the top section, so if you are using a prop plane, just select B350, and same in the bottom for example.

This will hopefully get fixed soon.....Gergely?
Title: Ooooooppppps
Post by: EHM-0654 Murray on May 05, 2005, 12:50:23 pm
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Originally posted by C_Blyth
no i can find the plane alrite on the plane list...the problem comes when selecting the MTL...there is no plane that is of the same number...ie nothing that says B747 (although this is there...couldn't remember what was missing).if what i have just said is unclear then say and i will take some screen shots of what i get.

Like Ben says, pick a plane of equivalent size from the MTL list, and indicate in your FP notes what you are really flying (this just makes it easier for other pilots, ATC always "see" what you are really flying)

So, when I fly the IVAO VFR WT in the Piaggio P180 Avanti, I use the Beech KingAir MTL model (about the right size and cruise speed, and the KA is also a twin prop)
Title: Ooooooppppps
Post by: EHM-1627 Chris on May 08, 2005, 12:33:59 pm
The Problem is that i don't have that plane listed in the second section

this is what i get

(http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2005-2/944399/FLTSIM.jpg)

and the problem i have is not knowing what to put into the bottom section

Can I put the D328...is looking at things is it quite similar
Title: Ooooooppppps
Post by: EHM-1617 Iain on May 08, 2005, 12:41:14 pm
Send your Flight Plan 1st, then the top box will be filled in automatically. If there is a correct model in the MTL library, then that will automatically appear in the bottom box. Otherwise, just select from the bottom list the acft that is most like what you are actually flying.
Title: Ooooooppppps
Post by: EHM-1627 Chris on May 09, 2005, 12:02:28 pm
yeah, so for the euro harmony prop planes can i use the D328...Ben said to use the B350, although this is not on the bottom list at all!!!

i think that Ben may have meat to put the B350 in to the top box.  although with most of the EuroHarmony planes i can actually find them in the top box!!