Soooooooo off topic...

[EHM-0654 Murray]

Is anyone out there working with Mambo, the open source CMS?

I want to show my employer that Mambo would be a nice, cheap way to have our company website CMS'ed, so I have installed it on my FreeBSD playbox at home, but I know nothing about how such things work.

If anyone out there works with Mambo, designing the templates and such (the admin/superadmin side of it is easy to understand) I'd be most greatful for a look at a running real-world template (and the website it builds) so I can get some idea of how to go about making the template for work...

[EHM-0948 Bruno]

Did you tried TikiWiki ?

[EHM-0654 Murray]

Nope, but we do have MediaWiki (the software Wikipedia uses) running on the intranet for our developers to share knowledge, so I know where you're going with this Bruno.

Unfortunately, we don't want that open an architecture. A CMS is precisely what they want it running on, they even spoke to a company peddling their own CMS about it, but the costs were silly.

[EHM-1617 Iain]

Bruno, did you see the U2U I sent you concerning the Award Engine?

[EHM-0948 Bruno]

Yes.

I count 16 on departure and 18 on arrival.

ICAOS prefixes considered :
'EB','ED','EE','EF','EG','EH','EI','EK','EL','EN','EP','ES','ET','EV','EY','LA','LB','LC','LD','LE','LF','LG','LH','LI','LJ','LK','LL','LM','LO','LP','LQ','LR','LS','LT','LU','LV','LW','LY','LZ','BG','BI','UK','UL','UM','UR','UU','UW'

Regards,

[EHM-1617 Iain]

It seems to work differently than I thought. I thought it was simply the number of countries you had departed from or had arrived at altogether.

Is it instead the number of countries visited on departure must be more than 20 and also the number of countries visited on arrival must be more than 20 also, am I correct?

This from the awards page:

European Pilot Award
Awarded when you have visited at least 10, 20 or 40 different European countries (departure/destination) during your reported flights.

I took "departure/destination" to mean that you had been on the ground in (not just overflown). But obviously it means that the dep. and dest. are totalled up separately and both must be above 20 (for silver).

Perhaps this could be reworded to make it a little clearer.

[EHM-0654 Murray]

Originally posted by EHM-1617
It seems to work differently than I thought. I thought it was simply the number of countries you had departed from or had arrived at altogether.

Is it instead the number of countries visited on departure must be more than 20 and also the number of countries visited on arrival must be more than 20 also, am I correct?

This from the awards page:

European Pilot Award
Awarded when you have visited at least 10, 20 or 40 different European countries (departure/destination) during your reported flights.

I took "departure/destination" to mean that you had been on the ground in (not just overflown). But obviously it means that the dep. and dest. are totalled up separately and both must be above 20 (for silver).

Perhaps this could be reworded to make it a little clearer.

Guys, this *so* has nothing to do with my request for assistance...

...but as far as I understood it, you need to have taken off from, or landed at, 10/20/40* (delete as appropriate) different countries (going by ICAO), as per country list previously given by Bruno, to qualify for each level of the EuroPilot award.

Thinking in terms of a spreadsheet, we have a list of forty countries (41 or so codes, Germany at the very least has multiple ICAO country codes). If I fly EGLL-EHAM, I get a "1" in the EG row, and a "1" in the EH row; total countries visited is "2". If I then fly EDDT-EGNT, I get a "1" in the ED/ET row, but as I already have a "1" in the EG row (and this list is "binary exclusive") I don't get another "1" in EG; total countries visited is "3".

[EHM-0948 Bruno]

Hi Iain,

I think that you are right, and Murray's analysis is also very correct.

The script is not 100% accurate because it is based on departure and arrival countries made with separate analysis.

What we need here is to grab the distinct departure airport countries list, and grab the distinct destination airports that are not contained on the first departure list.

That will make the script more accurate, and definately more in line of thought with what is written (and it is correct) on the awards page.

I am going to change the script and it will run again this evening.

Thank you for your analysis.

[EHM-1617 Iain]

Oh so its the script that's wrong not the award page. Cos going by my list, I have (using Murray's method and what I was using before) visited about 22 countries.

But the script won't have that and totals dep and dest separately and I get about 18 and 16 respectively.

@Murray: The subject of this thread was 'off topic', so I thought I'd stick to the name

Anyway, this can go back to the original topic now. Sorry for the interruption.

Originally posted by Murray Crane
Is anyone out there working with Mambo, the open source CMS?

I want to show my employer that Mambo would be a nice, cheap way to have our company website CMS'ed, so I have installed it on my FreeBSD playbox at home, but I know nothing about how such things work.

If anyone out there works with Mambo, designing the templates and such (the admin/superadmin side of it is easy to understand) I'd be most greatful for a look at a running real-world template (and the website it builds) so I can get some idea of how to go about making the template for work...