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Offline EHM-0005 Maarten

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« on: October 23, 2006, 11:05:12 am »
Hi all,

Today, I decided to fly a new type of aircraft that I was not familiar with, so I downloaded the Dassault Falcon 50EX of EHB. After making some circuits the handling felt good and I was ready for my first flight, well I thought so :).

My climb was according to the Flight Operations Manual that was included with this aircraft; Initially 3400 ft/min @ 200 kts and after that 260 kts till M0.72. The problem is that I never made it to M0.72. Around FL300 my v/s was 200 ft/min in order to maintain my speed above 200 kts. With my planned cruise level of FL350 it would take 25 min to get there. When I got to FL330 I decided to request FL330 as my cruising level.

During level-off my airspeed did climb a bit, but became stable at M0.63 (231 kts) (target speed was M0.80 @ FL350). I decided to end the flight, because I would probably not make it to my destination (not enough fuel).

What's your experience with this aircraft? Am I the only one who has problems with this aircraft? I checked out the website of the aircraft, but there's no useful information there. Perhaps it has something to do with the fact that the aircraft was designed for FS2002?

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« Reply #1 on: October 23, 2006, 02:28:06 pm »
Hi Maarten,

I've made more or less the same experience like you with the Falcon 50 and I'm still using FS2002. I suppose that this aircraft won't fly better with FSX. :|

Actually I like the F50, like you said, the handling feels good and the aircraft flies very smoothly. But if you are climbing higher than ~FL250 it's like you're loosing 2 engines and fly with only 1 engine left. ;D

So I take it only for short haul flights and choose another one for longer flights.

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« Reply #2 on: October 23, 2006, 02:37:55 pm »
Thanks for your reply. It's a pitty that it's a bug in the aircraft, I hoped it was my fault :).

I guess I will stick to the good ol' Fokker 70/100

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« Reply #3 on: October 23, 2006, 05:26:57 pm »
I know it's a daft question, but have you checked your fuel and payload? I found with a clean install of the Falcon for some reason I was overloaded by about 20%. I can also tell you that it does not work on FSX.

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« Reply #4 on: October 23, 2006, 05:32:17 pm »
The aircraft was not too heavy. The CG was quite far forward, but within limits. Besides that, a more forward CG is normal for these kind of aircraft.

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« Reply #5 on: October 23, 2006, 07:46:37 pm »
Hi folks,

the airplane was really designed for FS2002, although we supported it with FS2004 updated dynamics. I will look after it, and any update will be included in the repainted version.

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« Reply #6 on: October 23, 2006, 10:20:38 pm »
Thanks in advance Robert. It's a nice aircraft so it's really worth it to update the flight dynamics.

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« Reply #7 on: October 30, 2006, 05:16:39 pm »
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Originally posted by EHM-1549 Stefan
...the handling feels good and the aircraft flies very smoothly.

Umm... Not to rain on your parade Stefan, but to quote Yannick (whose F50 our F50ex is based on) it should feel heavy and actually be sluggish until it gets quite light on fuel, just like the real thing. At or abouts max landing weight, you can expect to be at 70-80% throttle to maintain glideslope!

But, given all this discussion I've downloaded the fleet F50ex and Yannicks original F50 (for FS2002) and I'm going to compare and contrast...
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