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Offline EHM-1657 Jay

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« on: January 09, 2007, 12:37:52 pm »
Bruno or someone I am not sure exactly who, ProPilot awarded me a crash in midair !?! I was flying along at 5000 feet and all of a sudden it said I had crashed my plane :( Can someone please correct this so that I can continue the Dakar ? Thanks!
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« Reply #1 on: January 09, 2007, 12:55:41 pm »
Hi,

How can't you be sure mate ? ;D ..

You got a penalty five seconds before because of more than 40 degrees angle of attack ... I think that shows why ;)

Better lucky next time mate! ;D

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« Reply #2 on: January 09, 2007, 01:23:25 pm »
That is just it, I was flying at cruise, there was nothing going on, no windshear according to AS6.5.. nothing and then that happened. I do not mind copping a penalty when I am entitled of receiving one but when I've done nothing wrong I do not think it is fair
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« Reply #3 on: January 09, 2007, 02:05:59 pm »
hold on let me pass the acars for you to see it:



Ok, you got the penalty 10 for bank angle > 40 degrees ... then you got the penalty 18 and 19 that is for G factors.

What is not explained is why the altitude doesn't change much because of that AOA ? :o

In this case I'm sure it was a technical FS problem that somehow it passed that information to the FSACARS, and consequentaly, to Flight Logger.

So, CS-DLB is waiting for you at GMMZ ;)

Regards and sorry.

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« Reply #4 on: January 09, 2007, 02:07:40 pm »
Thank you very very much Bruno as I said if I really crash, I don't care... ill be sad... but I dont care but if it is unfair.... well you know, thanks heaps mate for fixing this up !!
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« Reply #5 on: January 09, 2007, 02:10:48 pm »
Owh oops when I try to book my flight it actually says I am suspended :( and the crash stil shows up in ProPilot's "Pilot Information" page
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« Reply #6 on: January 09, 2007, 03:36:26 pm »
done.

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« Reply #7 on: January 09, 2007, 06:11:09 pm »
well, when I crashed the UNHCR plane, I think I got the plane overstressed, something failed, and then I crashed into a tree, so I think aircraft overstressing can cause a crash in pp

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« Reply #8 on: January 09, 2007, 07:23:07 pm »
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well, when I crashed the UNHCR plane, I think I got the plane overstressed, something failed, and then I crashed into a tree, so I think aircraft overstressing can cause a crash in pp


Matt, next time you need to give the plane some well needed TLC!

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« Reply #9 on: January 09, 2007, 07:24:46 pm »
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well, when I crashed the UNHCR plane, I think I got the plane overstressed, something failed, and then I crashed into a tree, so I think aircraft overstressing can cause a crash in pp


Matt, next time you need to give the plane some well needed TLC!


It didn't ask me to!;D

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« Reply #10 on: January 09, 2007, 10:06:23 pm »
Hello Jay,

I am very sorry for you and I can totally understand you. As a member of the Management and as a Pilot I will believe you and your comments about your flight.
What I found out after flying over 2 years for this airline and flying ProPilot since it started, we found some mistakes with the ' angle of attacks' and speed ,..,... I am sorry that I have to tell you, that with some airplanes , strange data are sent by ACARS, which is the result of a penalty.
I am a very good pilot and I now exactly all information (speed, angle, ts,...) during my flight and sometimes I can't follow the penalty which are given.
The only thing what I can't say is , that you have to find out what kind of airplane you have certain penalty with and avoid them.
Sorry.  Bruno's comments were not what you want to here, but he can only repeat what the data are saying and the computer is always the winner :)

so don't let you take the fun to fly for EHM and I see you in the skies my friend... ;))\

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« Reply #11 on: January 09, 2007, 11:51:52 pm »
Thank you Bruno erm.... one more thing, the 1000 points that I got awarded are still there :( Sorry to be such a pain in the royal you-know-what , could you fix this too please ?
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« Reply #12 on: January 10, 2007, 12:30:03 am »
Hi,

Sorry mate, but we can't do nothing about it ...


Just kidding! Ok, it's solved out. As soon as you fill your next ProPilot PIREP you FAC will be recalculated.

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« Reply #13 on: January 10, 2007, 01:32:42 am »
It has not recalculated properly Bruno :( I still see the announcement about the crashed plane and I am now 90 FAC not in the 50-60's where I should be :(
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« Reply #14 on: January 10, 2007, 09:54:05 pm »
*bump*
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« Reply #15 on: January 11, 2007, 12:48:40 am »
What was the airplane crashed tail id ?

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« Reply #16 on: January 11, 2007, 03:18:24 am »
CS-DKQ Bruno, now I am flyin CS-DLB
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« Reply #17 on: January 12, 2007, 08:24:36 am »
Bruno? The penalty is still there ...ermmm could you please when you find the time correct it ? Thank you very much and again sorry to be a pain
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« Reply #18 on: January 12, 2007, 10:57:49 am »
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Bruno? The penalty is still there ...ermmm could you please when you find the time correct it ? Thank you very much and again sorry to be a pain


If you get a refund why can't I get one either ?

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« Reply #19 on: January 12, 2007, 11:05:07 am »
Because in my case the PP program made a serious error and gave me a penalty while nothing was happening :(
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« Reply #20 on: January 12, 2007, 11:38:06 am »
Bruno is away for the next few days due to personal reasons...Just hold on, all will be corrected soon...

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« Reply #21 on: January 12, 2007, 11:40:17 am »
Okies, not a drama in the world !
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« Reply #22 on: January 12, 2007, 03:52:37 pm »
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Because in my case the PP program made a serious error and gave me a penalty while nothing was happening :(


I know the story, it was only a joke, Jay ;)

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« Reply #23 on: January 12, 2007, 07:32:14 pm »
lol I know but I just explained it again just to make sure ;)
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« Reply #24 on: January 12, 2007, 10:06:57 pm »
does this mean we can all dispute penalties and crashes and have our FAC recalculated???
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