Don\'t Think I Can See Other Aircraft Online

[EHM-1627 Chris]

i flew in the fly in and also on 1 other occassion online.

The problem i have is that i cannot see any other traffic around, i don't know if i'm just really unlucky/lucky (depending on which way you look at it), but this is quite a problem for me when told by the ATC to wait for the traffic to pass infront of me before continuing to taxi!!

Does anyone have any ideas how i can test this out...and if so i will be much appreciated!!!

[EHM-1539 Pierre]

Maybe tonight we can test in a small airfield near 20h Zulu, if you're available.

[EHM-0654 Murray]

Obvious thing to ask is:-

Did you download/install any of the MTLv2? (The base package at the very least...)

[EHM-1627 Chris]

yeah installed all the MTL files...and just now i have uninstalled it all and then re-installed it, and still have the same problem.


I also just installed the IVAP stuff onto my dad's machine and he has the same problem!!!

the only things that are the same is:

FS Version
IVAP Version
Router (Internet Connection)


And also 1 more thing is now clear...I Know I Can't See Other Aircraft Online

[EHM-1555 Kendy]

Hello Chris,

I can help you with you problem !

A Common problem is that people HOST the multiplayer session, that's wrong, you have to JOIN the multiplayer session and you have to JOIN it before you conact to the IVAP Box !!!

Believe me, so you will be able to see other aircrafts online !


Good Luck and see you in the skies,....and if you want to switch you hub come to Amsterdam Schiphol, we always looking forward to have more online pilots at our nice, wonderful and number one online hub in the web



Bye Kendy

[EHM-0654 Murray]

You're using FS2002 (if your post to the IVAO forums is correct) so as Kendy says, you need to join IVAP's multiplayer session before you connect IVAP to the network.

Are there any FS2002 users out there that can post a "for Dummies" step-by-step guide (please) and I'll make sure it gets added to the document I am writing on this very subject.

[EHM-1555 Kendy]

Murray I am using FS2002 and with over 300 online hours I know step by step what to do.

Give me a note ....I will help you, no problem


Bye Kendy!

[EHM-1627 Chris]

what do i need to join?

[EHM-1555 Kendy]

short explanation:

- setup and create your flight
- press the fly button, so that you are sit in the cockpit (engine still off)
- go in the menue and open Multiplayer session
- enter your callsign and press JOIN !!!!!!!!!!!!!
- open your IVAP Box and press connect, after you wrote  all you datas with the same callsign
- file your flight plan and enjoy


this was only a short help if you need more let me know it !

Bye Kendy  

[EHM-1627 Chris]

the problem i have is that there is no session to join!!!

[EHM-1555 Kendy]

when everything ic correct installed FS2002, IVAP, FSCUIPC than there are 2 buttons one to HOST and one to JOIN.

Please try it again: open your FS2002 and go in the cockpit , then press on the menue (top left) button go multiplayer and only insert on the top you callsign and then on the bottom join, please try it again

[EHM-1627 Chris]

yeah there is 1 that says host and one that says join, but i cannot clikc the join one because it is greyed out.

i think it is because i havn't sellected a session.
and this is because there isn't 1 listed.

[EHM-1555 Kendy]

actually the session shows up automatic, so that you don't have to choose , or insert something!
I would recommend to deinstall your IVAP and MTL  and install the newest IVAP 0.5.6. with the MTL and the newest FSUIPC..

[EHM-1627 Chris]

yeah i did that earlier this afternoon!!!

i thought that was the problem

slthough that session thing did work on the old version of IVAP

[EHM-1627 Chris]

if it helps, when i click the ivap icon in the sys tray, all 4 of the things say connected.

if this normal?

i know that it did work with the multiplayer thing on an older version of IVAP!!!  if that helps at all

[EHM-0654 Murray]

Kendy,

Don't you need to run the IVAP Network Interface separately?

It's the thing that makes the 4 "LEDs" in the taskbar. I have a feeling that it is that that makes the MP session.

Failing that, I know that in FS2004, you have to go into the IVAP menu in FS (sat in the cockpit) and select "Start IVAP" to have it make the MP session and automatically join it. I seem to remember things are much the same in FS2002, only you have to manually join the MP session before opening the IVAP User Interface. (Trouble is, not only am I using FS2004, I also run IVAP in MultiPC mode, so I have two lots of difference...)

[EHM-1627 Chris]

i have tried following the steps in the manual and what you guys are telling me, and have no luck as yet!!!

[EHM-0654 Murray]

Chris,

Daft question - do you "see" multiplayer traffic online in the TCAS? If you aren't seeing it on either the TCAS or in FS, something major is not right.

Other thing you might want to try - run AI-Bridge before you fire up Flight Simulator (just for testing purposes) and see if the MP traffic appear then...

[EHM-1555 Kendy]

of course,

you have to start IVAP but not yet connect, then multiplayer session join and then connect IVAP.

I didn't say it because it was a short explanation .

But Chris go in FS START IVAP (till all lamps get green) then open multiplayer write callsign, session is automatically there only press join.
After this connect IVAP ;o)

[EHM-0654 Murray]

OK - from the top (for my benefit as much as Chris's, I have to get this right for the IVAP Flying Guide)

• Start the IVAP Network Interface, wait for 4 reds.
• Start Flight Simulator, set up your flight.
• "Go flying", and once you're in the cockpit, go into the IvAp menu and Start IvAp.
• Go into the File menu and Multiplayer "tab" (you know what I mean, I'm sure) and Join the IvAp multiplayer session.

Is that about the size of it? Or does the "Join MP session" happen before you "Go flying"?

[EHM-1627 Chris]

Originally posted by Murray Crane
Daft question - do you "see" multiplayer traffic online in the TCAS? If you aren't seeing it on either the TCAS or in FS, something major is not right.

Yeah I see The traffic on TCAS

Originally posted by Murray Crane
Other thing you might want to try - run AI-Bridge before you fire up Flight Simulator (just for testing purposes) and see if the MP traffic appear then...

sorry what is AI-Bridge, and what is MP traffic

Originally posted by EHM-1555
you have to start IVAP but not yet connect, then multiplayer session join and then connect IVAP.

I didn't say it because it was a short explanation .

But Chris go in FS START IVAP (till all lamps get green) then open multiplayer write callsign, session is automatically there only press join.
After this connect IVAP ;o)

Yeah tried this but still cannot see the IVAP session, and therefore cannot join.
what version of IVAP are you using Kendy?

[EHM-1627 Chris]

Originally posted by Murray Crane
OK - from the top (for my benefit as much as Chris's, I have to get this right for the IVAP Flying Guide)

• Start the IVAP Network Interface, wait for 4 reds.
• Start Flight Simulator, set up your flight.
• "Go flying", and once you're in the cockpit, go into the IvAp menu and Start IvAp.
• Go into the File menu and Multiplayer "tab" (you know what I mean, I'm sure) and Join the IvAp multiplayer session.

Is that about the size of it? Or does the "Join MP session" happen before you "Go flying"?

The problem i have with this method is that i get told the FUSIPC has duplicate copies, when i look in the modules folder there is only 1 fsuipc.dll, although other files to do with fsuipc.




ADDED LATER



OK sorted this by deleting all the other FUSIPC files, and putting in the latest FSUIPC.DLL file.

but still i have got issues with not being able to see the session.

[EHM-0654 Murray]

Originally posted by C_Blyth
Yeah I see The traffic on TCAS

That's good, it means IvAp has the traffic, so it's definitely an MP Session issue.

Originally posted by C_Blyth
sorry what is AI-Bridge, and what is MP traffic

Second one first: MultiPlayer traffic (or MultiPlayer session, as above...)

AIBridge is a little tool written by Jose Oliveira that writes the FSUIPC MP traffic tables back into Flight Simulator's MP traffic tables. As a short-term fix, you may just find this makes traffic appear. I used to use it many moons ago to ensure MP traffic showed up on the PMDG 737 GC TCAS (but this need got fixed in one of the recent IVAP updates...)

Originally posted by C_Blyth
Yeah tried this but still cannot see the IVAP session, and therefore cannot join.
what version of IVAP are you using Kendy?

Hence my post above to nail down the start/join order.

I think we can be reasonably certain that your problem is with the MP session. Once we get that nailed, traffic should pop up correctly.

[EHM-1627 Chris]

AI-Bridge says that there are no sessions, so this unfortunatly didn't help!!!

[EHM-1627 Chris]

OK guys

someone called kenny on the IVAO Forum has solved it...http://forum.ivao.org/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=15625

he said to seach for the session manually...on 127.0.0.1

and this works, now i can see the session, i should be able to see the traffic, will test in a min, and then get back to you all.  but thought i better tell you this so as you don't spend anymore time trying to work this out.

but thanks sooo much for trying to help.  what you said would have worked, but i think that the settings on our router at home don't let FS look out for severs!!!