Very Noobish question

[EHM-E4S]

I feel really stupid asking this, as i know the answer is in my head.

I used to fly with FMC alot, as I had the 737 800-900 expansion pack, and I usually buy scenery expansions, not aircraft.

This was about 1 and a half years ago. The CD of the 737 snapped. I picked it up, and didn't notice the other side was stuck, and then it snapped.

I never thought of buying it again until when i joined here, so yesterday, I saw it in a shop cut down to £9! I bought it, and have forgotten completely how the FMC works.

I've been studying about it all of today, and did that flight they give you from Hamburg to Munich, and it was a success, so I think I'll be able to get it flying by the heathrow event.

The only problem is, I fly via Isecs and VORS. In the FMC, they tell want you to tell them what the airway is in between the ISECS. I've forgotten how to do this. Can somebody please explain this?

[EHM-1617 Iain]

Head over to http://rfinder.asalink.net/free/. This generates valid real-world routes between airports, using airways. Check the RAD box to ensure that possible errors in the routes are spotted, which need to be manually checked and excluded is necessary.

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Originally posted by EHM-E4S

the 737 800-900 expansion pack

do you mean the popular PMDG model or another?

Good Luck with airways routeings

[EHM-0654 Murray]

Umm... Haven't used the PMDG FMC in a while, but...

The PSS 777 insists on the airways being entered separately from the endpoints (so UZ16 on the left, MTL on the right), but the Project Magenta FMC allows the entry of both at the same time (enter UZ16.MTL and put it on the left, it fills the right correctly)

Try the PM method to see if it works, if not it just "doubles up" on the entries is all...

[EHM-E4S]

It is the PMDG 737

Thanks guys!

The routefinder is brilliant!

I'm afraid murray it doesn't seem to work that way. Stupid different FMC's! but thanks for the suggestion!

[EHM-1001 Robert]

In the PMDG FMCs you need to enter the waypoint (NAV, NDB or fix, or intersection) to the right side of the list, and the rjetway sign to the left side.

If you put a waypoint first, on the left side the DIRECT sign will appear, but that can be a very zig-zag route sometime . If you know the jetway number, you can put it 1st, or after the waypoint it does not matter. If the FMC finds a connection between the last and next waypoint on the given jetway, it will make the route nicely. It can connect even VOR radios on the same jetway with 5-6 intersections between them, only by putting the 2 VOR stations, and the connecting jetway number to the plan.

[EHM-E4S]

Thanks Robert!

I don't like those DIRECT ones. I just tried a flight in the PMDG (now I wish I never got into this considering the flight is tomorrow! I'll just need to practice today) and it was very weird. I didn't get to the airport very well.

[EHM-1001 Robert]

Sounds interesting...why you could not???

BTW, if you want to add the Hungarian version to your banner, then: "EuroHarmónia, a világ legjobb virtuális légitársasága"

[EHM-E4S]

I ended up right on top of the airport, and it ruined my approach, but I'll try to find ways around that

Thanks for the hungarian version! The only word I could make out of that is the Virtualis!

[EHM-1001 Robert]

It is best to finish the route on a VOR station, or an intersection that is around 50nm from the airport, better if it is the STAR starting point. You will know you are close to the airport when there is not more waypoints between you and the airport

but it is simple !

világ: world
legjobb: best
virtuális: virtual
légitársasága: airline of

[EHM-E4S]

ok! Thanks for the help!

I can see how the sentance works. since of and airline are in the same word, is it one of those words where asága is "of" and légitárs is "airline" and because of the a at the beggining of asága, the first word can connect? or am i just plain crazy?

[EHM-1001 Robert]

totally off-topic, so...lets see some Hungarian grammar then:

"légitársasága"  is the word. It is made of 3 parts:

1. "légi" made of "lég" air + "i" means together ~aerial
2. "társaság" means simply company
1+2 is simply airline
3.  "-a" in this context means of. But in Hungarian we do not use prepositions, we use past-positions or additions to the words, that form its meaning inside the sentence.

1+2+3: meaning is airline of. Also you can see the word order is opposite of English.

To go further if you say: EuroHarmony is the best airline in the world and not of the world then in Hungarian you say: "EHM a legjobb légitársaság a világon". You can see, the "légitársaság" became simple word, while the "világ" changed to "világon" according to: in the world.

That is all folks See ya at the next lesson.

[EHM-0654 Murray]

In an FMC controlled airplane, the trick is to allow for STAR and approach - and arrivals to Heathrow are universally difficult with an FMC (I'm probably going to hand-fly after BIG VOR for instance...) Using BIG3B as an example:

Try to use the FMC for the STAR (DEP/ARR key), that way, if you're very lucky, you'll have the descent restrictions with plenty of time (plan for FL150 by TIGER intersection, expect FL70 leaving BIG...) and with just a smidgeon more luck you'll get the speed restrictions too (250kts 3mins or 12miles inbound BIG, 220kts in the holds, 220kts or less after BIG)

Finally, if you've got "real-world" AIRAC data for the PMDG (if you haven't DO NOT go looking for it now...) you may well have the STAR, but not the arrival (the PM NAVDATA has STAR but no arrival) so you'll want to MCP/hand fly everything after BIG. If the IVAO-GB team on the night are on the button (and I fully expect them to be) you will be vectored from BIG to the ILS either in the dog-leg out to the west for RWY 9s or the big S over my house to the east for RWY 27s (I live in Croydon, and I get to see so many big jets when the 27s are in use like they are at present...)