Author Topic: Steering Problems (Read 12899 times)

EHM-1980 Brian · « **on:** October 03, 2006, 10:38:17 am »

hi guys - need your help ( again! ) - when i'm travelling down the runway to take off my ATR 42 keeps veering to the left making it a struggle to keep the plane in a straight line for a good take-off!! I dont have this problem with any other plane i have flown so far ( Beechcraft / Sukhoi / Dornier ) - is this a common problem with the ATR or am i doing something wrong?? i have checked the trim, rudder etc... so its not that! Anyone have any idea? :[ and also when i'm up in the air it doesnt effect the steering up there...... its only when i'm on the ground??

EHM-1651 Christian · « **Reply #1 on:** October 03, 2006, 10:45:40 am »

Do you have rudder on your joystick or are you using autorudder??

EHM-1980 Brian · « **Reply #2 on:** October 03, 2006, 11:04:44 am »

using auto rudder i think?

EHM-1671 Ben · « **Reply #3 on:** October 03, 2006, 11:10:20 am »

I can't remember having this problem, but then again I've disabled my auto rudder so that might have been the cause of it. Maybe you could disable it and give it a try from there?

EHM-1651 Christian · « **Reply #4 on:** October 03, 2006, 11:11:18 am »

Hmm, have you calibrated you joystick it might be that, but you can also try to reduce the sensitivity setting....

EHM-1980 Brian · « **Reply #5 on:** October 03, 2006, 11:12:27 am »

sorry being really stupid here but 1) how do you disable auto-rudder and 2) what does auto-rudder actually do and what would i have to do differently to fly without auto-rudder on??

EHM-1651 Christian · « **Reply #6 on:** October 03, 2006, 11:19:09 am »

Wellthe autorudder is when dno't have separate rudder controller it allows you to steer the nosewheel on ground using the joystick and autocontrols the rudder during flight when you otherwise would have used the rudder to adjust during turns.

EHM-0654 Murray · « **Reply #7 on:** October 03, 2006, 07:48:54 pm »

Obvious thing to suggest/check regarding veering during takeoff, on multi-engine prop aircraft especially; ensure that the mixture/prop/throttle handles are syncronised, and that the throttle handles move together during throttle up. Can't offer specifics as I have a six axis throttle quadrant.

EHM-1651 Christian · « **Reply #8 on:** October 03, 2006, 09:25:21 pm »

This happened only once or several times??

EHM-1980 Brian · « **Reply #9 on:** October 04, 2006, 12:34:47 am »

twice but only with the ATR ( which i've just crashed by the way using pro pilot - i'm so angry at myself!! ) - how long do you get suspended for..... please be gentle!

EHM-1703 Philip · « **Reply #10 on:** October 04, 2006, 01:25:37 am »

Brian, regarding your ProPilot crash, I have emailed you.

EHM-1980 Brian · « **Reply #11 on:** October 04, 2006, 01:29:13 am »

ok phil thanks i will have a look now....

EHM-1001 Robert · « **Reply #12 on:** November 12, 2006, 02:35:33 pm »

Hi Brian,

as I passed Class 4 in editing the flight dynamics, I realized that effect appears on all of the Turboprops ! I heard that this is a known effect on single-engine airplanes, and is caused by the so-called "P-effect". You can edit its strength in the reality settings of the game.

Funny thing is, it seems the game cannot recognize double engine turboprops, where the engines are rotating symmetrically to compensate any nasty torques.

I hope that helps.

EHM-1883 Matt · « **Reply #13 on:** November 12, 2006, 05:54:45 pm »

I have rudder Pedals myself, and every single take-off I do, it always moves a bit to the left. It is also very annoying for me, but if you do have rudder pedals, you have to do it very gently.

EHM-1555 Kendy · « **Reply #14 on:** November 12, 2006, 10:18:41 pm »

LOL yes Robert is right, the rotation of the propellers makes this effect,....

believe me, when I flew my first prop in real life it was kind of hard to find a feeling to push with your right food so gentle, that airplane rolls straight .
After some takeoff it was easy.

mircrosoft did a good job to put this real effect in the simulator

best,
kendy

P.S by the way, you should have seen my first taxiing , curve, curve (Cessna 172, Manassas KHEF airport 10/ 2002.......in this case fl;ight simulator is much easier than in real life ( and everyone has to start with a small airplane where you have to use you rudder, later on in a big jet you have a taxi wheel :>

EHM-1980 Brian · « **Reply #15 on:** November 13, 2006, 07:30:01 pm »

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Originally posted by EHM-1001 Robert
Hi Brian,

as I passed Class 4 in editing the flight dynamics, I realized that effect appears on all of the Turboprops !

funny you say that Robert as i was having a few problems with the other propeller aircraft i have been using lately 2!

but as you said i'll try changing a few settings here and there and see how i get on - thanks for your response guys

EHM-1652 Doug · « **Reply #16 on:** November 26, 2006, 11:25:17 pm »

Brian:

Just another thought to this thread- make sure you shut down background progammes before you fire up FS9. Also check your system for spyware, programmes like: Windows Defender: Spybot: Adaware Personal are all free and help keep your system clean. If you've picked up some spyware it can affect FS9. A simple Google search - will bring you download links for all of the above programmes.

Good luck ,

Doug Ross
EHM1652 :>

EHM-1001 Robert · « **Reply #17 on:** November 27, 2006, 07:25:26 am »

Huhh, I would never imagine that.

Do they really cause affect FS ?

EHM-1652 Doug · « **Reply #18 on:** November 27, 2006, 08:20:40 am »

Robert:

For sure and it's pretty well a silent issue - spyware cookies are less of a problem - though they are quietly gathering data on your system. The real issue is the spyware programmes - which are silently running in the background, gathering information on your surfing habits - e-mail etc. then sending the information to wherever/whoever has caused the spyware programme to be on your machine.

The spyware problem usually effects ILS approaches - landing short - left/right of runway. But I've personally been there and had the take off roll problem too - ran the detection programme - killed the spyware and FS9 then worked as advertised.

It may not be the answer to Brian's problem - and it could just be torque - but I simply offer the spyware issue as one to be considered!;)

EHM-2089 Vincent · « **Reply #19 on:** April 20, 2007, 07:29:36 am »

Well I have problems with single engined planes, but the ATR has been a good plane to me - both the 42 and 72 versions. The only thing I can think of is to also check if the engines are running at the same speed. Have a look at the throttle positions of the levers by getting up the required panel.

If not then press E and then quickly press 1 2 so that both the engines are selected, on turning you could also use differential brakes, F11 for left wheel brakes useless for left hand turns and F12 for right wheel brake, useful for RH turns.

Autorudder should not be a problem either for this on the ground. Also if playing with the keyboard press the 5 key to centre the controls, rather than using 0 and . to turn the planes, centre the plane once in a while before turning the other direction.

These are some things that I do, so thought of putting it down here too...:>

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