Concorde problems!

[EHM-1873 Pedro]

Hi,

I'm having some problems flying EHM's Concorde and I hope you can help me. I've downloaded this beautiful bird from the fleet page together with FS9 latest flight dynamics. But when I tried flying with her, she started spinning around in circles and I  couldn't even get to 10,000ft ! So, I installed FS2002 flight dynamics instead of the newest ones. It worked just fine, but when I reached cruise speed and altitude, it didn't look like she was going in level flight! She had at least 5º-7º nose-up attitude! Is this normal, or am I doing something wrong :% ? I double checked everything in the flight systems, starting with the center of gravity, and nothing appears to be wrong:[...

Thanks for your help,

[EHM-1001 Robert]

Hi Pedro,

well, the FS2004 flight dynamics was designed so the airplane reaches FL520 and M2.0 in FS2004. Because with the FS2002 dynamics it is unable to do: as you described.

How is it spinning, around which axis ? Maybe you applied trim on a wrong axis ?

[EHM-1821 Javier]

I had that problem with the concorde too, soon after takeoff, it would yaw to the left despite its control surfaces being neutral..

[EHM-1873 Pedro]

Originally posted by EHM-1821 Javier
I had that problem with the concorde too, soon after takeoff, it would yaw to the left despite its control surfaces being neutral..

It's exactly like that. The control surfaces on the airplane were neutral and it would still spin like Javier describes...

[EHM-1001 Robert]

Incredible...I hate these bugs :s

[EHM-1873 Pedro]

Is there anything I can do to solve this problem?
It's such a fine bird...:[

[EHM-1001 Robert]

Try to use the FS2002 version AIR file only, and lets see if it helps you. Then we can localize the bug source

[EHM-1873 Pedro]

Originally posted by EHM-1001 Robert
Try to use the FS2002 version AIR file only, and lets see if it helps you. Then we can localize the bug source

Together with FS2004 aircraft.cfg file, right?

[EHM-1001 Robert]

Yes, exactly. But make sure the CFG calls the proper AIR filename. You can check it in the CFG under the "sim=..." line.

[EHM-1873 Pedro]

I tried it just now with this new configuration and the airplane stopped spinning!:>
But it still seems like it isn't going in level flight and the engine thrust didn't seem enough to keep the plane at Mach 2.00 and FL550...
By the way, the "sim=..." line in aircraft.cfg file reads "sim=concorde". Is this the correct filename?

[EHM-1001 Robert]

If your AIR filename is also concorde, then it is okay. At least we know that the AIR file contains some bug at you...

[EHM-1465 Dominic]

Just seen this thread and as a real Concorde aficionado I thought I'd better see if I could help...

I had a look on Avsim and there are some flight dynamics by Pedro Oliveira there with filename "pjcofd21.zip"

http://library.avsim.net/download.php?DLID=47909

I'm not sure if these are the same as the ones Robert's using but they appear to be from a later date than the ones you can download from the site here (or from the FSFrance site)... However Robert's ones are shown as version 2.7 and these are 2.1 so the date may be misleading...

Might be worth trying these just to see if they correct the strange flight behaviour as they ought to allow you to reach proper speed and altitude and are for FS2004...

I've certainly not come across this spinning behaviour myself so I hope you can resolve the problem