Flogger problems

[EHM-1838 Andrew]

I have recently completed three flights,and on each occasion i have not been able to pirep with flogger.For instance tonight i completed flight 9032 from eddf to essa and again i had problems with flogger.It seemed to show the recorded start time and finish time as the same ie no flight recorded.This is VERY frustarting i have completed over ten hours of flight time and have been credited with no hours.
Should i uninstall present flogger and try reinstalling it?
The whole idea of using Flogger was to do away with fiddling about with pen and paper,but it dosnt always seem reliable.
cheers Andy

[EHM-2029 Sotiris]

Just a quick simple point in case it is what is happening to you.
If you turn your engines off after you turn them on for the first time (i.e. switching your aircraft, resetting your flight or just turning them on and off) make the logger stop logging further.
I believe it also happens if as you take-off you touchdoen briefly before continuing with your take-off.

In both cases you may have problems. Otherwise you need to ask the 'wise men' for your problems.

[EHM-1703 Philip]

Andrew,

I know you are frustrated but I am not aware of any problems like this so please bare with us, this is a new problem that seems unique to you and your system.

OK, you have not wasted the hours, file them manually while we try and sort the problem out....

Next, please can you give me a little detail about the flights.... flight Number, Departure, Destination and Aircraft as well as any other details you can tell me.

As Sotiris says, this problem could be to do with you starting the flogger with the engines running or taxiing too fast, please can you give us a brief rundown of how you start the flogger and your flight.

We will try and solve this for you as fast as we can although I am still at work and Bruno is away for a while so it make take a while.

[EHM-1838 Andrew]

Originally posted by EHM-2029 Sotiris
Just a quick simple point in case it is what is happening to you.
If you turn your engines off after you turn them on for the first time (i.e. switching your aircraft, resetting your flight or just turning them on and off) make the logger stop logging further.
I believe it also happens if as you take-off you touchdoen briefly before continuing with your take-off.

In both cases you may have problems. Otherwise you need to ask the 'wise men' for your problems.

AH HA!Now this rings a bell.I think i had this problem before.When taking off in the 747 for instance to try to avoid those horrible POSKY effects when you bang your tail on takoff i would probably try to climb at too shallow an angle and briefly touch down again thus causing a failure in flogger .
I know there is probably nothing wrong with FLOG and its probably my fault.Apologies to all for being grim and horrid.
cheers Andy

[EHM-1703 Philip]

np mate, just let us know if this is an ongoing problem so we can try to solve it. If the POSKY is giving you trouble and you love the heavy metal, have a look around on EBAY for a boxed copy of QOS, (PMDG 744) I saw one go for 12 quid the other week... Well worth it if you ask me!

[EHM-1838 Andrew]

Thanks Phil
Actually i like the POSKY aircraft(Freeware of course) i have loads of there most recent 737/700s .There will come a time when i feel its time to start moving up to things even more realistic like perhaps PMDG aircraft,but i believe they require quite a steep learning curve.Actually two of the panels for the new Eurocargo fleet(146 and A310) look quite brain stretching and will require my printer to be dusted of so i c an study the (LONG)manuals in detail.
cheers Andy
PS on my next flogger flight i will check after takeoff to see if flogger is still logging.

[EHM-2110 Matt]

Andrew,

Defineately could be the problem.  I often find FLogger quite tempremental about when it decides it should start logging and the like so i end up filing manually alot of the time!

And i know its off topic but it gives me a penalty for releasing park brakes without engines on yet the pushback sequence in the level-d 767 demands it... any ideas?

[EHM-0654 Murray]

Matt,

Reasonably sure you've got that back to front - the only engine/brakes penalty in the current FLogger is starting engines without parking brakes set (Bruno/Avat, right or wrong?)

[EHM-2110 Matt]

Sorry Murray thats what i mean...

The ground crew in the level-d makes you release brakes for pushback and then start-up while pushing back and brakes off so get penalty.  I know i could wait until p/b is complete and brakes are back on but i like to try and get away quickly!

[EHM-2143 Tommi]

Hi im new at Euroharmony and its my first VA ever.
Its nice to be with you and i hate to have my first post here conserning problem, but ill hope i get over them fast.

So i flew my first flight in Propilot and took light EGJJ-EGLL, first time i didnt choose the flight from flight table and after flight i noticed it didnt log anything :]
But second time i did it correct and at the end of flight it stopped the log.
Everything was correct. Then i choose to save pirep before submitting, just to be sure that if i get it wrong there is saved log at least... well pressed "save pirep", then it gave some error (what i dont remember it was", pressed ok with the error and the whole program shut down. I started it again and the log wasnt there anymore, looked at save folder and nothing there either :s

Ill try again soon but would like to know if anyone has had same problem, thanks.

[EHM-2029 Sotiris]

Hi Tommi and welcome,

sorry mate haven't had this problem before and it hasn't happened to anyone that I am aware of. Perhaps it just a coincidence and bad luck. Can you try a very quick local flight (NOT propilot) and see if it registers everything OK? If it doesn't than make sure you keep note of the error message.

This way the wizards will be better positioned to help you out.

[EHM-1703 Philip]

Tommi.

When flying on ProPilot you must remember to press the ProPilot button on the flightlogger. Also you can not save pireps for later submission with ProPilot as the logger has an open connection to the EHM server during the flight, you have to submit them right away. Sorry you had these troubles but ProPilot is a complicated system with a lot of rules and they are breifly.

1) You must use the flight Logger
2) You must be connected to the Internet for the duration of the flight
3) You must file the pirep immediately after shutting down your engines.
4) You Must not Crash!

Let us know if you have any more troubles or if you want some further instruction before trying again.

Good luck

[EHM-2143 Tommi]

Originally posted by EHM-1703 Philip
Also you can not save pireps for later submission with ProPilot as the logger has an open connection to the EHM server during the flight, you have to submit them right away.

3) You must file the pirep immediately after shutting down your engines.

Ok this solves it i think !
I tryed to save it for safekeeping if submitting doesnt go well, but ill go out to try submit it immediatly.
Thanks!

[EHM-2029 Sotiris]

Tommi,

even when flying ProPilot I never had problems saving my PiRep. And I used to do a lot of this as some other guys had problems with network disconnection.
However, everytime I saved the PiRep I also submitted it immediately after as well.

Wish you all the best mate.

[EHM-2143 Tommi]

Ok thanks for everyone for the help !
I submitted PIREP immediatly after flight and it worked like a charm, great system, i love it :8
Cheers!