Timetable pop-up\'s.... a necessity ?

[EHM-1123 Dejan]

Hi guys,
I was just browsing through class1 flights (been a long time), and found some popups appearing on a certain time interval.. Nice idea, but functionality....

They are too small, they are wrong on initial load, (I got Skopje, then Belgrade... Lugano then Zurich). When I close them, they appear again in, say 10 secs...

I am sure it's just technicality and do not intend to criticize anyone, only wanted to report.. If it's already known issue, then no harm done.:]

[EHM-1199 Philip]

My problem is they produce an error popup as well in my browser. A 'line 21 null' something or other and that is really frustrating. Move the mouse the wrong way and I've got half a dozen error messages to close down.
Anybody know why this is or have the same problems?

[EHM-1077 Emanuele]

Dejan, Plymyphil,

I wrote the pop-up script and it (one) appears
when you pass your mouse over one of the
ICAO code in the result page of a flight search,
providing information about the airport.

Plymyphil:
I had at least one other person mentioning
an actual error in the popup but I even if I
asked I haven't received further information
about it, especially the complete error
message that you mention as "line 21 null"
something.

That -something- is possibly what would a
allow to reproduce and debug the problem.
If it happens again, please click on the popup
window and then press Ctrl-C. It will store
the message in memory. Then, just paste
it somewhere (Ctrl-V) and make sure to
send it to me.

Dejan:
What do you mean they are too small?
Is it the font that is too small to read or
is it the window that is too small for the font?

The content of the popup is not wrong,
but the script behind it needs to query
a database and it is not an instantaneous
operation. This means that there might
be a short delay (few seconds, not more)
between the time you place the mouse
cursor over an ICAO code and the time
the airport informations appear.

For both:
the fact that in a specific circumstance
many popup appear is a known issue.
It happens when you sweep your
mouse over many ICAO codes before
the first popup appear. If you place
your mouse over one ICAO code and
wait a few instants for the popup to
appear, you'll then be able to sweep
as fast as you want over the others
but have only that first popup visible
at any given time.

The alternative to this would be to
have a popup appear only if you
click over the ICAO code.

Such change is technically pretty easy
but as it's a matter of taste I'd like the
opinion of more people.

Thanks for reporting this.
Please send me the information I just
requested to improve/debug this feature.

Ciao ciao!

Manu

[EHM-1152 Thomas]

I think that it is a great feature which I find very useful.  But when you move the mouse across the screen it is very easy to open a window that you don't want.
Therefore clicking on the ICAO would probably be the better option.

[EHM-1199 Philip]

Manu - the error message is:

'A Runtime Error has occurred.
Do you wish to debug?

Line: 21
Error: 'NULL' is undefined'

Hope this helps.
This message also appears elsewhere on the site, for example having entered my pilot number and password on the homepage and clicked login I get this message before my pilot information page appears.

I like the feature of getting information about the airports and don't much mind it coming instantly or after a click. It would be great to see the end of the error messages though although even they are not too intrusive, just a nuisance if more than one appears quickly in succession.

[EHM-1034 Kris]

I would also like the small windows to be opened by clicking on the ICAO-code, instead of just moving the mouse over them. Not that this system is bad, but I think that the click-option is more user-friendly.

[EHM-0641 Rico]

Originally posted by Plymyphil
My problem is they produce an error popup as well in my browser. A 'line 21 null' something or other and that is really frustrating. Move the mouse the wrong way and I've got half a dozen error messages to close down.
Anybody know why this is or have the same problems?

[EHM-0641 Rico]

Originally posted by Plymyphil
Manu - the error message is:

'A Runtime Error has occurred.
Do you wish to debug?

Line: 21
Error: 'NULL' is undefined'

This message also appears elsewhere on the site, for example having entered my pilot number and password on the homepage and clicked login I get this message before my pilot information page appears.

[EHM-0005 Maarten]

People who have Visual Basic installed will have a similar message as Plymyphil. Otherwise you'll only see a small error message in the status bar of your browser.

[EHM-0962 Zhen Yi]

Yeah i agree, clicking would be better or the pop ups can become quite annoying especially when i move my cursor over to click on the back button and the pop ups appear

[EHM-1123 Dejan]

Hey Manu, font size is good, only the window is too small for it.... at least in my case.

And I can agree with others, that it should be substituted with 'onclick' event. If it's easy as you say.

Cheers

[EHM-1077 Emanuele]

Hello everybody!

1) I just changed the script and the popup now
appears only if you click on it.
One minor disadvantage that I just noticed
is that when you click again on another ICAO
code, the popup will disappear under the
main window, unless of course the two are
not overlapping.

2) The issue with the font size/window
size is a tricky one because it's dependent
on the browser settings. I.e. on my PC
both Netscape and Explorer do not present
this problem and the text is well positioned
in and all included in the window.
I'll have to investigate if I can detect or
override your settings.

3) The Visual Basic issue Maarten mentioned
is also new to me, but as he didn't provide
a workaround it might not be of easy solution.
I'll do some research on the matter.

Ciao ciao!

Manu

[EHM-1199 Philip]

Originally posted by manu3d
3) The Visual Basic issue Maarten mentioned
is also new to me, but as he didn't provide
a workaround it might not be of easy solution.
I'll do some research on the matter.
Manu

If there is a setting I can change on my PC/browser to stop it just let me know Manu. Appreciate the work you are doing - this really is a superb site.
Phil

[EHM-1123 Dejan]

Yep, thanks Manu for taking time, and good luck on fixing it.

[EHM-0654 Murray]

Originally posted by Dejan Ivanovic
Yep, thanks Manu for taking time, and good luck on fixing it.

Use a browser other than IE
 
I was totally unaware of this new feature, because as a Mozilla Firefox user, I benefit from having silent popup blocking.

Manu, after reading this thread I took a look at the timetable pages using IE and I think this is a great feature; which could only be improved if it was click to view (and worked in Firefox! I turned popups on for the EuroHarmony page but they still didn't work )

[EHM-1077 Emanuele]

Are you saying that it doesn't work clicking on it?
Because that's what I said in a post a earlier:
I changed it to popup onclick instead of onmouseover.

Let me try with my Mozilla... yep, it popup if you
click on it. The only difference with a normal link
is that as it use an HTML event to trigger a script,
it doesn't change the shape of the cursor.

Ciao ciao!

Manu

[EHM-0654 Murray]

Originally posted by manu3d
Are you saying that it doesn't work clicking on it?
Because that's what I said in a post a earlier:
I changed it to popup onclick instead of onmouseover.

Let me try with my Mozilla... yep, it popup if you
click on it. The only difference with a normal link
is that as it use an HTML event to trigger a script,
it doesn't change the shape of the cursor.

Ciao ciao!

Manu

Mea Culpa. I tested it at the beginning of the week (when this thread got interesting but before you changed it) and it wasn't working at all in Firefox.

I have just this second tried it and it works as I wanted ()

And re: font sizes - font is too big per default on both my work desktop and my laptop. Using the old CTRL+mouse wheel trick to resize the window works well enough though...

[EHM-1077 Emanuele]

I'd kindly ask you to do an experiment
for me Murray.

Can you please take a screenshot of the
popup -and- your browser on the
Search Result page and post it here?

Do not post the whole thing, crop it in
a way that only the popup and the
Search Result table are visible. I'd like
to see how you see it normally.

Thank you.

Manu

[EHM-0654 Murray]

Originally posted by manu3d
Can you please take a screenshot of the
popup -and- your browser on the
Search Result page and post it here?

NP mate...



For information purposes, the results show all class 1 EuroHarmony flights departing EGLL on any day.  As you can see, the font is appreciably too large, but like I say, CTRL+<mouse wheel> text resizing fixes it in moments...

[EHM-0962 Zhen Yi]

!!! Looks like i'm even worst off! i never realised that there were other things down there.......i can only see the top line that says the airport(city?) name!

[EHM-1123 Dejan]

I have the same result as Murray there, and use ctrl>wheel also.
Manu, could the pop-up size be enlarged a bit, 50 pix more should do, or make it a square shaped

[EHM-0962 Zhen Yi]

it appears to have been corrected already.......for me at least......it now appears very nicely at the top left of the screen

[EHM-1077 Emanuele]

Strange! I didn't change anything yet in the
font size!!!

I'll have to think about this one... on my
computer all the information fits very nicely
in the window! =(

Again, thanks for reporting the problem,
I'll see what I can do.

Ciao ciao!

Manu

[EHM-0962 Zhen Yi]

yes i my case the font size hasn't changed but the window size certainly has.......it fits perfectly now

[EHM-1077 Emanuele]

Originally posted by Plymyphil
'A Runtime Error has occurred.
Do you wish to debug?

Line: 21
Error: 'NULL' is undefined'

This problem should have been solved now.
Plymyphil, can you confirm?

Manu